Another 2 points dropped, goodness me.. Just leave amicably, what a disgrace this season is proving out to be, nothings going to change even if we splash out the money on defenders.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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I am pretty sure it is intentional. Other managers lose squads/players/down tools but it's never to the degree that Mourinho manages to do it. Even Conte managed to get a trophy on his way out at Chelsea, while Mourinho had them in 17th.
In that case we shouldn't have sacked Moyes or LVG. They had nothing to with it because it's all the board and players
You're on the wind up surely? Like this is a joke account or something?
Ha, it does feel that way. I'll be mid 30s by then....
Stop calling out citizens of Rectumville, no time for replies, they have to catch JM before he leaves a stadium.
Changing my vote to 'No' after this gained point and position on the table.
Whoa. I know we are Manchester United but that's a really high standard to expect...
No doubt is it safe to go into United forum is in full flow now. Gushing over a clean sheet.
It's looking to me like he will leave us in a worse state than when he took over.
We were 5th the year before he joined, missing out on the top 4 on goal difference, but winning the FA cup, with one of the youngest teams in the league and a much lower wager bill.
I can't see us getting that close to CL qualification this year nor can I see us winning a trophy. He has significantly increased the age of our team and our wage bill. Key players like De Gea and Martial are in no rush to extend their contacts whilst the likes of Matic and Sanchez will use us as their retirement home.
We were 5th the year before he joined, missing out on the top 4 on goal difference, but winning the FA cup, with one of the youngest teams in the league and a much lower wager bill.
I can't see us getting that close to CL qualification this year nor can I see us winning a trophy. He has significantly increased the age of our team and our wage bill. Key players like De Gea and Martial are in no rush to extend their contacts whilst the likes of Matic and Sanchez will use us as their retirement home.
I actually thought the logical thing would be for him to learn from those experiences as he had another opportunity at our club. Can't believe he didn't adapt.
I started feeling he hadn't changed from the Sevilla debacle. We should have sacked him then.
He's a slave to his narcissism. I never paid too much attention to him before, just thought he was arrogant, but it's deeper than that.
Still no attacking pattern of play, even Palace kept the ball better and more comfortable than us. He needs to go.
It's all rather pointless. At the end of the day Glazers will still be the owners and Woodward will still be our DOF.
Hopelessness.
Hopelessness.
Great name, sort of fits in with your decision to post this.
We’ve looked a worse team against basically everyone we’ve played. I’m not having that no matter how mad you think our players are, that Palace, Derby, West Ham and the rest all have better squads than us. Your man doesn’t have a clue how to set up a decent attacking unit.
The funny thing is that with Moyes and LVG you could see that the team was coached, you could see patterns. It wasn't good enough, in the case of Moyes it was often bad but you couldn't question that they were working behind the scene. With Mourinho, it looks like the players only meet on match day. It's just weird.
My word, please tell me you're on the windup
the fact that this poll is only 69% in favour of sacking him surprises me more than the performances these days. 14 points from the top and 14 points from the bottom. Mid table Manchester United.
Not sure I'm with you there, chief.
Wrong. A factually incorrect. Still don't know you've made it on here.
What are you actually even saying?
Maybe the newbie system needs to be looked at again.
We should have sacked Woodward before sacking any of them, agreed.
Moyes and Van Gaal were never the biggest issues, just like Mourinho isn't now.
The owners and board are the worst by far.
The players are 2nd and are by product of the incompetence of the first one.
The managers have all struggled to produce with the above two factors.
I hope to see next generation on Man Utd players. Maybe I will come back in 10 years time.
Pogba - not good enough
Lukaku - not too enough
Rashford - not improving
Lingard - obviously never Utd standard
Sanchez - a shadow of a former player
Young - pass it
Rojo - always injure
Darmine - why is he still here?
Mata - good fellow but not suitable
Valencia - no longer can cross
Martial - doesn't want to be here
Smalling - underperform
Bailly - shaky
Matic - static and slow
What a squad!
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Pogba - not good enough
Lukaku - not too enough
Rashford - not improving
Lingard - obviously never Utd standard
Sanchez - a shadow of a former player
Young - pass it
Rojo - always injure
Darmine - why is he still here?
Mata - good fellow but not suitable
Valencia - no longer can cross
Martial - doesn't want to be here
Smalling - underperform
Bailly - shaky
Matic - static and slow
What a squad!
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At this point I am not even sure if it's 2 points dropped or 1 point won.
A has-been who should quit if Ed does not have the bollocks to sack him
If I had to pick a single reason is Jose's acceptance of low standards. Matic and Lukaku's performances being a case in point
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If I had to pick a single reason is Jose's acceptance of low standards. Matic and Lukaku's performances being a case in point
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David Moyes Awful Season:
13 games
6 wins
4 draws
3 losses
22 points
+5 goal difference
LVG Awful Season:
13 games
8 wins
3 draws
2 losses
27 points
+10 goal difference
Jose This Season:
13 games
6 wins
3 draws
4 losses
21 points
-1 goal difference
Bad, very bad.
If LVG and Moyes are to go by, the worst hasn't even come yet. It was the December fixtures that killed Van Gaal. With the number of games and fixtures in December, it can go really bad really quickly without having a chance to recover.
Van Gaal actually managed to recover in the second half of the season (think only Leicester got more points than us after Christmas), but December was brutal.
I think the sponsors should start putting some pressure on. That might be the only way he's sacked. Week after week he's just making us look like shit. Why would you want your product associated with that?
Come on Ed you big baby
Come on Ed you big baby
It about money for the Glazzers.
Think they are just biding their time.
He will be gone this season end I think.
Then they will pull the plug.
Saudis probably.
The sad thing is we have begun to expect what we see.
I’m struggling to see how Mourinho keeps his job now.
Since being Manager of the club, with the 2nd highest wage bill in Europe, having spent 400 million under his tenure, he finds his team 1 point above Bournemouth, who have a game in hand.
People bemoan the board for not spending in the summer, but that’s not the issue. The issue is they don’t trust him with their money anymore, and he’s once again demonstrated he’s a quick fix it manager, who is damn good at it, but in terms of building teams for the long haul, he struggles. They should have got rid in the summer if they didn’t trust him.
I’m not complaining, but find it curious how a club the size of UTD continue to allow it. Real, Barca and Bayern certainly wouldn’t.
Since being Manager of the club, with the 2nd highest wage bill in Europe, having spent 400 million under his tenure, he finds his team 1 point above Bournemouth, who have a game in hand.
People bemoan the board for not spending in the summer, but that’s not the issue. The issue is they don’t trust him with their money anymore, and he’s once again demonstrated he’s a quick fix it manager, who is damn good at it, but in terms of building teams for the long haul, he struggles. They should have got rid in the summer if they didn’t trust him.
I’m not complaining, but find it curious how a club the size of UTD continue to allow it. Real, Barca and Bayern certainly wouldn’t.
Needs to go. Dropping too many points against teams we should beating.
And LVG had numerous injuries in December as well. Imagine if that happened to Jose...
I say it time and time again, you're going to be in for a shock when a new manager comes.
No it isn’t. He said that PALACE defend compact with two lines of four.
He’s doing a terrible job and will be sacked at the end of the season, he may even equal Moyes’ 7th place finish or worse. In the meantime just got to put up with dross and hope there will be a better plan and though process when repalacing him.
I changed my vote back a couple of weeks ago, but was already starting to change my mind before this game. Particularly with Sanchez going to the international team and scoring in 2 games. I know one was easy, but still it just reminded me again of how little Mourinho is getting out of our players.
The negative football is frustrating and draw to Crystal Palace is another reason to go. Seriously we are woeful.
The negative football is frustrating and draw to Crystal Palace is another reason to go. Seriously we are woeful.
He's probably one of the mods on a windup.
If I recall correctly it was largely defensive injuries, to the point where I'm sure there was multiple games where our backline was made up of youth players.
Ah yes. Jose with the City players would attempt to control possession for 70% of the match
. Never in a million years. The controlling of the ball, the passing it quickly and accurately comes from our tactics and City are better not purely because they have better players, but they have a manager who tactically coaches their team to do just that.To this day I remember the whole CAF laughing about John Stones. Now no one bats an eye lid watching him play for Manchester city
The players whether good or bad need to be played in a systemic way and Jose is never the best manager to get a team to play a controlled, accurate and quick type of football that aims to control a match. the importatnt word being Control. Jose has no intent to control the match, therefore has minimal tactical input in controlling his players role within a game.
Therefor Jose's short term success is usually built around finding individualistic jose style footballers that can pull a rabbit out of the hat alongside each other rather than played as a well drilled team consistently for more than 2 years.
A club the size of Real, Barca and Bayern aren't held back by penny pinching owners who take money out of the club.
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