AN17
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Surely Woody can manage that 15 million payout with some official buttplug sponsorship or something like that..
That would be a stupid thing to do since he wouldn’t get his payoff.
Jose stands to pocket around £15 million should he get sacked right now. Such a sum of money is not to be sniffed at by any means, can hardly blame him for hanging around to be fair.
Mourinho is a symptom of bigger issues that still haven't been resolved.
United were run like an old fashioned club up to Ferguson's retirement. He was literally the manager and had a hand in everything.
The infrastructure wasn't there and still isn't there.
They need a European/modern model of DoF, scouting network, and a coach who fcuking inspires the players and is centred solely on coaching them.
But they need to change the set up first. Bringing in another "top" manager, such as a Conte or Zidane figure would solve nothing.
The club is royally fcuked.
Exactly. However it could be a good opportunity to get rid of some.
It pains me to see youngsters like Fosu Mensah/Tuanzebe on loan and we keep playing dross like Lindeloff
Makes sense his stock at United is declining rapidly, if as it looks likely he has his second league meltdown in the last 4 years, only Inter or PSG would probably touch him right now.
The Mourinho supporters disappeared pretty fast.
Inter maybe but no way when it comes to PSG. Players will veto a move like that, they play a type of football that is the complete opposite of what they aspireMakes sense his stock at United is declining rapidly, if as it looks likely he has his second league meltdown in the last 4 years, only Inter or PSG would probably touch him right now.
We need to get rid of both of them and start fresh. We cant have either of them at the club poisoning the rest of the squad furtherThe 15 million figure has to be rubbish. Considering his track record of having meltdowns it would be crazy to think that the club does not have a reasonable get out clause in his contract.
The bigger issue is the club can't fire him and be seen to let Pogba win the battle between them.
Ed does not need Pogba as a reason/excuse to fire Mourinho. Questionable team selections and shambolic tactical plan leading to 3 early season defeats as well as an early exit from a Cup competition is more than enough reason.The 15 million figure has to be rubbish. Considering his track record of having meltdowns it would be crazy to think that the club does not have a reasonable get out clause in his contract.
The bigger issue is the club can't fire him and be seen to let Pogba win the battle between them.
This boggles the mind.Mourinho is doing just fine. Give me a team with Chris Smalling as the number 1 CB and I’d struggle staying up, even if I had Ronaldo
Nah, it's not like that at all, everyone knows what Jose is, and how long he lasts at clubs, we could sack him tomorrow and no one would think any different of us, we'd be insane to sell half the squad just to prove we back the manager.
He needs sacking, and 'player power' won't be mentioned in the aftermath imo.
I actually think there's a difference in Jose now. At Real Madrid, Chelsea we did indeed see a short-term manager chucking in the towel and begging the owners to give him a nice big pay off after 2 or 3 years' hard work. With making Pogba captain this season, cutting public criticism of players, cutting all moaning of failed transfers after the window closed, we see a far more conciliatory Mourinho still absolutely determined to make his dream job work. We also however see players who know our history of sacking post-Fergie managers on a whim and know the manager himself historically gets sacked after a couple of seasons, and so due to his high level of demands and unrepentantly forthright style of management are deciding to play into that and get in a more simpering replacement.Problem is you're still making this a player vs manager decision. Most are judging the manager on the quality of his work not which players like or don't like him
Inter maybe but no way when it comes to PSG. Players will veto a move like that, they play a type of football that is the complete opposite of what they aspire
The In and Out threads have been merged.35 new pages to browse through...
Mourinho's turn now.
All of SAF's incredible work put to shame by 3 charlatans.
I will mark them just so I could ridicule you when it never happensHe will worm his way into PSG mark my words but we need to get rid of him first!
He signed Bailly and Lindelof and neither of them are working out (although I do think they are good players).Mourinho is doing just fine. Give me a team with Chris Smalling as the number 1 CB and I’d struggle staying up, even if I had Ronaldo
The In and Out threads have been merged.
bein sports said there has been preliminary contact between united and Zidane and it is believed that Zidane is willing to take over.Has there been any reports of us sacking him?
I was confused at first too, hence my post further upAhh that explains it, cheers mate.
I don't see this team finishing anywhere near the top 4 with Mourinho in charge.
Again this has nothing to do with taking Pogba's side. The people who are changing their vote aren't doing so to side with Pogba. Tactics, results, team performances, these are legit reasons you're ignoringI actually think there's a difference in Jose now. At Real Madrid, Chelsea we did indeed see a short-term manager chucking in the towel and begging the owners to give him a nice big pay off after 2 or 3 years' hard work. With making Pogba captain this season, cutting public criticism of players, cutting all moaning of failed transfers after the window closed, we see a far more conciliatory Mourinho still absolutely determined to make his dream job work. We also however see players who know our history of sacking post-Fergie managers on a whim and know the manager himself historically gets sacked after a couple of seasons, and so due to his high level of demands and unrepentantly forthright style of management are deciding to play into that and get in a more simpering replacement.
It's blindingly obvious that whatever we do now dictates what the players do next time they're faced with a similar situation; doesn't matter if it's Zidane, Pochettino, Guardiola, they can kiss their squad's desire goodbye if they too dare question King Pogba's desire to track back. Why is that desirable?
Right.I was confused at first too, hence my post further up
Same here mateSpent some time looking for the big new development that sparked 30 additional pages to this thread... sneaky modmins
These days, clubs can't afford to give managers to much time. You don't have time if you want to hang with your rivals. It's all about instant results.The day SAF left is the day the club changed forever. We should get off our high horse, we aren't special. Better clubs than us get rid of their managers when things don't work out
whoops that should says champions league football obviouslyWe won the CL and I didn't know it?
I hope you're right. Then again I'd hope the "conversations" with Zidane would have gone beyond initial by now!