The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

[Greck]

How far do they let this situation go before making the decision we know is coming anyway? These players are going to keep losing games through lack effort for their manager and it's going to be a season without Champions league if this carries on.

Top 4 is almost practically impossible but the numpties in charge will wait for mathematical confirmation

 

[Devil81]

He clearly wants out now anyway, if the board allow this to carry on we're gonna end up miles behind.

 

[Heinzesight]

He actually said that?

Yep, our manager came out with it post-match. Incredible it hasn’t got more attention.

 

[Canagel]

As shit as things are right now, that is the definition of taking something out of context and blowing up a story, which is not what we need. The bloke who posted that tweet is either a massive bellend or is illiterate and deaf.

I meant him saying the fans were asking for Martial to play and that's why he started today and left Sanchez at home. Is that not what he said? He shouldn't be influenced by what others think.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

An absolute joke of a manager he's become lately.

Needs to be sacked ASAP. Season can still be saved potentially.

 

[Paxi]

Not the Ronaldo I've been watching this season. Incredibly frustrating.

Well apparently he played an absolute blinder today. 3 assists.

 

[podurban2]

Jose’s quote of: “If they sent me away, do you have any idea how much money they would have to give me?!” really fecked me off after the Burnley match (I think)...but now it’s clear what a cheeky, calculated twat he was being.

Just sack him off and give it to McCarrick til the end of the season.

Get him out. Save your face Ed, this clown is not doing you any good.

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

A few people saying he wants out.

I don't understand why he wouldn't resign?

 

[SirAF]

A few people saying he wants out.

I don't understand why he wouldn't resign?

That would be a stupid thing to do since he wouldn’t get his payoff.

 

[Canagel]

I see your point, however from a momentum point-of-view the club may want to wait until after those fixtures. Can you imagine he goes now and however else is in charge loses those three fixtures... Will be very hard to pick the players and fans up for the rest of the season.

Agree but we have nothing to lose now. The season can be saved if he goes now. We are a team totally devoid of any ideas. Those are tough games for any manager but right now we have no chance.

 

[King Eric 7]

He's going to go kicking and screaming isn't he? The meltdown will be epic and I suspect that he is already preparing the list of excuses as to why he has failed at the job.

 

[Member 109952]

A few people saying he wants out.

I don't understand why he wouldn't resign?

He gets a huge payoff if he's sacked, he doesn't if he resigns. He got like £8m when Chelsea sacked him, Van Gaal picked up I think around a similar figure when we sacked him. Mourinho's on a higher salary so would likely pocket even higher from us.

 

[endless_wheelies]

I think what we do with Mourinho now defines who we are as a club for the next decade; sack him, and we become another player-power club, forever a pale imitation of our role models, Real Madrid.

Or we choose to back Mourinho, get rid of the players he wants rid of and let him finish the carving of his own team for better or worse, thus salvaging what remains of our reputation as a club where the manager is the boss of the players.

 

[Bobski]

Woodward has to be decisive. Yes the pay off is massive but missing out on CL football again kills the next managers first full season/transfer plan and with Mou in self sabotage mode we will see more of these shitty selections and bizarre subs.

 

[Random Task]

He gets a huge payoff if he's sacked, he doesn't if he resigns. He got like £8m when Chelsea sacked him, Van Gaal picked up I think around a similar figure when we sacked him. Mourinho's on a higher salary so would likely pocket even higher from us.

Jose stands to pocket around £15 million should he get sacked right now. Such a sum of money is not to be sniffed at by any means, can hardly blame him for hanging around to be fair.

 

[Random Task]

I think what we do with Mourinho now defines who we are as a club for the next decade; sack him, and we become another player-power club, forever a pale imitation of our role models, Real Madrid.

Or we choose to back Mourinho, get rid of the players he wants rid of and let him finish the carving of his own team for better or worse, thus salvaging what remains of our reputation as a club where the manager is the boss of the players.

Option one it is.

 

[ash_86]

An absolute joke of a manager he's become lately.

Needs to be sacked ASAP. Season can still be saved potentially.

1. 15+ m payout .
2. It's like throwing a white towel. No club would touch a manager who throws a towel.

 

[FootyGirl88]

Woodward is always boasting about how much money we have so if that's the case why does it matter how much we have to pay Jose? Just get him gone already.

 

[Castia]

I keep checking Sky Sports to see if he's been fired yet.

 

[Greck]

I think what we do with Mourinho now defines who we are as a club for the next decade; sack him, and we become another player-power club, forever a pale imitation of our role models, Real Madrid.

Or we choose to back Mourinho, get rid of the players he wants rid of and let him finish the carving of his own team for better or worse, thus salvaging what remains of our reputation as a club where the manager is the boss of the players.

Problem is you're still making this a player vs manager decision. Most are judging the manager on the quality of his work not which players like or don't like him

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

I think what we do with Mourinho now defines who we are as a club for the next decade; sack him, and we become another player-power club, forever a pale imitation of our role models, Real Madrid.

Or we choose to back Mourinho, get rid of the players he wants rid of and let him finish the carving of his own team for better or worse, thus salvaging what remains of our reputation as a club where the manager is the boss of the players.

Nah, it's not like that at all, everyone knows what Jose is, and how long he lasts at clubs, we could sack him tomorrow and no one would think any different of us, we'd be insane to sell half the squad just to prove we back the manager.

He needs sacking, and 'player power' won't be mentioned in the aftermath imo.

 

[ash_86]

I think what we do with Mourinho now defines who we are as a club for the next decade; sack him, and we become another player-power club, forever a pale imitation of our role models, Real Madrid.

Or we choose to back Mourinho, get rid of the players he wants rid of and let him finish the carving of his own team for better or worse, thus salvaging what remains of our reputation as a club where the manager is the boss of the players.

Though i hate #1, we're too late for #2. The players have already downed the tools and it will take astronomical effort from here to reach top 4 even if everything goes right.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

1. 15+ m payout .
2. It's like throwing a white towel. No club would touch a manager who throws a towel.

It could cost us more than 15 million if we keep him.

There's simply no excuse for the board to keep him.

They can pay off 15 million with the millions the club is making.

He's destroyed the club this season already and it's not even been 2 months. And it'll only get worse.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

I think what we do with Mourinho now defines who we are as a club for the next decade; sack him, and we become another player-power club, forever a pale imitation of our role models, Real Madrid.

Or we choose to back Mourinho, get rid of the players he wants rid of and let him finish the carving of his own team for better or worse, thus salvaging what remains of our reputation as a club where the manager is the boss of the players.

What kind of drivel is this?

We'd be sacking Mourinho, because he has utterly failed at his job.

3 wins, 1 draw and 3 losses. -2 goal difference.

He doesn't deserve more time. He's had plenty of time.

 

[FootyGirl88]

£15mil is chicken feed at this point - the club can make that money back in no time.

 

[ash_86]

It could cost us more than 15 million if we keep him.

There's simply no excuse for the board to keep him.

They can pay off 15 million with the millions the club is making.

He's destroyed the club this season already and it's not even been 2 months. And it'll only get worse.

Yes my points were for why Jose wouldn't resign by himself. As a club we have to get rid of him at this juncture. It's a no brainer.

 

[kouroux]

I think what we do with Mourinho now defines who we are as a club for the next decade; sack him, and we become another player-power club, forever a pale imitation of our role models, Real Madrid.

Or we choose to back Mourinho, get rid of the players he wants rid of and let him finish the carving of his own team for better or worse, thus salvaging what remains of our reputation as a club where the manager is the boss of the players.

The day SAF left is the day the club changed forever. We should get off our high horse, we aren't special. Better clubs than us get rid of their managers when things don't work out

 

[kouroux]

£15mil is chicken feed at this point - the club can make that money back in no time.

By easily selling a few players too.

 

[Livvie]

He gets a huge payoff if he's sacked, he doesn't if he resigns. He got like £8m when Chelsea sacked him, Van Gaal picked up I think around a similar figure when we sacked him. Mourinho's on a higher salary so would likely pocket even higher from us.

Absolutely bloody ridiculous that anyone who is sacked gets a huge payout - about time there was some agreement through Fifa or Uefa, on not rewarding people who don't do their jobs properly.

 

[Random Task]

It could cost us more than 15 million if we keep him.

There's simply no excuse for the board to keep him.

They can pay off 15 million with the millions the club is making.

He's destroyed the club this season already and it's not even been 2 months. And it'll only get worse.

True enough, we stand to lose a substantial amount should we fail to qualify for the CL.

Not exactly sure how much.

 

[Pace Abuser]

Sack him, pay him, and give it to McCarrick till the end of the season. Guaranteed improvement and the finances are still the same as if Jose was still here.

 

[elnorte]

It could cost us more than 15 million if we keep him.

There's simply no excuse for the board to keep him.

They can pay off 15 million with the millions the club is making.

He's destroyed the club this season already and it's not even been 2 months. And it'll only get worse.

I thought Moyes and Van Gaal had already done that?

 

[Minimalist]

I think what we do with Mourinho now defines who we are as a club for the next decade; sack him, and we become another player-power club, forever a pale imitation of our role models, Real Madrid.

Or we choose to back Mourinho, get rid of the players he wants rid of and let him finish the carving of his own team for better or worse, thus salvaging what remains of our reputation as a club where the manager is the boss of the players.

You need to wake up and stop being so snobby towards the rest of the footballing world. And that's the polite version of what I think.

Your whole argument stems from thinking United as a club are special and immune from the realities of modern football. We're not. The reason I say wake up is because I'm baffled how you didn't work this out already (it became clear under Moyes for christ sake).

We need to up our game, play by the same rules as everyone else and that includes not putting up with shite managerial performances (sack them if needs be). Stop worrying what other people think of Man Utd - worry about where Man Utd are in the fecking table.

Player power is nothing to do with this anymore. It might be an issue on the side but Mourinho is a complete failure now - doesn't matter what Paul Pogba does in the dressing room or in his spare time.

 

[17 Van der Gouw]

By easily selling a few players too.

Probably just one average player would make £15m these days. Fellaini, Rojo, Lindelof...

 

[rotherham_red]

I felt deep sympathy for LVG when he was sacked. It didn't work out but he had a plan on how to play and while it was fecking boring to watch in the second season, at least he got what it meant to be Utd manager and had a deep sense of respect to the club as an institution.

With Jose, I'll feel nothing. Not joy at his dismissal like I did with Moyes, or regret that it didn't work out like I did with LVG. He had a decent start but any momentum he had went up in smokes once Zlatan was injured against Anderlecht. That was the day that he put paid to any pretence of playing anything remotely entertaining in terms of style and it has lingered like a stale fart for 18 months. And any good will that he might have built up in his first season evaporated for me with the Sevilla game.

And whereas LVG was respectful of the club, Jose has been nowhere near it. This is the man who's commitment to the club couldn't even extend to be bothered to look for a home in Manchester for the 2 and a bit years he's been here, and he then fluttered his eyelashes at PSG while he was in the middle of contract negotiations with us.

On second thoughts, I might feel a deep anger when he finally goes. feck him and his personality cult. I hope they follow him to whichever shithole he'll manage next.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

I thought Moyes and Van Gaal had already done that?

Mourinho's turn now.

All of SAF's incredible work put to shame by 3 charlatans.

 

[Judas]

I think if we don't win a single game in October it'll probably be enough for Ed to be proactive and get rid. But you know what, he still might survive that. What a mess.

 

[Random Task]

You need to wake up and stop being so snobby towards the rest of the footballing world. And that's the polite version of what I think.

Your whole argument stems from thinking United as a club are special and immune from the realities of modern football. We're not. The reason I say wake up is because I'm baffled how you didn't work this out already (it became clear under Moyes for christ sake).

We need to up our game, play by the same rules as everyone else and that includes not putting up with shite managerial performances (sack them if needs be). Stop worrying what other people think of Man Utd - worry about where Man Utd are in the fecking table.

That would be 10th and rapidly falling.

Relegation calls.

 

[PeteManic]

Mourinho is a symptom of bigger issues that still haven't been resolved.

United were run like an old fashioned club up to Ferguson's retirement. He was literally the manager and had a hand in everything.

The infrastructure wasn't there and still isn't there.

They need a European/modern model of DoF, scouting network, and a coach who fcuking inspires the players and is centred solely on coaching them.

But they need to change the set up first. Bringing in another "top" manager, such as a Conte or Zidane figure would solve nothing.

The club is royally fcuked.

 

[kouroux]

Probably just one average player would make £15m these days. Fellaini, Rojo, Lindelof...

Exactly. However it could be a good opportunity to get rid of some.
It pains me to see youngsters like Fosu Mensah/Tuanzebe on loan and we keep playing dross like Lindeloff