Zidane would be a disaster with this squad.
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Zidane would be a disaster with this squad.
You don't understand clamour for Zidane but then say Pochettino would be better for us? Overrating of Pochettino is really something on Caf, never seen it anywhere else, probably even Spurs fans don't rate him as highly as most of our fans do...
Jose was probably just telling him that next time, he wants a handshake like Arnie and Carl Weathers from Predator.
If you slow it down, he has his hand out in front of Mourinho then I think they shake and he moves on to MBG. It is tough as the view is obscured by Carrick but Pogba definitely has his hand out before getting to MBG and here you can see Mourinho putting his hand back in his pocket after they shake hands (microsecond prior you see Pogba's hand move up and down).
Why ? Zaltan has one of the biggest egos in the game, he played under mourinho two times, and there was only respect between the two.
What has Pocchetino won with his very good team?
I didn't nominate him either!
This is becoming depressing and it's like a circus at the club right now.
This just shows the division between the squad and manager right now.I think that it's probably best Mou
leaves the club as he has definitely lost the dressing room now.He has lost the hunger that he had all those years
and now all we see is a bitter man always throwing his players under the bus. This we are watching isn't the united way
but when last have we seen that, we in for a rough ride still and will probably get worse before it gets better.
Mourinho hasn't evolved with the times as soccer has changed so much over the years and parking the bus and lumping the ball forward
to Fellaini isn't the answer, hopefully we get to see some change soon as there is quality in the squad to probably get in top 4.
This just shows the division between the squad and manager right now.I think that it's probably best Mou
leaves the club as he has definitely lost the dressing room now.He has lost the hunger that he had all those years
and now all we see is a bitter man always throwing his players under the bus. This we are watching isn't the united way
but when last have we seen that, we in for a rough ride still and will probably get worse before it gets better.
Mourinho hasn't evolved with the times as soccer has changed so much over the years and parking the bus and lumping the ball forward
to Fellaini isn't the answer, hopefully we get to see some change soon as there is quality in the squad to probably get in top 4.
Imo, Pochettino is a better fit. Admittedly, Zidane has won more stuff but getting the right man is more than just "he's won a lot of stuff".
Pochettino's great if you don't want to win anything.
Mourinho is the classic example of a twat you play chess with and when he realizes he is going to lose, he'll flip the board and run away. So not one bit surprised by half the shit he's been pulling. I think Woody is not firing him owing to the fact that his job on the football side is tied to Jose's success after two previous managerial appointment failures. If he fails again he's going to buried in some windowless office in London.
Shaw is the counterexample to this. He's been our best player so far this season and for the past few seasons he'd have been the prime example of a player people would have said had his confidence eaten away.
If it matters, Zidane is in London just posted on social media (instagram)
I don't care who he is - he's getting clamped in 20 minutes if he doesn't shift it!
Every time I think maybe I'm being too harsh after we have a couple of 'good' games we take two steps back.
I feel like everyone has already decided we're stuck with him til at least near the end of the season or until this gets worse but why wait? feck him off now and get a modern manager in.
Everyone we've hired since Fergie has been a tough old school style manager. That's not the way the game is today and Mourinho is refusing to accept that. Blatantly calling people out doesn't work like it used to.
I feel like everyone has already decided we're stuck with him til at least near the end of the season or until this gets worse but why wait? feck him off now and get a modern manager in.
Everyone we've hired since Fergie has been a tough old school style manager. That's not the way the game is today and Mourinho is refusing to accept that. Blatantly calling people out doesn't work like it used to.
If you guys think hiring the next big name manager is going to fix things, you’re all mistaken.
A plan needs to be set to create an identity (doesn’t have to be the one SAF created). The hire personnel that believe in said identify. Players, staff, manager. Whatever the Man Utd way has to be, it has to be something everyone at the club buys in to. Not just waiting for a manager to install it.
I don’t hate Jose. He obviously is a talentetd manager. But he doesn’t fit with the people around in this club. Same goes for woodword. He doesn’t suit our football side. Both need to go. This club needs some vision, which is more than how many sponsorships we can get.
A plan needs to be set to create an identity (doesn’t have to be the one SAF created). The hire personnel that believe in said identify. Players, staff, manager. Whatever the Man Utd way has to be, it has to be something everyone at the club buys in to. Not just waiting for a manager to install it.
I don’t hate Jose. He obviously is a talentetd manager. But he doesn’t fit with the people around in this club. Same goes for woodword. He doesn’t suit our football side. Both need to go. This club needs some vision, which is more than how many sponsorships we can get.
Neither of them are such an obvious route to success as Klopp/Pep and that’s for damn sure. Which sucks balls.
What Poch does offer is decent football and a fantastic record of youth development. Plus the possibility he might win things with a bit more money to invest. In the absence of any other obvious candidates I’d happily settle for that.
All Zidane offers is a recent record of winning prestigious cup competitions when handed the best squad of players in Europe. Which couldn’t be further from the task he’d face at United.
Mourinho came as a serial winner, guaranteeing success. Doesn’t always work like that.
....this would make sense.
Pogba would've been thinking to himself, "Predator handshake? I'm going to have to bulk up, big time!"
The doubt many of us should have with Zidane is that he took over arguably the best squad in Europe. He didn't need to rebuild, he didn't need to shake confidence back in a struggling team. Everything was there ready for him. Very different scenario with us.
It's less to do with what he has managed to win so far, but the attitude he shows towards being successful. If he's not interested in winning silverware as a priority and doesn't think it is important, I don't want him managing United. Big clubs try and win everything. They don't pick and choose.
On the positive side, he's hungry to win and he works for Uncle Scrooge.
Just looked at his previous photos and there's one of him wearing shorts Alexis Sanchez style. It's a sign.
I don't know if anybody posted it here
No, he's not. That's my point. He's won feck all, but already believes he's above winning anything apart from the bigger prize.
It's almost like we have close-hand experience of this.
Do you want Zidane?
What on earth has Jose said there to provoke that kind of reaction from Pogba. I'm not being funny but he must be a complete twat to work for, the club need to bin the man before his poison spreads further. Bobby Charlton was right, the guy isn't the right man for Manchester United.
Pochettino isn't going to want to replace Jose anyway in the current mess. He'll want to see how things pan out I reckon.
Saying that, money talks. If Woody throws it at Poch and promises him a huge transfer kitty in January, he'll probably come.
But do our owners/Woody even consider Pochettino as next Man Utd manager? I'd love a young, hungry, respectable man as boss now. I'm fed up with yesterday's managers like LvG and JM.
Saying that, money talks. If Woody throws it at Poch and promises him a huge transfer kitty in January, he'll probably come.
But do our owners/Woody even consider Pochettino as next Man Utd manager? I'd love a young, hungry, respectable man as boss now. I'm fed up with yesterday's managers like LvG and JM.
The last guy we hired who never won a trophy, was Moyes. You saw the result? 7th place. Zero trophy count.
After that debacle, are you seriously suggesting that we go for another manager who hasn't won anything?
And regarding Zidane: imagine if he joined and assessed our squad. Our CB pairing for the last few years: Smalling & Jones. He'd ask the current coaches, "Is this a joke"?
Then he'd look at our attack: Lukaku.
A couple of days later, he'll hand in his resignation and ask Woodward to re-hire Jose!
Poch is definitely the safer option but with the assumption that with superior funds he would go on to win trophies.
Every potential managerial appointment has question marks - I think after the last three managers, we would just appreciate some coherent, pattern-driven football on show. Including better behaviour. Or at least on the goofy side of bad behaviour (ala Van Gaal) rather than being a total drag like Shitcoat is.
Every potential managerial appointment has question marks - I think after the last three managers, we would just appreciate some coherent, pattern-driven football on show. Including better behaviour. Or at least on the goofy side of bad behaviour (ala Van Gaal) rather than being a total drag like Shitcoat is.
*shrugs* Don't know who I want to be honest. Was just trying to make a joke
Which is, hopefully, why he might be willing to leave Spurs and take over at a “Big club”.
That post is old as the internet! They did shake hands.
If Poch joins and after 2 years wins nothing (which will most likely be the case), you will be the guy who would want to hit the reset button.
You need to understand that hitting the reset button after every 2-3 years isn't serving us well.
The problems we have are deeper than the manager.
A lot of players would disagree with that.
I think at best it's 50-50.
Difference is that Poch has shown on multiple occasions that he can't handle the pressure of the big occasions. When the expectancy & attention is on Spurs they fail, now that could be because it's Spurs - but the season Leicester won the title for example went above and beyond.
If he were to take the job here then the expectancy is that we are to establish ourselves as a top 2 club in the country, and improve our performances in Europe.
I just don't think he has the bottle to do it.
Zidane has managed a squad full of prima donnas that all but tossed out Ancelotti & Benitez and guided them to 3 CL's, that's impressive. He also introduced the likes of Casemiro & Vasquez into the first team also - so he didn't just rely on the superstars.
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