Also the LOTR line with following your nose
Television The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power
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I watched the LOTR trilogy not long ago, and have noticed since episode one that the show (Rings of Power) have been reusing a lot of the dialogues/lines from the movies here and there, which is understandable because they don't have the rights to much more.
In the case of meteorite man, they used the exact same line Gandalf used in the movies ("When lost, follow your nose" or something like that), so yeah. he should be Gandalf
In the case of meteorite man, they used the exact same line Gandalf used in the movies ("When lost, follow your nose" or something like that), so yeah. he should be Gandalf
I don’t see why they wouldn’t have just named him as
Gandalf
He got that name way later, didn't he?
Its the shows way of keeping suspense. His line " I am goooood!" is probably among the worst in the series. I predict they will try and score credit with the Tolkien nerds by first calling him Olorin and Mithrandir. A bit like Sauron he has many names.
galadriel is actually gandalf, the clue is they both start with the letter g. a clever nod to those of us who are experts in tolkien.
Ah! That makes sense then. Although they were insinuating once he gets to Rhun he’s going to find out who he is and be named.
Yeah, most likely this.
And this as well ‚ but the main idea, I'd expect, would be to get tons of articles "is it really him?".
When Galadriel interrogated Adar (Mr OrcElf), he said something along the lines that Sauron sought to rule not "off the flesh but over the flesh" and an "unseen power" or something like that. The exact same phrasing was later used by Celebrimbor when he tried to convince the elf king which made her suspicious of Halbrand. The missing heritage was just conformation
As for the rings: In LotR, it is said that the rings are the one thing that keeps the Elvish realm from fading. That's a general theme of the book - the Elves are closely bounded to Valinor and the light of it (the two trees, silmarils, the stars, etc.). Elves who stemmed from there are more powerful. When they are seperated from it, they lose power, etc. The rings preserve their power and by the way the show described mithril, it actually makes sense that they do so because it is actually light of Valinor again.
As for the rings: In LotR, it is said that the rings are the one thing that keeps the Elvish realm from fading. That's a general theme of the book - the Elves are closely bounded to Valinor and the light of it (the two trees, silmarils, the stars, etc.). Elves who stemmed from there are more powerful. When they are seperated from it, they lose power, etc. The rings preserve their power and by the way the show described mithril, it actually makes sense that they do so because it is actually light of Valinor again.
Gandalf went from barely knowing a word to speaking in full sentences. Also surely he should have an Irish accent
Two year break? What the feck
i really liked it, i suspect if like me you've never read the books, you'll enjoy it.
If you've read the books, you're enjoyment will be affected by how anal you are around them sticking to the books word for word.
If you've read the books, you're enjoyment will be affected by how anal you are around them sticking to the books word for word.
Yep, pretty much this
It's just based on the appendix of a book. It's 95% fan fiction.
I doubt they have the rights to that character which is why they've left it open as to which wizard he is. It's a bit confusing as the Istari were Maiar sent by the Valar in the Third Age specifically in the form of old men so they would be weak.
Also that's a name given to him (if it is him) by others in the future. His Maiar name he may not even remember.
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It's like they told the actor just before they filmed the final episode, 'oh by the way, you're gandalf!' so he went full Ian McKellen for his last few scenes. You never go full Ian McKellen.
They totally have the rights to Gandalf.
Feminem and the other Sauron Sand Snakes talked about ‘lifting the veil’ and ‘making him see’. I think that and having a staff to harness his power levels him up instantly in Magic and Int.
Agreed, in the same boat as you with regards to this
Do they? They bought the rights to the Second Age characters, not the Third Age Lord of the Rings characters. I don't think Tolkien estate even owns those rights. Of course Gandalf existed as Olorin the angelic Maiar living in Valinor but not as Gandalf, a name given to him by Hobbits in the Third Age.
It's just 95% fan fiction and the rest is based on the LOTR appendix
Decent episode, and liked it to end the season
Confirmed Sauron, and Gandalf, without name him so
Did Galadriel read the script for this episode as she was immediately suspicious of Halbrand all episode despite spending all season totally ignorant of who he was
That the show can't follow the books word for word since there isn't really a book for the 2nd age. Just some references in the appendix. I like the fact that they can make shit up, I only moan when the writing average or terrible. I don't mind that the writers essentially have to make up their own story based loosely on the appendix of LOTR. It's a cashgrab, but they obviously put all the money into the visuals and production values rather than the writing. Having Gandalf roar "I am goooood!" is up there with Revenge of the Sith writing.
It was handled poorly. I kept rewinding to see what happened at the council to prompt her to suddenly check the lineage.
Ah it's a bit more complicated than that. When the series was written they didn't have the rights to Lord of the Rings main characters. They bought residual rights off the Tolkien estate.
https://winteriscoming.net/2022/02/...ghts-back-on-the-market-for-around-2-billion/
But it seems they then acquired full rights in March 2022 so there is nothing to stop them doing whatever they like now, so you are correct they can use Gandalf however they please within the unknown boundaries of their private contracts. But they might not have known that when they filmed this.
Feminem
Sad to see feminim go. Was one of the more interesting characters.
I'd give it a 6 for the high production quality on your scale. I thought it was improving over the course of the season but the last episode dragged it back down to bleh for me.
Halbrand is a really messy character where he can seemingly implant messages without speaking and create illusions that cant be discerned from reality. It just makes you question everything that happened over the course of the season. Was he talking to Celebrimbor about harnessing the power of the rings during the time jumps with days and weeks passing from one scene to the next or could he drop a message that Celebrimbor thought was his own? The second is implied with Celebrimbor insisting its his idea. I would've prefered if they'd shown that rather than told me.
He also seems to be psychic knowing galadriel would be hanging out in the sea in the middle of nowhere and pretty confident that she wouldn't recognise him a lot sooner and murder him.
It makes the narrator of the show really unreliable. Days and weeks pass between scenes and what we're shown cant be taken at face value if Halbrand was within a mile of it occuring.
Your left with an hours worth of dwarf stuff stretched over 8 weeks and the same again for Meteor Man.
The words that Adar said to her about Sauron suddenly matched Celebrimbor's description of what he's been meaning to do with the rings, word for word. Extremely convenient.
Also when he said that Halbrand's suggestions were "the key that unlocked the dam" They couldn't have been more on the nose about it.
"Call it a gift" was a subtler reference that only the fans would get, but that council scene was just hilariously bad.
Also when he said that Halbrand's suggestions were "the key that unlocked the dam"
They couldn't have been more on the nose about it."Call it a gift" was a subtler reference that only the fans would get, but that council scene was just hilariously bad.
It’s better than the hobbit though…
I knew he was gandalf, fecking knew it
Don't get why the Elves decided to carry on making the rings when Sauron was telling them to
Don't get why the Elves decided to carry on making the rings when Sauron was telling them to
The Hobbit was awful though. Just a money making exercise. As a hard core Tolkien fan, I actually quite like Rings of Power for trying to do new things and doing quite a lot of them well. Obviously it hs to be treated as fan fiction because that is exactly what it is. But a lot of it is enjoyable. It just lacks the intelligence and depth of the original works so far. And the plotting and dialogue is often poor. I hope they do better with the next series.
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Because they need them to survive. They needed mithril in large quantities but that was off the table. Sauron teached them how to enhance the power of the little mithril they had by mixing it with other elements.
They were kinda desperate, so they were going to go ahead with it no matter if Sauron himself gave them the idea. The idea that the rings might be part of some long term plan by Sauron probably never crossed their minds.
Well then they're idiots
Did Sauron even know about rings before he arrived at Lindon? It appears he was simply chasing Galadriel's ass and the whole ring thing was a huge coincidence since he knew nothing about any of it before he arrived. The're pretty much plot mcguffins. Tolkien's more profound meditations on the nature of entropy and mortality are somewhat sidelined so far.
I actually kinda like the general plot of this first season. Falling in love with your biggest enemy is really kinda poetic. Galadriel would have been a badass evil queen, don't you all think?!