I see. Maybe I will watch it after the season has completed.
Yes. They made a him a king on the basis of the locket.
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Yes. The writers just needed the story to go in that direction so they forced it to go in that direction.
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Yes. The writers just needed the story to go in that direction so they forced it to go in that direction.
Okay thanks.
One more thing
Is Orcs not being able to face the sun part of the LOTR too? Because they show initially that Orcs cant go out in the sun but after volcano eruption they can suddenly do in Southlands. If i remember correctly then Orcs were able to walk freely everywhere in Middle earth during the day time in LOTR. So it has nothing to with Volcano eruption shielding the sun intensity or there is some other stuff that suddenly makes them immune?
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IIRC, orcs have an aversion to sunlight. That's why Saruman's Uruk Hai were special, because they could run in open daylight. The volcano created a huge cloud that blocked the sun and allowed the orcs to work during daytime. In the LOTR movies, a dark cloud covered Mordor which allowed the orcs to come out and fight.
Orcs have always been averse to the sun, being created before the sun shone on middle earth it hurts & blinds them.
The Uruk-hai, although not fond of the sun, were not affected as much by it and could roam around in daylight.
Rewatched some of yesterdays episode. I think its very clear now that the three hooded Eminem women are
Werewolves.
How so?
I'm pretty sure that werewolves in Tolkien's world weren't shapeshifters, they were permanently stuck in their wolf-like form. Aside from Sauron who was a known shapeshifter.
Trying to get the priest lynched. Wolf.
I could be wrong, but here's my thinking.
1. They walk around barefoot, I noticed it this time round as the footprint isn't a shoe footprint but you can see the outlines of the toes. You also clearly see the shoeless foot of the woman on the right holding the staff at the stream scene.
2. They don't ever talk and use simple communication via gestures.
3. They have really fecking weird eyes and black stained hands.
4. They don't have anything that you would expect to see an adventurer going over vast distances would have. They have a staff and the weird shield thing. Nothing else. No bags, no canteens, no food, nothing.
5. They managed to catch up to the Hobbits in no time, this might be due to bad writing, but on first viewing my eyes rolled when they had caught up immediately given the scene before they were at the meteor impact site. But that's more explainable if they're fecking werewolves.
5b. Werewolves be dope.
2. They don't ever talk and use simple communication via gestures.
3. They have really fecking weird eyes and black stained hands.
4. They don't have anything that you would expect to see an adventurer going over vast distances would have. They have a staff and the weird shield thing. Nothing else. No bags, no canteens, no food, nothing.
5. They managed to catch up to the Hobbits in no time, this might be due to bad writing, but on first viewing my eyes rolled when they had caught up immediately given the scene before they were at the meteor impact site. But that's more explainable if they're fecking werewolves.
5b. Werewolves be dope.
They don't really match anybody else from the Tolkien legendarium. Assuming the Stranger is a Maia sent to get in Sauron's face, they are clearly servants of Morgoth of some kind sent to track him down - but there aren't many other candidates that fit the bill. This would be a solid guess as we know Sauron was mentioned as
the Lord of Werewolves, and a Sauron werewolf killed Finrod, Galadriel's brother. And while no werewolves were ever mentioned in the books as having human forms, neither were they mentioned as not either.
The thing is they don't. They are basically working off of a few pages in the ROTK appendices and other references in the LOTR. Other than that anything even unintentionally that comes close to what Tolkien wrote then they'll probably have to change it.
I'd love to know how the rights work in these scenarios. I don't think the relationships between Galadriel and Gil-Galad or Elrond is mentioned in LOTR books which Amazon have rights to. So can they even mention the relationships?
why are his relatives so gatekeepery over their grandads writing? So what if they Get paid for it? If my ancestors had written a book about 100 years ago and I could make some sweet sweet cash out of it, I’d be all over that. Let Amazon buy all the rights, maintain creative control and watch those millions roll in.
So there won't be a massive battle where Isildur chops of Sauron's wedding finger?
It's actually in the LOTR, isn't it? Not in detail, but still. So they can use it.
Numenor's fall. Have they got rights for that as well? It's a shame C Tolkien won't cooperate.
Think this is covered in the appendices to LOTR so they should be able to include it.
Ahh okay. I found the books unreadable so I'd love to see all his work on screen.
He's dead?
If werewolves are meant to be bad/evil, why didn't M&M use the fire to kill the Harfoot in one breath instead of just setting their apples on fire? That seemed like a merciful (or tactical?) action.
It will be the rest of the family most likely. Their estate produces nothing, just holds onto the IP so it's all they've got. They'll keep a hold of what they can so it goes up in value is my guess.
I wouldn't call it mercy, they burnt everything, their homes and their food. Stranding them in the middle of nowhere. Punishment for Nori attempting to mislead them. Clearly their main mission is to track down the Stranger and not get preoccupied with anything else. At first I thought they were undoing the magic that the Stranger had done, but if that was the case, they'd have burnt the trees as well.
Yes but that doesn't excuse the absolutely terrible writing they have come up with.
For the money they have spent it has been shocking whether it's the writing, plotting or characters.
Galadriel and Theo are so unlikeable while Adar is somehow one of the most likeable characters. That was certainly not the intention but that's how bad they have made the show
Wow, Tolkien nerds are actually even more miserable than Star Wars nerds 
"The elves derk our jobs!"
Wow, Tolkien nerds are actually even more miserable than Star Wars nerds
Proper Tolkien nerds don't even own TVs let alone computers. You're looking at the part-timers...
My perception is that the arse factor has dissipated quite a lot since CT passed. There was a pre-eminent Tolkien scholar called Tom Shippey that Amazon had to run their scripts by for consistency with the holy scriptures. But shortly after CT died, Professor Shippey was consigned to NDA limbo.
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If they are then the Stranger would be
either Finrod or Celeborn, even if the hobbit girl got it wrong when she said he didn't have pointy ears. The comet arrival denotes him being released from the Halls of Mandos to aid Galadriel. My guess is fan-fiction Sauron will return to evil when fan-fiction Galadriel friend zones him for her resurrected husband
Surely elves have a very distinct appearance, why would a resurrected elf look completely different?
Being dead will do that to you. But really the only thing against the theory is the ears which we haven't seen for ourselves.
Didn’t Nori already say he didn’t have pointy ears? When she and Poppi first found him and were theorizing on what he was.
The stranger is obviously an Istar. Only mystery is which one.
- his beard
- his height
- non-Elvish magical powers
And here's Glorfindel's description from LOTR — again, he was quite clearly recognizable as an elf, keeping his original appearance:
Suddenly into view below came a white horse, gleaming in the shadows, running swiftly. In the dusk its headstall flickered and flashed, as if it were studded with gems like living stars. The rider's cloak streamed behind him, and his hood was thrown back; his golden hair flowed shimmering in the wind of his speed.... it appeared that white light was shining through the form and raiment of the rider, as if though through a thin veil.
Nothing about ears though. The Stranger seems good with trees and so was Celeborn. His height is just compared to hobbits. And elves can have beards. I reckon he will scrub up into a decent looking elf.
Feel like this could be misdirection. The Istari were all old men and he is not. We know Celeborn is going to turn up - this seems like a decent candidate. I want to see his ears for myself before I believe a half witted Harefoot.
How weird would the twist be if they'd bank all-in on hobbit's inability to see stuff with her own eyes? Not simply ignoring the ears but deliberately giving us the information that he doesn't have ones?
Again, the beard thing is so odd and random
The height would also be quite inconsistent — we see him next to wolves, we see harefoots next to the cloaked cult dudes and they don't look even remotely as high as him.
I digress though, feel free to believe what you wish
Again, the beard thing is so odd and random
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The height would also be quite inconsistent — we see him next to wolves, we see harefoots next to the cloaked cult dudes and they don't look even remotely as high as him.
I digress though, feel free to believe what you wish
Really enjoyed that episode, sad there's only one left.
I like it more when you post here than in the footy forum. Totally agree.
That was a good finale IMO. One of the better episodes of the season. Wrapped up most things well enough.
BTW, that Nerdrotic guy on twitter is an idiot. FFS. The blind leading the blind there.
BTW, that Nerdrotic guy on twitter is an idiot. FFS. The blind leading the blind there.
Don't know how I felt about the Sauron reveal.
Felt Halbrand was ousted a bit too quickly after he gave advice in making the rings. He was only Annatar so to speak for a very brief amount of time. Would have liked Eminim to have featured for longer
typical that just as it’s hotting up they’ll be a 2 year break.
distinct lack of isildur’s fit sister in latter episodes. hopefully the writers receive my letters and diagrams.
distinct lack of isildur’s fit sister in latter episodes. hopefully the writers receive my letters and diagrams.