Alvaro Fernandez - EUR15m. Hard to find a better deal for January. Experienced in the English game. Can play LWB or LB. Peak is still 4 years away.
The left-back market…
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I think for Amorim system we probably need 3 quality wingbacks in the next 3 transfer windows since we have none now given the importance of this role in his system. Amad should be playing further forward.
Buying back Alvaro is such a no brainer
Buying back Alvaro is such a no brainer
I like Alvaro and I get he is cheap but I’m not convinced it’s a great idea to bring him back. He is another player lacking pace, who would be playing in close proximity to Martinez who is slow and can’t cover the ground.
That would be my only concern with him. We really lack dynamism and athleticism when compared to the very top teams - hell, even when compared against most EPL teams we look slower and weaker.
We need some explosiveness provided by our wingbacks IMO. It’s why I’d love Davies or someone of that profile if budget doesn’t allow us to sign Davies.
I'll take a high quality left young left back who also counts as homegrown without pace for 16m all day every day. Also for someone who doesn't have pace his defensive numbers in deuels are excellent.
It's really a no brainer, bring him back in January and spend money on a left winger/left sided 10 Rashford replacement.
It’s not a brainer when we’d be adding another player short of pace to a squad that is almost devoid of it. It’s just repeating the flawed recruitment that has seen us end up with a squad with that very issue.
He’s the sort of player people will get excited about by looking at YouTube clips and stats like you’ve mentioned but complain about very quickly once they realise he is a bit pedestrian. Especially given he’ll be surrounded by players with a similar issue.
It's pretty much an open secret that he is joining his fellow Hungarian at Liverpool sadly.
What evidence do you have that he doesn't have pace?
Youtube clips and stats aren't the same thing. Van Dijk went an entire season without a player dribbling past him which is an incredible stat and only highlighted how elite he was. Alvaro performing incredibly high on every duel metric isn't your biased eye test.
Individual goal output is overrated.
We need players that can play well and help the team score more goals. Rashford and Garnacho look like huge goal threats on paper due to their stats, but the team is worse off with them trying to shoot on sight.
Don't get the pace complains here for Alvaro, he's very deceptive in that way. Glides along the pitch and as a LWB it's even better. Reminds me of Marcos Alonso at Chelsea.
Why would we pay premium No10 player level money to buy a wide forwards and convert him to a wingback?
Need wing backs with pace. If we going to play this system. In the games I have seen so far. We are lacking an out ball. A lot of our build up play has improved under Ruben, but when it comes to the final third we seem lost. Davies , Theo Hernadez obviously dream signings. But maybe a no go especially considering they are in teams with champions league football . Robinson at Fulhm is rapid and Ait- Nouri at Wolves would suit the system. Solid options until Amass or Diego Leon is ready. Dorgu would be a good choice and cheap. But Serie A has been an unlucky market for us in recent years
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If I were him, I’m not sure I’d want to come back either; our club is a mess and he’s already playing every week at a big club. He might not even be far off an International call up.
Unless he’s given guarantees he’s first choice, where’s the incentive?
I thought about the same thing. Why not stay in Portugal, where Benfica has the chance to become champions, rather than move to a team in the lower end of the PL?
You don't see the attraction of Manchester United? Sheesh where does this forum attract so many trolls from?
Let’s offer alphonso Davies a contract in Jan. that’s that position sorted for the summer then.
I honestly don't think we want to give another 250k+ contract atm.
Ridiculous. We absolutely would, Davies is 23 and has years of game time ahead of him
He’d be worth it. The guy would fit that side so well. He’s even played winger before. He’d dominate that side. And he’s rapid. Would improve us massively
There have been a lot of players that have been worth it on paper and have ended up being a complete albatross for years to come. We buy him and he phones in his performances and we can't shift him.
There is passionate and then there is being a vulnerability for a team because you pick stupid yellows and reds
Also I think it's fair to say that the game and refs are not what they used to be back in Kean days, so you cannot really behave like Roy, this day and age.
It would be a free transfer…
Miguel Gutiérrez would be a Yoro level signing in increasing the technical ceiling of our team. He has a relatively low release clause and has stats to back he is the best LB in the world right now. The only unknown is what Real Madrid would do, as they have a 8m euro release clause.
What many don't understand is that The term free is an illusion as the player would still get most of the fee through signing on fees and a higher salary. To make matters worse his teammates can't care less if he's a free agent or not. If they are paid less while doing better then they'll be paid accordingly
We should be looking for a left-footed player who embodies the relentless energy, pace, power and attacking prowess of Antonio Valencia. This player should excel at hugging the touchline, driving to the byline, and delivering precise crosses into the box.
On the right flank, Amorim typically prefers a player who is more attack-minded and creative, bringing a different dynamic to the game. I'd imagine he'll go back to putting Amad there when we add to the attacking positions. In addition to that, he'll probably add Quenda to the squad.
On the right flank, Amorim typically prefers a player who is more attack-minded and creative, bringing a different dynamic to the game. I'd imagine he'll go back to putting Amad there when we add to the attacking positions. In addition to that, he'll probably add Quenda to the squad.
We we going to need a bunch of left footed LWB, LB, left footed RWB so Alvaro in Jan can be part of the solution. Maybe Dorgu in the summer (or vice versa).
It's not the cost of buying. It's buying a player at the top of their potential so that when you inevitably want to move them on you can't.
I would surprised if INEOS sanctioned any deal for a player more than 200k/wk.
Look at what we have at left back and the wages being paid left backs in the premier league. We could massively improve this position with a player salaried at 100k/wk or less.
The good news is we have a bunch of options to explore, with already established top level LWBs such as Theo or Davies available, a few low risk PL options such as Ait-Nouri, Kerkez and Leif Davis, as well as some young highly promising players from Europe like Dorgu and Miguel Gutierrez.
Theo or Davies are the dream, especially if Theo is actually available at the reported 40m. But being pessimistic and assuming we can’t get either, Miguel Gutierrez looks like he’s on the cusp of being one of the best in the world in his position so he would be my next choice.
With Shaw likely still kicking around and Amass and Diego Leon as young prospects, I would then focus on the RWB spot and see if Quenda is gettable from Sporting for the RWB spot.
Theo or Davies are the dream, especially if Theo is actually available at the reported 40m. But being pessimistic and assuming we can’t get either, Miguel Gutierrez looks like he’s on the cusp of being one of the best in the world in his position so he would be my next choice.
With Shaw likely still kicking around and Amass and Diego Leon as young prospects, I would then focus on the RWB spot and see if Quenda is gettable from Sporting for the RWB spot.
Young left back for Bournemouth every time I've watched them has been impressive.
Others stating the player in La Liga, it's good to have options but I'd go with a premier league proven talent above all else. Looking at the transfer activity under ETH I can't think of one signing that hit the ground running aside Casemiro and it's due to investing in talent overseas as opposed to buying domestically proven players.
Others stating the player in La Liga, it's good to have options but I'd go with a premier league proven talent above all else. Looking at the transfer activity under ETH I can't think of one signing that hit the ground running aside Casemiro and it's due to investing in talent overseas as opposed to buying domestically proven players.
I like Robinson, never seen Guiterrez, think Fernandez is too slow.
How am I a troll - because I’ve offered a different perspective? Grow up.
He’s already been binned off by the club once and wasn’t given an opportunity when we didn’t have a fit left back at the club. He snow fist choice at a club who play CL football year in year out where his stick has risen in no time at all.
Our club is a mess with no money and no imminent signs of a dramatic turnaround. I’m just saying it may not be that appealing when he’s already had his fingers burnt here once.
I am a grown up. If you can't see the attraction of a huge club in the best league in the world, then your opinion is just wrong. Your opinion comes across just like a trolls would.
Kerkez. Yeah he's very good. Needs to get his sideburns cut though.
I was talking specifically in relation to Fernandez, not the club in general and an opinion cannot be wrong because that’s simply what it is - it’s not wrong because you don’t agree with it.
He might run back barefoot for all I know because he can’t wait to come back, I’m just saying that it’s not beyond the realms off possibility he might not want to as he already been offloaded once and we are currently all over the place as a club.
What's Reguilon up to nowadays? 
What's Reguilon up to nowadays?
Telles with his whipping cross as a LWB would be decent. He came too soon and was a mess. (that's what she said).
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What about Buttner? Premier league winner and going strong in the Dutch second division.
Damn.. He's 35 y.o. already. His United early few games were also very decent, adding to that romantic story of him coming out from hippie community.
Telles was poor. Never really warmed to him even if he did have some highlight reel moments.
If Reguilon is the same player as the one we saw last year, then I wouldn't be against a January loan considering our budget or lack of it. A technical Spanish player, who has a good work ethic, good link up play and general game intelligence. Not the most physical imposing or defensively sound but would be good competition for that current depth of quality on the left now.