Gaming The Last of Us Part II (PS4)

MaxiPaxi said:
Oh, how this thread is going to bang after the actual game releases and people realise the anger from the guys that seen the leaks had nothing to do with sexual orientation or identity politics.
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Hmm. From what I've seen it's a mixture of both. There'd definitely people who don't rate the story but also those who are attacking it from a right wing /too much liberal direction pov.

We'll just have to see how it goes. My hunch is that it won't get universal acclaim.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
Oh, how this thread is going to bang after the actual game releases and people realise the anger from the guys that seen the leaks had nothing to do with sexual orientation or identity politics.
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In terms of the people in this thread, and not the wider internet? If so, who has been accused in here of being angry about sexual orientation or identity politics?

Because most have said it's the story. Which is fair enough, no matter what it is.


Massive Spanner said:
The anger is still fecking dumb, even if it's just about hating the story. Death threats to employees, abuse online, and intentionally downvoting everything you can naughty dog related just because you don't like the direction they've taken the story in is fecking weird.
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The weird thing for me is that there's one or two in here more concerned about what people think about their opinions on the story, then the absolute vile outrage on places like twitter. Even if it was just about the story (which it clearly isn't, and anyone who suggests it is...well...) I agree it's still dumb as feck.
 
Volumiza said:
No idea at present but I'm already trying to tie up a few loose ends so I can delete a few things ... goes without saying I reckon that this is going to be an ample sized game.
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Yeah my goal is to finish Battlefront and a few others before the 16th.
 
The review embargo lift date is on Friday at 08:01 UK time for anyone interested. Judging from all the pieces I've read leading up to this I'm expecting some high scores critically. Commercially it seems like it's going to do well, also, judging by the pre-order numbers.
 
BusbyMalone said:
The review embargo lift date is on Friday at 08:01 UK time for anyone interested. Judging from all the pieces I've read leading up to this I'm expecting some high scores critically. Commercially it seems like it's going to do well, also, judging by the pre-order numbers.
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of course it will. Most people don't give a feck about a tiny little butthurt section of the internet.

the funny thing is reviewers will probably feel like they have to give higher scores so they're not seen as being in agreement with them!
 
Massive Spanner said:
of course it will. Most people don't give a feck about a tiny little butthurt section of the internet.

the funny thing is reviewers will probably feel like they have to give higher scores so they're not seen as being in agreement with them!
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And that's what the people who are seemingly apoplectic about the story (although we know it's not all to do with the story) will say! Saying that I don't think reviewers will do that. This game was probably going to review quite well anyway. Be interested to see it gets any perfect scores though. I don't know why, but I'm not sure if it's going to review as well as the first one. I have no basis for this opinion; just a gut thing.
 
Ended up knocking it down to easy because I CBA replaying the same parts :lol: doesn't seem any easier tbh, just killed that bloater (first one in game) and it was annoying, can shoot it loads of doesn't do much it appears.

Also the little zombie dudes, whenever you get rushed and start to bash a skull in another one always grabs you , any tips?
 
MaxiPaxi said:
Oh, how this thread is going to bang after the actual game releases and people realise the anger from the guys that seen the leaks had nothing to do with sexual orientation or identity politics.
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Not so sure about that. I saw parts of leak as some moron messaged on Reddit. Didn't find any issue with whatever I read. Previews from reviewers I trust ( or you can say my taste match with them) , have been praising the game non stop.
 


For those interested. It seems like they aren't touching big spoilers or leaks.
He isn't as negative as the image implies from what I've heard in 7 minutes.
 
I'm sure those who insisted their objections were to the story rather than any anti-SJW agenda will now reflect on why their hastily formed opinion of a game they hadn't actually played was so out of touch with critical consensus, perhaps pondering the wisdom of judging a story without actually having played through that story.

And they certainly won't say the good reviews are just a reflection of the "agenda" they so strenuously claimed not to care about. Peace and good will to all, I'm sure.
 
Got an Essential on Eurogamer, so it seems like reviews are coming out everywhere now. I just hope this doesn't open the spoiler floodgates now, it's still a week until release! :nervous:
 
sullydnl said:
I'm sure those who insisted their objections were to the story rather than any anti-SJW agenda will now reflect on why their hastily formed opinion of a game they hadn't actually played was so out of touch with critical consensus, perhaps pondering the wisdom of judging a story without actually having played through that story.

And they certainly won't say the good reviews are just a reflection of the agenda they so strenuously claimed not to care about. Peace and good will to all, I'm sure.
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Unfortunately there are a couple who will be steadfast in their criticism.
 
sullydnl said:
I'm sure those who insisted their objections were to the story rather than any anti-SJW agenda will now reflect on why their hastily formed opinion of a game they hadn't actually played was so out of touch with critical consensus, perhaps pondering the wisdom of judging a story without actually having played through that story.

And they certainly won't say the good reviews are just a reflection of the "agenda" they so strenuously claimed not to care about. Peace and good will to all, I'm sure.
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They will of course point out that Naughty Dog games tend to get high review scores, and won't omit that information out of their accusations.
 
For those who bought it digitally it can be pre downloaded as of today and its about 78gig.
 
Massive Spanner said:
95 on metcritic, no surprises there.

Gamespot however, like the first game, gave it an 8.

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/th...lerfree/1900-6417483/#comments-block-33496709

Their review is odd though, she seems to care far more about how violent it is than the actual gameplay itself.

EDIT: polygon were pretty negative, too: https://www.polygon.com/reviews/202...-2-review-ps4-naughty-dog-ellie-joel-violence
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GameSpot review was so weird. It's like she picked a game for kids and was shocked to see violence.
 
pratyush_utd said:
GameSpot review was so weird. It's like she picked a game for kids and was shocked to see violence.
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There are a few like that. Most other reviewers say the violence is necessary to the story and character building so it seems odd. if you can't play an 18+ video game without being offended by the violence then maybe you shouldn't be reviewing it.
 
Massive Spanner said:
95 on metcritic, no surprises there.

Gamespot however, like the first game, gave it an 8.

https://www.gamespot.com/reviews/th...lerfree/1900-6417483/#comments-block-33496709

Their review is odd though, she seems to care far more about how violent it is than the actual gameplay itself.

EDIT: polygon were pretty negative, too: https://www.polygon.com/reviews/202...-2-review-ps4-naughty-dog-ellie-joel-violence
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weird those two reviews esp. polygon's. It almost seems like they are reviewing it as a movie than as a game.
 
IGN gave it a perfect 10 as well. The first game was an experience, it wasn't enjoyable, this isn't Uncharted although it has its moments of joy like the scene where Ellie and Joel see giraffes etc but if you are a bit melancholic and thinking person, it immerses and drains a lot out of you.
 
Wow, I'm surprised by the incredible scores. 10/10 by IGN and many others.

Although Skill Up seemed to dislike it and I think he's genuinely excellent reviewer. Looking forward to ACG.
 
Easy allies 9.5 as well.

So then it's not the complete mess as all the presumably right wing experts thought it would be?
 
Hate has already started to pour in. I wonder if these are even PlayStation players because it's so insane. It's almost as if Naughty Dog has personally wronged them. I am glad this has got such great reviews.
 
Seems like a lot of 9 and 10s coming out. Feels like they seems to have to give it a high score or they are homophobic, hope it’s because it’s a damn good game, you know what IGN are like. IGN japan gave an honest assessment about the game and gave it a 7. Talked about the story and character part lacking. I’m still excited to play this game.
 
Wait, so the whole gaming world is mad, because
the girl is lesbian?
Gamers are such nerds :lol:
 
AaronRedDevil said:
Seems like a lot of 9 and 10s coming out. Feels like they seems to have to give it a high score or they are homophobic, hope it’s because it’s a damn good game, you know what IGN are like. IGN japan gave an honest assessment about the game and gave it a 7. Talked about the story and character part lacking. I’m still excited to play this game.
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This game aside, Gamespot and IGN are most unreliable game reviewers out there. Their scores are just a mess. Gamespot gave Days Gone a terrible score because a lady who reviewed it didn't like something ridiculous about main character, him being too macho or some shit like that. And IGN is just...unpredictable. ACG and reviewers who don't give a number to their reviews are much better to watch.


KirkDuyt said:
Wait, so the whole gaming world is mad, because
the girl is lesbian?
Gamers are such nerds :lol:
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Nope, that in spoilers was known long ago, people are upset because of some story decisions and directions.

And I expected high scores from mainstream reviewers, this is nothing strange.
 
evil_geko said:
This game aside, Gamespot and IGN are most unreliable game reviewers out there. Their scores are just a mess. Gamespot gave Days Gone a terrible score because a lady who reviewed it didn't like something ridiculous about main character, him being macho or some shit like that. And IGN is just...unpredictable. ACG and reviewers who don't give a number to their reviews are much better to watch.




Nope, that in spoilers was known long ago, people are upset because of some story decisions and directions.

And I expected high scores from mainstream reviewers, this is nothing strange.
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Yeah I always trust ACG. I very rarely disagree with him.
 
AaronRedDevil said:
Seems like a lot of 9 and 10s coming out. Feels like they seems to have to give it a high score or they are homophobic, hope it’s because it’s a damn good game, you know what IGN are like. IGN japan gave an honest assessment about the game and gave it a 7. Talked about the story and character part lacking. I’m still excited to play this game.
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Oh come on :lol:
 
Gamespot reviewer is Kallie, same who did that terrible Days Gone review. :lol:
 
evil_geko said:
This game aside, Gamespot and IGN are most unreliable game reviewers out there. Their scores are just a mess. Gamespot gave Days Gone a terrible score because a lady who reviewed it didn't like something ridiculous about main character, him being too macho or some shit like that. And IGN is just...unpredictable. ACG and reviewers who don't give a number to their reviews are much better to watch.




Nope, that in spoilers was known long ago, people are upset because of some story decisions and directions.

And I expected high scores from mainstream reviewers, this is nothing strange.
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I used to write for IGN Benelux until a few years ago. People used to call me a shill in the comments too, saying I was probably paid off or just wanted to conform to the mainstream opinion, but, well, I wish developers paid me. Wouldnt have sold my soul to a career in recruitment if they had.

Reviews are always subjective. I don't understand why people feel that's bad. There's no such thing as an objective review, unless you just post a list of specs. I outgrew the videogame wars a bit, but the accusations of shilling and vice versa are so silly.

That being said, I have no idea if this is a good game. Though I will get it anyway. Even if it's shite, Ill just by it to own the (what's the oplosite of libs)?
 
That is the game’s central problem, and what makes so much of it such a challenge to get through: This is a story about characters who seem unable to learn or grow, and more specifically, unable to consider the humanity of the people they kill. If you already think violence isn’t the answer to many of the world’s problems, the repeated lesson that killing is bad makes the game almost maddening.


I don’t have any problem empathizing with the people who I’m asked to kill in video games. The Last of Us Part 2must think I’ll struggle with it, though, since it doles out all sorts of reasons why I should feel regret about the murder spree its characters have embarked upon. But the game’s larger problem is that the characters themselves don’t ever seem able to catch up with me.

What’s worse is that the characterization of Ellie makes it seem like she should also understand this part of the journey. I kept expecting her to grow and turn away from a life of constant violence, but she never picks up on the obvious didactic nature of the game she’s in, even as the designers beat you over the head with a very simple lesson about the value of human life.
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Polygon summed it up well for me. ND are trying to give me a lesson that life and certain actions have dire consequences but in reality I’m just looking for a game that is fun to play and gives me us fans of TLOU a bit of fan service. Again nothing to do with SWJ theme that some seemed to think that people had issue with. Although, it must be said some people are clearly taking issue with some characters in the game but a minority in my opinion.

Obviously can’t go into more detail about the excerpt from the review as it would reveal spoilers but I understand exactly what they reviewer is talking about.
 
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MaxiPaxi said:
Polygon summed it up well for me. ND are trying to give me a lesson that life and certain actions have dire consequences but in reality I’m just looking for a game that is fun to play and gives me us fans of TLOU a bit of fan service. Again nothing to do with SWJ theme that some seemed to think that people had issue with. Although, it must be said some people are clearly taking issue with some characters in the game but a minority in my opinion.
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And why wouldn't you get those things from this game? Reviews so far seem to accept gameplay is very good.

What life lessons exactly do you suggest they are forcing onto you?
 
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