Oh damn. Can't wait now.
Gaming The Last of Us Part II (PS4)
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Oh damn. Can't wait now.
I never fully got the appeal of the original game outside of it being well executed post apocalyptic themes and ambience. It’s a fairly competent game for what it is but it’s nothing special. Its like Naughty Dog watched Manhunt by Rockstar Games, then put it into their Uncharted engine, base it on Cormac McCarthy’s The Road, add Zombies and remove the John Carpenter-esque score.... Heck you can even do evil, brutal Manhunt like executions on players with weapons in the multiplayer mode of TLOU.
Plus the way that game ended... there’s no other way you could take it with those characters. Their story is pretty much done at the end of that game. Personally they should have done a completely different perspective in a sequel (especially with a name like The Last Of Us)... do a soldier on the opposing side and show how they view things, do something far into the future or in the past. They had this vast universe they could operate in and they decided to go back to the two protagonists of the first one even though their story was done.
The gameplay I’ve seen doesnt like anything special or progressive to the first one. It looks more of the same to me. I get the feeling this game is going to be one of those pieces of media where professional reviewers will hold it up and revere it more for its progressive political nature rather than it being a good game where you have fun and have replayability to it, then the average gamer opinion are going to be just meh and some will be pissed off for shoving too much politics into a game, which I can understand.
To me, it just doesn’t look like a game that I want to play because I feel like I’ve already played it before, like any Assassins Creed game after Black Flag.
Plus the way that game ended... there’s no other way you could take it with those characters. Their story is pretty much done at the end of that game. Personally they should have done a completely different perspective in a sequel (especially with a name like The Last Of Us)... do a soldier on the opposing side and show how they view things, do something far into the future or in the past. They had this vast universe they could operate in and they decided to go back to the two protagonists of the first one even though their story was done.
The gameplay I’ve seen doesnt like anything special or progressive to the first one. It looks more of the same to me. I get the feeling this game is going to be one of those pieces of media where professional reviewers will hold it up and revere it more for its progressive political nature rather than it being a good game where you have fun and have replayability to it, then the average gamer opinion are going to be just meh and some will be pissed off for shoving too much politics into a game, which I can understand.
To me, it just doesn’t look like a game that I want to play because I feel like I’ve already played it before, like any Assassins Creed game after Black Flag.
Fair point, guess it also depends on the channels people frequent etc.. and I generally avoid places like twitter and youtube like they have the plague. The game does indeed look amazing. My biggest concern is that the gameplay won't hold up. Gameplay in pt1 was imho clunky, this one looks really smooth but gameplay trailers have a knack for that. If we get amazing gameplay the writing issues might not matter too much and just be a minor issue but if the gameplay isn't amazing the backlash could well get worse. I hope its good enough, either way though ND won't care, its going to sell by the truck load and possibly be the last mega game of this console generation.
I'm wondering if I get the digital version. Will it carry over to the ps5?.
That doesn't make any sense. If someone genuonely dislikes the story of a game that's reliant on its story, that's perfectly fine and there's daft about it. Also, disliking the direction a game is headed isn't necessarily the by product of being self entitled. It could be, but for some it may also just be the fact that they dont rate the story.
For TLOU to me it does seem as though many people are using their political agendas to bash it but given i can't say that it's the case for everyone. There can be those that simply think the leaks represent a lack of quality.
For me TLOU was an excellent game that was brilliant in terms of story telling and look/feel. The game play was fairly basic and that's why it's a game I rate highly without it being among my all time top 10/20.
But I have to admit the gameplay looks much better this time around based on the clips and it seems journalists who have played the game feel that way too.
I just don't understand you finding the game too samey or this being a deal breaking issue. Isn't that always how it is with sequels? Every GTA/RDR/TombRaider /other franchise is similar to the last one. A character change can be done but it's hardly as though Ellie was your usual game character. People did connect with her and she was still a kid in the original, so has an arc to go through
It's either you haven't read anything I've said properly, or you're just being deliberately obtuse. I've said multiple times that there is absolutely nothing wrong with liking or disliking the story. I don't care if you like it or not. I really don't. Not sure how many times I have to repeat it. I'm not accusing the people who read the leaks and didn't like it and are now not buying the game because of it being self-entitled. Do what you want - that's your prerogative.
I'm accusing the people who are behaving like bellends. Deliberately posting spoilers for others, sending threats to the studio and the people who work there. Littering every comment section with their bile and all-around trolling because they didn't like what the creators have done with the story (amongst other things). There's no justification for it. End of. If you're not partaking in this behavior then I'm obviously not talking about you am I. I might play the game when it comes out and hate the story myself. This is not a criticism of people who just simply don't like where the story is going based on the leaks. I may find it a little silly not to buy the game based on said leaks because, as I've already mentioned, there's a lot more to a video game than that. But that's just my opinion on that particular issue. It's completely fine and understandable if you think differently.
It's the other shit I have an issue with. Not sure how much clearer I can be.
Better be good as I never pre order any game because of launch price but this looks fantastic so I had to. I wish people just stop ruining it for everyone on twitter and Reddit.
To be fair I agree with most of what you're saying. In that post, the bolded sounded a bit generally aimed particularly towards the person you were conversion with, but I suppose I waided in half way through so may have misinterpreted.
I'm actually interested in see whether all this outrage is justified. Because thered been an absolute barrage of it.
Sounds admirably grim.
I don't really understand the complaints about the story, it actually sounds like something that makes a lot of sense for something like tlou.
I'm with you and having read the spoilers from what I remember it seems like a natural progression of the story ND is trying to tell. I was certainly intrigued by it and excited to play it.
I haven’t read anything, so please don’t even infer story points in response to this post. But from what I’ve heard the biggest uproar comes from edgy gamers who hate that naughty dog have included what they would term as ‘social justice’ issues. It’s happened before with other games, there’s a push back against representation in video games.
I rarely buy a game on the first day. Are any retailers more reliable than others to make sure it arrives on time?
Buy the digital version?
Usually find the PS store a bit of a rip but yeah, could do.
I find ShopTo and SimplyGames good for delivery. I haven't had many problems with them anyway. Not sure if anyone else has.
Cheers pal. I'll check them out.
As someone who has read the leaks and similar to many others fails to see what the fuss is about and why people have developed such a hatred of the game.
If one of the ones who claim is has nothing to do with agenda pushing and the like and is solely down to narrative decisions could PM me their explanation because honestly even the last season of GoT didn't get this level of vitriol from its fans.
If one of the ones who claim is has nothing to do with agenda pushing and the like and is solely down to narrative decisions could PM me their explanation because honestly even the last season of GoT didn't get this level of vitriol from its fans.
Just do what I do buy the codes from ShopTo.
ShopTo have £50 quid codes for £42. £80 codes for £69. £90 codes for £79 and £100 codes for £89.
I think cdkeys have the same prices.
Go to CD keys you can usually buy a Psn voucher that's worth 50ish for about 43.
Still haven't finished the first one, get so far through and just stop. Sure I've said I'm going to finish it about 400 times on here. I don't think I've finished it anyway, if I have I don't remember much of it.
So for the 401st time, I've got a week off work so going to complete it this week...
So for the 401st time, I've got a week off work so going to complete it this week...
The trailer with New Order cover has got me going big time. Can't wait.
Just about to start the first one now. Hopefully I make it past moving ladders about this time.
No dodge/roll mechanic?
it’s more of a stealth game mate. I’ve completed it on grounded without using any ammunition pretty much. Just sneaking past enemies. Though I did use a couple of YouTube tutorials for certain levels where you had to face an enemy.
Also I forgot about Robert, why the feck does he look exactly like Bronn from GoT but has a different voice actor 
So far, movement is weird, stealth kills are weird too, seems it just random if you get caught or they notice the bodies on the floor.
Yeah, I get that, but surely they don't expect you to manage to perfectly stealth everyone all the time? You're going to get seen at some point. It doesn't really give you an option imo. It's basically saying "do the game this way or die" ... Pretending it's letting you choose how you play through but really it's forcing your hand. Really can't be arsed stealthing 4-5 people, getting seen, and pretty much being dead because of that.
Amazing how games still leave enemies with infinite ammo but as soon as they die they have none to drop sorta ruins the immersion.
So far, movement is weird, stealth kills are weird too, seems it just random if you get caught or they notice the bodies on the floor.
Yeah, I get that, but surely they don't expect you to manage to perfectly stealth everyone all the time? You're going to get seen at some point. It doesn't really give you an option imo. It's basically saying "do the game this way or die" ... Pretending it's letting you choose how you play through but really it's forcing your hand. Really can't be arsed stealthing 4-5 people, getting seen, and pretty much being dead because of that.
Amazing how games still leave enemies with infinite ammo but as soon as they die they have none to drop
sorta ruins the immersion.Also I forgot about Robert, why the feck does he look exactly like Bronn from GoT but has a different voice actor
So far, movement is weird, stealth kills are weird too, seems it just random if you get caught or they notice the bodies on the floor.
Yeah, I get that, but surely they don't expect you to manage to perfectly stealth everyone all the time? You're going to get seen at some point. It doesn't really give you an option imo. It's basically saying "do the game this way or die" ... Pretending it's letting you choose how you play through but really it's forcing your hand. Really can't be arsed stealthing 4-5 people, getting seen, and pretty much being dead because of that.
Amazing how games still leave enemies with infinite ammo but as soon as they die they have none to drop
No I totally get you. The mechanics are flimsy at best. I think it was intentionally designed to be more slower compared to uncharted, however, unintentionally, the devs just made it more cumbersome if that makes sense — they didn’t do an excellent job on that front. The story, though - is absolutely superb, the world is lived in and just the whole setting is amazing, which makes this an incredible game IMO.
Yeah you could pretty much stealth all the wag through the game, by killing runners and creeping past clickers. Equip a brick or a bottle — press whatever button it is to aim — and hold. That way you will literally be silent and you’ll move past clickers with ease. But really, all of the stealthy parts are just trial and error as the enemies move in the same route every time. It’s mildly annoying more than anything. Also, agree with you about the ammo. Never understood that from ND when they usually pay so much attention to detail. They could have easily added a voiceover to npc saying they’re running low on ammo or something — so easy to fix.
Aye, heard the story is immense off just about everyone , so have to play through to see what it's about, especially as 2 is just around the corner.
Yeah, definitely feels very slow and cumbersome. Would say it hasn't aged well, but it's easy to forget this game is 7-8 years old. Can definitely tell it's age due to the movement.
Exactly, think it’s 7 years next week iirc and released for the last gen console. I would just explore and stop and do as many optional conversations, read letters scattered round in houses. It’s got decent back story so it definitely makes up for it. Looking at the previews of the part 2 — the mechanics are definitely going to be more polished this time.
The talking is a bit off for me too, I know it's designed in a way so it becomes muffled if you walk away, but seems poorly designed, miss half the convos just because they AI is anywhere but near me
Playing on a projector and sound coming from that, but iirc this was the same even with the TV. Might have to try headphones for it.
Playing on a projector and sound coming from that, but iirc this was the same even with the TV. Might have to try headphones for it.
I’m thinking of getting this game looks awesome but have never played the first one. How connected is this to the original? Will I be missing much? I know it’s a continuation of the story but hoping there isn’t too many references to the first game.
Well I bit the bullet. I pre ordered the game. I’m excited as hell about it and also nervous hah.
I'm sure you'll still enjoy it but without the emotional weight of what the main characters went through in the first game, I doubt it will have the same impact. The story was one of the main reasons for the first game's success so I'd at least familiarise yourself with it first. But, ideally, you want to blast through it in the next few days. Only £9 on the PS store and, despite showing its age a little, it's totally worth it.
I could steam my playthrough for you but you would be infuriated and quit watching after I stupidly died in the same place for the 11th time.
I urge you to play the first game. It's a masterpiece. Otherwise this game you'll be missing so much of the story and emotional connection with the characters and your experience will not be as good playing part 2. it's not a long game, 14 hours, just play it on easy
Yeah play it on easy, I'm on normal and I'm finding it a bit of a bastard.
How far are you in? It gets easier as you go.
Just met Bill.
Sick as hell of the combat already, seems to just do what it wants half the time, guns are pointless pretty much too.
Honestly stick with it, it will be worth it. Every aspect of the game develops after that. Customization, character development and pace. I've very rarely I replay games but have done with this one. Second half of the game is so much stronger.