The Impossible Draft

its funny, in another draft i tried to pick both thuram and tresor for similar reasons and it got completely shut down.
 
This is too tame, someone loose their rag and quit/threat to quit
 
OK, having read all arguments and though both sides have their valid points, it's time pick a choice. Here it is.

Country / Continent

- Only 6 per continent (place of birth) (All USSR breakaway countries will be considered Asia)

From OP, continents will be by place of birth. Guadalupe is part of France and not a separate country. For purposes of this draft, it will be considered France in all respects. Players born there will be considered French and irrespective of physical location, it will be considered part of Europe.

Suriname by modern times is a separate country. Players born there (irrespective of when) will be considered as Surinamese/South American.

Ineligible vs Invalid Picks

If you pick a Ineligible player (blocked list or already picked player), you have to re-pick again. Though others need not wait for you. The moment you post a ineligible pick your turn ends and next manager can make his pick. You can post your eligible pick whenever you are online.

Invalid picks - Players picked who are eligible in draft pool, but just cannot fit inside manager's squad will just be let back into the pool and manager will lose the pick for the turn. No replacements.
 
OK, having read all arguments and though both sides have their valid points, it's time pick a choice. Here it is.

Country / Continent



From OP, continents will be by place of birth. Guadalupe is part of France and not a separate country. For purposes of this draft, it will be considered France in all respects. Players born there will be considered French and irrespective of physical location, it will be considered part of Europe.

Ineligible vs Invalid Picks

If you pick a Ineligible player (blocked list or already picked player), you have to re-pick again. Though others need not wait for you. The moment you post a ineligible pick your turn ends and next manager can make his pick. You can post your eligible pick whenever you are online.

Invalid picks - Players picked who are eligible in draft pool, but just cannot fit inside manager's squad will just be let back into the pool and manager will lose the pick for the turn. No replacements.
Fair enough.

Surely though, this will be applicable from now on and not for the events happened before? Please confirm that I can re-pick.
 
Not really, in fact I happily accepted the action taken assuming it was all written somewhere, since it is not, it should not be applied in my case.

The rules are pretty clear on who you can have in your squad. And Zizinho is a no go. So your pick is invalid and you lose the turn.
The only grey area was whether Zizinho should be in pool or blocked and for now he stays in the pool. Should not affect any single team that much.
 
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Maxime Bossis

@Tuppet
 
Enigma: (1) Zico (2) G. Batistuta (3) P. Nedvěd (4) D. Santos (5) A. Shesternyov

P-Nut0712: (1) F. Puskas (2) L.Yashin (3) J.Tigana (4) J. Charles (5) B. Bremner

Gio: (1) P. R. Falcão (2) Z.Zidane (3) Z. Czibor (4) L. Kubala (5) A. Brehme

Charly: (1) D. Džajić (2) S.Kocsis (3) A. Nesta (4) W. Van Hanegem (5) A. Demyanenko

Pat Mustard: (1) Romario (2) J. Bozsik (3) G. Facchetti (4) D. Edwards (5) D. Godin

Brwned: (1) B. Moore (2) G. Meazza (3) M. Coluna (4) I. Netto (5) Amoros

2mufc0: (1) G. Scirea (2) R. Gullit (3) O. Varela (4) L. Junior (5) G. Nordahl

MJJ: (1) R. Baggio (2) G. Lato (3) Hidegkuti (4) S.Marzolini (5) E. Ocwirk

Tuppet: (1) D. Passarella (2) J. Masopust (3) O. Blokhin (4) L. Riva (5) K. H. Schnillenger

Prath92: (1) B. Robson (2) V. Voronin (3) D. Bergkamp (4) J. Zanetti (5) O. Ruggeri (6) M. Bossis

Ecstatic: (1) U. Seeler (2) N. Santos (3) L. Figo (4) Neymar (5) G. Bergomi (6) D. McGrain

Indnyc: (1) L. Thuram (2) R. Krol (3) D. Da Guia 4) A. Pedernera (5) J. Fontaine (6) E. Cantona

Sjor / Jim Beam: (1) B. Charlton (2) H. Chumpitaz (3) H. Stoichkov (4) P. Elkjaer (5) B. Schuster (6) B. Vogts

Idmanager: (1) F. Gento (2) S. Matthews (3) M.Tresor (4) K.H. Forster (5) E.Davids (6) T. Cubillas

Skizzo: (1) Sócrates (2) P. McGrath (3) M. Sammer (4) C. A. Torres (5) R. Van Nistelrooy (6) J. M. Moreno

Moby: (1) R. Keane (2) J. Neeskens (3) Rivelino (4) Jairzinho (5) Bican (6) Blocked

BLOCKED LIST:
A Di Stefano, C Ronaldo, D Maradona, Eusebio, E Figueroa, F Beckenbauer, F Baresi, F Rijkaard, Garrincha, G Muller, G Best, Johan Cruyff, L Messi, L Ronaldo, L Matthaus, M Platini, M van Basten, Pele, P Maldini
 
The rules are pretty clear on who you can have in your squad. And Zizinho is a no go. So your pick is invalid and you lose the turn.
The only grey area was whether Zizinho should be in pool or blocked and for now he stays in the pool. Should not affect any single team that much.

Let's avoid useless resentment.

You are the ruler who can pardon offenders and confer honours.

Authorize him to submit a new player so that we can move on.
 
Let's avoid useless resentment.

You are the ruler who can pardon offenders and confer honours.

Authorize him to submit a new player so that we can move on.

Makes the most sense. It's been clarified now so let's just take that ruling from here forward.
 
Suppose I better start considering my pick so I don't make the same mistakes
 
Where was losing a turn for picking an ineligible player mentioned?

you can't have Zizinho. You can't repick. what other choices do you think you have?

Let's avoid useless resentment.

You are the ruler who can pardon offenders and confer honours.

Authorize him to submit a new player so that we can move on.

Thanks to @Ecstatic and @P-Nut0712 I'll make an exception this time around. So go ahead and make a pick @Moby



warning to everyone else. Do not make wrong picks!
 
you can't have Zizinho. You can't repick. what other choices do you think you have?
That's because the rule in the OP contradict each other. You've said you cannot change your pick, and you cannot have ineligible player in the squad, both are not possible in the scenario where an ineligible player is picked.

However there is literally no mention of a manager losing an entire round. Something that has been enforced now (after 5.5 rounds are over). Based on that, the previous ineligible picks would end up in re-picks.
 
Enigma: (1) Zico (2) G. Batistuta (3) P. Nedvěd (4) D. Santos (5) A. Shesternyov

P-Nut0712: (1) F. Puskas (2) L.Yashin (3) J.Tigana (4) J. Charles (5) B. Bremner

Gio: (1) P. R. Falcão (2) Z.Zidane (3) Z. Czibor (4) L. Kubala (5) A. Brehme

Charly: (1) D. Džajić (2) S.Kocsis (3) A. Nesta (4) W. Van Hanegem (5) A. Demyanenko

Pat Mustard: (1) Romario (2) J. Bozsik (3) G. Facchetti (4) D. Edwards (5) D. Godin

Brwned: (1) B. Moore (2) G. Meazza (3) M. Coluna (4) I. Netto (5) Amoros

2mufc0: (1) G. Scirea (2) R. Gullit (3) O. Varela (4) L. Junior (5) G. Nordahl

MJJ: (1) R. Baggio (2) G. Lato (3) Hidegkuti (4) S.Marzolini (5) E. Ocwirk

Tuppet: (1) D. Passarella (2) J. Masopust (3) O. Blokhin (4) L. Riva (5) K. H. Schnillenger (6) T. Finney

Prath92: (1) B. Robson (2) V. Voronin (3) D. Bergkamp (4) J. Zanetti (5) O. Ruggeri (6) M. Bossis

Ecstatic: (1) U. Seeler (2) N. Santos (3) L. Figo (4) Neymar (5) G. Bergomi (6) D. McGrain

Indnyc: (1) L. Thuram (2) R. Krol (3) D. Da Guia 4) A. Pedernera (5) J. Fontaine (6) E. Cantona

Sjor / Jim Beam: (1) B. Charlton (2) H. Chumpitaz (3) H. Stoichkov (4) P. Elkjaer (5) B. Schuster (6) B. Vogts

Idmanager: (1) F. Gento (2) S. Matthews (3) M.Tresor (4) K.H. Forster (5) E.Davids (6) T. Cubillas

Skizzo: (1) Sócrates (2) P. McGrath (3) M. Sammer (4) C. A. Torres (5) R. Van Nistelrooy (6) J. M. Moreno

Moby: (1) R. Keane (2) J. Neeskens (3) Rivelino (4) Jairzinho (5) Bican (6) Blocked

BLOCKED LIST:
A Di Stefano, C Ronaldo, D Maradona, Eusebio, E Figueroa, F Beckenbauer, F Baresi, F Rijkaard, Garrincha, G Muller, G Best, Johan Cruyff, L Messi, L Ronaldo, L Matthaus, M Platini, M van Basten, Pele, P Maldini

@MJJ
 
Enigma: (1) Zico (2) G. Batistuta (3) P. Nedvěd (4) D. Santos (5) A. Shesternyov

P-Nut0712: (1) F. Puskas (2) L.Yashin (3) J.Tigana (4) J. Charles (5) B. Bremner

Gio: (1) P. R. Falcão (2) Z.Zidane (3) Z. Czibor (4) L. Kubala (5) A. Brehme

Charly: (1) D. Džajić (2) S.Kocsis (3) A. Nesta (4) W. Van Hanegem (5) A. Demyanenko

Pat Mustard: (1) Romario (2) J. Bozsik (3) G. Facchetti (4) D. Edwards (5) D. Godin

Brwned: (1) B. Moore (2) G. Meazza (3) M. Coluna (4) I. Netto (5) Amoros

2mufc0: (1) G. Scirea (2) R. Gullit (3) O. Varela (4) L. Junior (5) G. Nordahl

MJJ: (1) R. Baggio (2) G. Lato (3) Hidegkuti (4) S.Marzolini (5) E. Ocwirk

Tuppet: (1) D. Passarella (2) J. Masopust (3) O. Blokhin (4) L. Riva (5) K. H. Schnillenger (6) T. Finney

Prath92: (1) B. Robson (2) V. Voronin (3) D. Bergkamp (4) J. Zanetti (5) O. Ruggeri (6) M. Bossis

Ecstatic: (1) U. Seeler (2) N. Santos (3) L. Figo (4) Neymar (5) G. Bergomi (6) D. McGrain

Indnyc: (1) L. Thuram (2) R. Krol (3) D. Da Guia 4) A. Pedernera (5) J. Fontaine (6) E. Cantona

Sjor / Jim Beam: (1) B. Charlton (2) H. Chumpitaz (3) H. Stoichkov (4) P. Elkjaer (5) B. Schuster (6) B. Vogts

Idmanager: (1) F. Gento (2) S. Matthews (3) M.Tresor (4) K.H. Forster (5) E.Davids (6) T. Cubillas

Skizzo: (1) Sócrates (2) P. McGrath (3) M. Sammer (4) C. A. Torres (5) R. Van Nistelrooy (6) J. M. Moreno

Moby: (1) R. Keane (2) J. Neeskens (3) Rivelino (4) Jairzinho (5) Bican (6) E. Francescoli

BLOCKED LIST:
A Di Stefano, C Ronaldo, D Maradona, Eusebio, E Figueroa, F Beckenbauer, F Baresi, F Rijkaard, Garrincha, G Muller, G Best, Johan Cruyff, L Messi, L Ronaldo, L Matthaus, M Platini, M van Basten, Pele, P Maldini

@MJJ
 
Tuppet: (1) D. Passarella (2) J. Masopust (3) O. Blokhin (4) L. Riva (5) K. H. Schnillenger (6) T. Finney
Just lovely so far. I thought that Finney would be picked earlier though, considering the restrictions.
 
Got a feeling this could be the tightest draft ever so far. Not much to choose between the teams which is nice.
 
Enigma winning this.
Thanks mate but it’s way too early and many quality teams. Restrictions will also kick in probably in the next turn or so and the real drafting will begin.

Your team is pretty good yourself - I imagine 4-4-2, and that midfield is brilliant.:drool:

trying to salvage something. i seem to have reached an impasse :(
Bossis is a great pick at this stage. Can play all across the back line and hasn’t won anything of note.
 
Thanks mate but it’s way too early and many quality teams. Restrictions will also kick in probably in the next turn or so and the real drafting will begin.

Your team is pretty good yourself - I imagine 4-4-2, and that midfield is brilliant.:drool:


Bossis is a great pick at this stage. Can play all across the back line and hasn’t won anything of note.
Thanks bud. Yeah, that's a 4-4-2.
 
There’s 3 obvious favourites

I'm not so convinced at the moment. With the restrictions in play those that have slightly lesser teams at the moment will have free reign to improve as the drafting progresses.
 
Enigma: (1) Zico (2) G. Batistuta (3) P. Nedvěd (4) D. Santos (5) A. Shesternyov

P-Nut0712: (1) F. Puskas (2) L.Yashin (3) J.Tigana (4) J. Charles (5) B. Bremner

Gio: (1) P. R. Falcão (2) Z.Zidane (3) Z. Czibor (4) L. Kubala (5) A. Brehme

Charly: (1) D. Džajić (2) S.Kocsis (3) A. Nesta (4) W. Van Hanegem (5) A. Demyanenko

Pat Mustard: (1) Romario (2) J. Bozsik (3) G. Facchetti (4) D. Edwards (5) D. Godin

Brwned: (1) B. Moore (2) G. Meazza (3) M. Coluna (4) I. Netto (5) Amoros

2mufc0: (1) G. Scirea (2) R. Gullit (3) O. Varela (4) L. Junior (5) G. Nordahl

MJJ: (1) R. Baggio (2) G. Lato (3) Hidegkuti (4) S.Marzolini (5) E. Ocwirk (6) L. Monti

Tuppet: (1) D. Passarella (2) J. Masopust (3) O. Blokhin (4) L. Riva (5) K. H. Schnillenger (6) T. Finney

Prath92: (1) B. Robson (2) V. Voronin (3) D. Bergkamp (4) J. Zanetti (5) O. Ruggeri (6) M. Bossis

Ecstatic: (1) U. Seeler (2) N. Santos (3) L. Figo (4) Neymar (5) G. Bergomi (6) D. McGrain

Indnyc: (1) L. Thuram (2) R. Krol (3) D. Da Guia 4) A. Pedernera (5) J. Fontaine (6) E. Cantona


Sjor / Jim Beam: (1) B. Charlton (2) H. Chumpitaz (3) H. Stoichkov (4) P. Elkjaer (5) B. Schuster (6) B. Vogts

Idmanager: (1) F. Gento (2) S. Matthews (3) M.Tresor (4) K.H. Forster (5) E.Davids (6) T. Cubillas

Skizzo: (1) Sócrates (2) P. McGrath (3) M. Sammer (4) C. A. Torres (5) R. Van Nistelrooy (6) J. M. Moreno

Moby: (1) R. Keane (2) J. Neeskens (3) Rivelino (4) Jairzinho (5) Bican (6) Blocked

BLOCKED LIST:
A Di Stefano, C Ronaldo, D Maradona, Eusebio, E Figueroa, F Beckenbauer, F Baresi, F Rijkaard, Garrincha, G Muller, G Best, Johan Cruyff, L Messi, L Ronaldo, L Matthaus, M Platini, M van Basten, Pele, P Maldini

@MJJ

@2mufc0
 
Zizinho

Can someone update the list pls.

@Brwned
 
Enigma: (1) Zico (2) G. Batistuta (3) P. Nedvěd (4) D. Santos (5) A. Shesternyov

P-Nut0712: (1) F. Puskas (2) L. Yashin (3) J. Tigana (4) J. Charles (5) B. Bremner

Gio: (1) P. R. Falcão (2) Z.Zidane (3) Z. Czibor (4) L. Kubala (5) A. Brehme

Charly: (1) D. Džajić (2) S.Kocsis (3) A. Nesta (4) W. Van Hanegem (5) A. Demyanenko

Pat Mustard: (1) Romario (2) J. Bozsik (3) G. Facchetti (4) D. Edwards (5) D. Godin

Brwned: (1) B. Moore (2) G. Meazza (3) M. Coluna (4) I. Netto (5) Amoros

2mufc0: (1) G. Scirea (2) R. Gullit (3) O. Varela (4) L. Junior (5) G. Nordahl (6) Zizinho

MJJ: (1) R. Baggio (2) G. Lato (3) Hidegkuti (4) S. Marzolini (5) E. Ocwirk (6) L. Monti

Tuppet: (1) D. Passarella (2) J. Masopust (3) O. Blokhin (4) L. Riva (5) K. H. Schnillenger (6) T. Finney

Prath92: (1) B. Robson (2) V. Voronin (3) D. Bergkamp (4) J. Zanetti (5) O. Ruggeri (6) M. Bossis

Ecstatic: (1) U. Seeler (2) N. Santos (3) L. Figo (4) Neymar (5) G. Bergomi (6) D. McGrain

Indnyc: (1) L. Thuram (2) R. Krol (3) D. Da Guia 4) A. Pedernera (5) J. Fontaine (6) E. Cantona

Sjor / Jim Beam: (1) B. Charlton (2) H. Chumpitaz (3) H. Stoichkov (4) P. Elkjaer (5) B. Schuster (6) B. Vogts

Idmanager: (1) F. Gento (2) S. Matthews (3) M. Tresor (4) K.H. Forster (5) E. Davids (6) T. Cubillas

Skizzo: (1) Sócrates (2) P. McGrath (3) M. Sammer (4) C. A. Torres (5) R. Van Nistelrooy (6) J. M. Moreno

Moby: (1) R. Keane (2) J. Neeskens (3) Rivelino (4) Jairzinho (5) J. Bican (6) E. Francescoli

BLOCKED LIST:
A Di Stefano, C Ronaldo, D Maradona, Eusebio, E Figueroa, F Beckenbauer, F Baresi, F Rijkaard, Garrincha, G Muller, G Best, Johan Cruyff, L Messi, L Ronaldo, L Matthaus, M Platini, M van Basten, Pele, P Maldini
 
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Enigma: (1) Zico (2) G. Batistuta (3) P. Nedvěd (4) D. Santos (5) A. Shesternyov

P-Nut0712: (1) F. Puskas (2) L. Yashin (3) J. Tigana (4) J. Charles (5) B. Bremner

Gio: (1) P. R. Falcão (2) Z.Zidane (3) Z. Czibor (4) L. Kubala (5) A. Brehme

Charly: (1) D. Džajić (2) S.Kocsis (3) A. Nesta (4) W. Van Hanegem (5) A. Demyanenko

Pat Mustard: (1) Romario (2) J. Bozsik (3) G. Facchetti (4) D. Edwards (5) D. Godin

Brwned: (1) B. Moore (2) G. Meazza (3) M. Coluna (4) I. Netto (5) Amoros (6) Julinho

2mufc0: (1) G. Scirea (2) R. Gullit (3) O. Varela (4) L. Junior (5) G. Nordahl (6) Zizinho

MJJ: (1) R. Baggio (2) G. Lato (3) Hidegkuti (4) S. Marzolini (5) E. Ocwirk (6) L. Monti

Tuppet: (1) D. Passarella (2) J. Masopust (3) O. Blokhin (4) L. Riva (5) K. H. Schnillenger (6) T. Finney

Prath92: (1) B. Robson (2) V. Voronin (3) D. Bergkamp (4) J. Zanetti (5) O. Ruggeri (6) M. Bossis

Ecstatic: (1) U. Seeler (2) N. Santos (3) L. Figo (4) Neymar (5) G. Bergomi (6) D. McGrain

Indnyc: (1) L. Thuram (2) R. Krol (3) D. Da Guia 4) A. Pedernera (5) J. Fontaine (6) E. Cantona

Sjor / Jim Beam: (1) B. Charlton (2) H. Chumpitaz (3) H. Stoichkov (4) P. Elkjaer (5) B. Schuster (6) B. Vogts

Idmanager: (1) F. Gento (2) S. Matthews (3) M. Tresor (4) K.H. Forster (5) E. Davids (6) T. Cubillas

Skizzo: (1) Sócrates (2) P. McGrath (3) M. Sammer (4) C. A. Torres (5) R. Van Nistelrooy (6) J. M. Moreno

Moby: (1) R. Keane (2) J. Neeskens (3) Rivelino (4) Jairzinho (5) J. Bican (6) E. Francescoli

@Pat_Mustard
 
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