The lack of movement on the McKenna front today - makes me think it is him
The Guardian - Manchester United to sack Erik ten Hag after the FA Cup Final
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The Dutch league is very weak and I don't think he was able to adapt to the PL.
It's the right decision, Erik only has himself to blame and he's shown no accountability to do so given his reflective assessment of why the season has fallen apart.
The team looked disjointed in pre season and it has translated into the league campaign. 6 games into the season I estimated the team finishing 6th even that minimalist expectation was upended.
INEOS provisionally looking at Mckenna, irrespective if it works out its the right project, young and upcoming manager who has outdone himself thus far. Get a plethora of younger players through the door so they are susceptible to learning and can implement instructions.
The team looked disjointed in pre season and it has translated into the league campaign. 6 games into the season I estimated the team finishing 6th even that minimalist expectation was upended.
INEOS provisionally looking at Mckenna, irrespective if it works out its the right project, young and upcoming manager who has outdone himself thus far. Get a plethora of younger players through the door so they are susceptible to learning and can implement instructions.
Fuming at this, it's horrible
Correct decision but so fecking disrespectful for this to be coming out the day before the game. Achieves nothing.
Definitely forced our hand for McKenna, pretty obvious it will be him as well. Hope we give McKenna time, it's a big step and we can't panic over bad runs through him the first few years.
This decision was made months ago.
Ineos have been working on a shortlist of candidates for months.
This is common knowledge in the football world.
About time.
HOWEVER, as much as I wanted him gone why the hell wait until the day before the final? Or if decided earlier, why not keep the leaks down for one more day?
Now we get the worst of both worlds; the players know he's gone before the most important game of the season but we also didn't get the benefit of a better manager to get us CL football.
HOWEVER, as much as I wanted him gone why the hell wait until the day before the final? Or if decided earlier, why not keep the leaks down for one more day?
Now we get the worst of both worlds; the players know he's gone before the most important game of the season but we also didn't get the benefit of a better manager to get us CL football.
Let’s go gamers
Is this news to you? Did you think he wasn't going to be sacked?
Scandalous this all coming out now. It doesn't sit right with me, and unlike the previous managers. I'm not convinced it's the right call.
Ultimately if this is true, he will feel hard done by with everything he has had to face. All the injuries, financial problems, lack of l structure and uncertainty regarding the takeover situation. Possibly the hardest period of time to manage the club for over 50 years, and certainly the hardest post Sir Alex. I do feel his lack of adaptability to playing a tighter system will have cost him if it's true. You can't let teams, including from League 1, waltz through the midfield and have shot after shot at goal. He can argue that the system would work with everyone available, and maybe it would. But you do probably need to find a way to work around it when you don't have your ideal circumstances, and he never really did that this year. Apart from maybe the last 3 games.
Ultimately if this is true, he will feel hard done by with everything he has had to face. All the injuries, financial problems, lack of l structure and uncertainty regarding the takeover situation. Possibly the hardest period of time to manage the club for over 50 years, and certainly the hardest post Sir Alex. I do feel his lack of adaptability to playing a tighter system will have cost him if it's true. You can't let teams, including from League 1, waltz through the midfield and have shot after shot at goal. He can argue that the system would work with everyone available, and maybe it would. But you do probably need to find a way to work around it when you don't have your ideal circumstances, and he never really did that this year. Apart from maybe the last 3 games.
Obviously the correct decision. He can count himself fortunate to have lasted this long.
Bloody awful manager, unfortunately.
Bloody awful manager, unfortunately.
Left it too late for a new manager bounce I think, so shitty timing frankly. It's all very well saying it should have been done months ago, but it wasn't. I only hope that Erik has known this for sometime and it isn't news to him or the squad just before tomorrow. Fingers crossed it galvanises a performance (assuming it's even true, Guardian aren't gospel).
Would definitely say it seems like we've had to rush with everything going on.
Do you really think the players give a shit about the manager leaving 24 hours before the biggest game of the season? They’ve known for months.
Unfortunate timing, but it's absolutely the right thing to not let one game influence the decision too much.The usual fan(kultist) accounts are acting like North Korea
If I had to put down a bet I'd say McKenna as well. I just hope he's got the personality for it!
Can’t say this is the wrong move but bad way to leak before the cup final.
What's so funny? If you enjoy this type of behaviour maybe go and support Chelsea or one of the other shite
Can anyone think of one good reason with the timing here? One thing? How are Ineos any different to Glazers here?
Is this guy reliable? Could be a City plant to derail us before the cup final for all we know.
The media trying to destabilize utd, just before a cup final. This should be enough for every single utd fan to unite. Get behind the manager and the team.
Because Chelsea treats their managers with utmost class and dignity
take break mate, your having a mareSacking him for McKenna is a bit silly. Has to be Tuchel or Poch. Good timing on the story too
They aren't. Pretty much all of us have predicted this is going to happen. A journalist says the same thing. Now you're painting it as some kind of disaster and I find it weird.
It's rotten. But how do we know what this guy is saying is true?
What behaviour? You’re jumping to massive conclusions because you want to believe something. You know for sure it wasn’t Erik himself who told the press he was off? Or does that not suit your narrative?I really hope someone told Ten Hag before this leaked...
That's the point... looks like you're the one having a mareBecause Chelsea treats their managers with utmost class and dignity
Sadly you can’t trust our medical team to correctly supply him with Imodium
Awful awful timing. with a massive cup final tomorrow
This has actually pissed me off a bit. It means player power has won again.
If they are being ruthless with the manager, they better be ruthless with this group of useless players. Cause we will be back in this same position in 12-18 months time without a doubt
This has actually pissed me off a bit. It means player power has won again.
If they are being ruthless with the manager, they better be ruthless with this group of useless players. Cause we will be back in this same position in 12-18 months time without a doubt
Can’t stop the leaks, that’s the problem. This news isn’t coming from us, and we have to talk to new managers now because of the way the market has opened up. It’s almost impossible to keep talks quiet as a number of people have to be involved. If we’re talking to McKenna then we have to go through Ipswich, and agents, etc. It’s practically impossible to keep a secret. The alternative is we drag our heels and watch the bets available managers go to other clubs.
The Glazers' issue hasn't been them sacking managers or the way they sack them.
Why in the feck would Erik leak this before such a huge match? He gains nothing. This has obviously come from the club.
Yep. It's likely the decision was made ages ago but United were planning on waiting until the end of the season before making any moves. Chelsea sacking Poch has basically set everything in motion and it's hard to keep it quiet when you're reaching out to multiple candidates.
Steinberg is very, very close to Pochettino - goes right back to when he was at Southampton.
The fact that a London-based journalist is getting this before any of our beat journalists indicates it didn't come from the club.
Pochettino's incestous relationship with the media has always been a big black mark against him for me.
The fact that a London-based journalist is getting this before any of our beat journalists indicates it didn't come from the club.
Pochettino's incestous relationship with the media has always been a big black mark against him for me.
Then you've missed the point and I dont know how to explain any simpler.
This getting leaked to disrupt us before the cup final was obviously predictable. It could have easily been avoided by sacking him or announcing his departure at the time the decision was made. Not doing that was amateurish by Ineos.
There is absolutely no logical reason for the club to leak this to anyone.
Guardian rarely get the big things wrong and the way they've written it is so sure. If there was doubt, you would expect 'could be' or 'set to'. But they've written it matter of factly. Steinberg reported that Moyes was going to be sacked from West Ham last month.
It's also not that surprising news either.
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