Sir Bobby Charlton superb player and clubs greatest. George was the most giftedfootballer I have ever seen and fondly remembered if his personal problems had not got in the way who knows what he could have achieved.
The greatest Manchester United player
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I didn't think we won 1-0.So you missed his goal in the final then?
So Ronaldos not on the pitch and we lose 1-0. Cool.
I don't think that's how it works.
But if Van Der Sar doesn't save the penalty or Giggs doesn't score his penalty maybe we lose the shoot-out? Maybe Scholes doesn't score in the Semi-Final we don't go through? Maybe it's not all down to Ronaldo?
Dont be daft, it was ALL Ronaldo, we were a one man team,right?
That said, great header in the final - but what is it with modern football fans, they seem to support the PLAYER more than the club, being absolutely obsessed with Ronnie/Rooney etc?
I don't think that's a modern phenomenon. Your forum name and mine for that matter both refer to players from bygone eras who ended up leaving the club and playing elsewhere. I think there's always been players that fans gravitate towards for one reason or another. I loved to watch George play, and even when he went to Fulham I'd try and catch his games if they were on TV. In the modern day game, I always had a soft spot for Ruud, Javier Hernandez and Ronaldo. If they were on TV and I was around I'd try and catch their games as well even after they left. Same with a number of other players in between. It never lessened my support for the club. I just think it's human nature that if somebody does something that you appreciate talent wise, that appreciation never really goes away entirely no matter the circumstances.
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You're seriously deluding yourself if you think The World Player of the Year that season didn't influence our chances of winning the Champions League.
Nobodys saying the rest didn't contribute. I'm just saying Ronaldo's contribution was greater.
Best
Eric Djemba-Djemba, the Roy Keane prodigy
Ole. Always been #1 for me.
Your mad. He's not even top ten
No, you said that he won us the CL, not that he was our most influencing player in that CL run. While Ixion said that there were many other players and factors who played crucial part in us winning it - Scholes' goal against Barca, our flawless backline, van der Sar saving the penalty, Terry slipping etc.
In no order.
Charlton
Best
Giggs
Scholes
Cantona
Beckham
Rio
Schmiechel
law
Dunc
Charlton
Best
Giggs
Scholes
Cantona
Beckham
Rio
Schmiechel
law
Dunc
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Ronaldo
Rooney
Keane
Sharpe
Irwin
Robson
Ince.. I'll give you that one
RVP
RvN
Rooney
Keane
Sharpe
Irwin
Robson
Ince.. I'll give you that one
RVP
RvN
That's twenty
Charlton.
Yeah I'd be cool with any one of those.
Me too.couldn't pick one tbh.
This thread needs a poll, but for me you can't look further than Bobby Charlton. The only person to come close is Giggs.
Please don't add a poll, I couldn't bear to see all the votes cast for Ronaldo over the likes of Charlton, Edwards, Giggs and Best.
I think we all may have different perspectives of the question asked. If it was 'most talented player' Ronaldo ranks right up with any of them in my opinion. But for 'United's Greatest' I instantly think Charlton, Best, Cantona, Giggs, Rooney before Ronaldo. He was excellent at United, but he's been at RM too long now for me.
What puts Edwards over Ronaldo? Genuine question.
Edwards died when he was 21. Before he could really set the world alight.
Let's be honest, it's either Charlton or Best.
Charlton in all likelihood.
Charlton in all likelihood.
Again I think it's how those of us frame the question asked. Sir Bobby said Edwards was the best player he ever played with or saw. I've seen video clips and wow, what a player he was. Big, strong, fast, smooth two footed striker. Looked more like a modern player physically. Shame he died so young and his body of work is so limited to judge, but he truly had phenomenal talent.
i'm too young for best/chartlon and the likes so i go with giggs
Maradona Good, Pele Better, George Best
Youre a truly special player when you get compared with those two
Youre a truly special player when you get compared with those two
When I think of 'greatest" player it implies more to me than just what you did on the pitch. Sure that goes a long way, but it also includes your overall impact on the club. Who is that one player that when you think of Manchester United you also think of them? George was and probably always will be my favorite player, he even has a dog in the race for best player too, but George almost achieved "anti-hero" status. He smoked too much, he drank too much, and was a serial womanizer. He was a legend "on the pitch", but Bobby is more than that. He is 79 years old and made his debut for the club over 60 years ago and yet still he is talked about as that one player that people most associate with the club. I said it earlier. There's only one answer to who is the greatest player that's ever played for Manchester United. It's Sir Bob - it just is.
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For players that I've actually seen? Ronaldo.
Can't necessarily speak for players I never watched, but I would say George Best based on my knowledge.
Can't necessarily speak for players I never watched, but I would say George Best based on my knowledge.
Sir Bobby = Biggest Legend
George Best = Best Player
George Best = Best Player
In no particular order
Best
Charlton
Edwards
Giggs
Keane
Scholes
Cantona
Best
Charlton
Edwards
Giggs
Keane
Scholes
Cantona
It would probably be Charlton. With honourable mentions to Scholes, Giggs and Best.
He never got to live up to the potential. Its like saying Ravel Morrison is up there cause Pogba also said he was the best player hes played with and everyone looked up to him. You can't really put these players on the list purely because another good player said they were great.
Ronaldo at United was more successful than Edwards. Its unfortunate he died but Ronaldo belongs on the GOAT list, whether you like him or not.
I sometimes wonder if (god forbid) someone like Luke Shaw died. Hes in a similar boat to Edwards. Similar position and age and massive potential. Maybe not as talented but as an example.... If he died tomorrow, would people say he was one of the best... purely because of his potential and "what could have been"?
I kinda, sorta, might, possibly, maybe understand where you're coming from.....almost, but Luke Shaw is an absolutely awful comparison. The year before he died Duncan had finished 3rd in the Ballon d'Or. He was already at 20 considered to be one of the best players in the World. Luke Shaw may one day turn out to be the best left back at OT.
Well to be fair, I've read posts on this forum which have people claiming Shaw is the best left back in the world or at least very soon would be and that's when he is just crocked so imagine what level he could get to in some people's eyes if he died! Right now Shaw will do well to actually have a career as a professional footballer nevermind anything else.
Well, he actually wasn't "on my list", I was just commenting about him and his abilities. For me it's Sir Bobby as I mentioned well upstream.
And I'm a fan of Ronaldo's. I think he is in the argument of being the GOAT. I respect and admired everything he did and wish he was still at United. That said, there won't be any statues or grandstands named after him at OT.
He was more talented than Charlton or Giggs by miles.
Is this thread "The Most Talented Manchester United Player" ?
No it's not, but it depends what you view the word "great" to mean. Obviously a great player is going to be talented and in terms of talent Ronaldo blows most players out of the water.
Not sure that any player can realistically be more talented than Charlton "by miles". He was voted as the 10th best player of the 20th century by IFFHS, for example (and by multiple other lists), he is one of the only three midfielders to won Ballon D'Or (and he finished runner up twice). He won the World Cup destroying a side with Eusebio and Coluna in the semi-finals and orchestrated the England's win in the final while being marked by the best defensive (well, not attacking) player of all-time. He was England's and Manchester United's all-time top scorer until recently while only playing as a forward for a few years at the beginning of his career.
Ronaldo is a better goalscorer, Charlton was a better passer. Hard to compare their dribbling as Ronaldo's dribbling skills mysteriously disappeared at some point, although as a youngster he probably showed more skill than Charlton. I'd rate Charlton's long distance efforts higher than Ronaldo's too (despite both of them being an alltime greats at this component). Charlton was a better leader and an ultimate team player, and showed his best level against an all-time greats.