The First Redcafe NBA Draft
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Second time this draft...So do I. In fact, I think that it is by far, my strongest part of the team.
Agree. Offense wins matches, defense wins rings.
Though I really did enjoy reading up about Richmond. Forgotten player, really.
I love reading about Tony Allen
1. Skizzo: Shaq, Wade, Payton, Draymond, Kawhi, Green, Iguodala, Williams, Bogut
2. Revan: Kobe, Kidd, Gasol, Mutombo, George, Artest, Yao, Stoudemire, Crawford
3. Skills: LeBron, Pippen, CP3, Ewing, Reggie Miller, Harden, Aldridge, DeAndre Jordan, Mike Miller
4. NM: Duncan, Robinson, Stockton, Pierce, Ginobili, Richmond, Horford, Rondo, Camby
5. RD: Olajuwon, Webber, Nash, McGrady, Marion, Melo, Mourning, Bowen, Butler
6. Mani: Malone, Iverson, Parker, Howard, Hill, Fisher, Drexler, Allen
7. Eboue: Curry, Nowitzki, Carter, Davis, Thompson, Peja, Barkley, Chandler
8: MJJ: Garnett, Durant, Allen, Westbrook, Wallace, Rodman, Billups, Bosh
2. Revan: Kobe, Kidd, Gasol, Mutombo, George, Artest, Yao, Stoudemire, Crawford
3. Skills: LeBron, Pippen, CP3, Ewing, Reggie Miller, Harden, Aldridge, DeAndre Jordan, Mike Miller
4. NM: Duncan, Robinson, Stockton, Pierce, Ginobili, Richmond, Horford, Rondo, Camby
5. RD: Olajuwon, Webber, Nash, McGrady, Marion, Melo, Mourning, Bowen, Butler
6. Mani: Malone, Iverson, Parker, Howard, Hill, Fisher, Drexler, Allen
7. Eboue: Curry, Nowitzki, Carter, Davis, Thompson, Peja, Barkley, Chandler
8: MJJ: Garnett, Durant, Allen, Westbrook, Wallace, Rodman, Billups, Bosh
A lot of lesser power forwards being taken, one utterly obvious omission dangling out there like a tit in the breeze.
I think I know for whom are you talking. I was in doubt between him and Stoudemire, but in the end decided for the later, mostly cause I like him more.
Out of curiosity, is the player you are talking a 6 time NBA All-Star player?
Its cause that position can be filled by versatile players who play the 3. It isnt a specialist position like a C or a PG.
Just so there is no mis-understanding as well, I was referencing your pick specifically, among one or two others.
And Crawford is just baffling considering another SG from the same era (ish) as my PF is still out there, good production and made himself 3 All star and 3 All Defensive squads
I know exactly who you talking about Stobs!
Probably the most unlucky dude in terms of where he got moved to and where he moved from, not once but twice. Dude should have 4 rings.
Crawford will barely play for me. He is one of the best players coming from the bench though, and that is what I need considering that Kobe will pretty much play near 40 minutes.
My defense is already extremely strong. Kidd is a fantastic defender, Kobe is 12 times all defender in the league, Artest is an incredible defender (IMO, even better than Kobe), and Mutombo is the best defensive center of modern era. Even George, Gasol and Yao are at the very least, very good defenders.
For me, most baffling pick was Fisher before Billups and Rondo!
Alonzo Mourning would have more DPOTY if he didnt have those problems.
Possibly. I think the only two in history (or at least in the last 20-30 years) that have 4 Defensive Player of the Year are Mutombo and B. Wallace. Mutombo looked more like a monster though, considering his incredible height. Has there even been a better blocker than him?
Fishers had good seasons with Lakers
pick!
Give me some time guys ,on the way to home.
Alonzo, Bol, Robinson, Eaton and Hakeem to name 5.
Alonzo and Robinson, no. Bol and Eaton, I have no idea. Hakeem possibly, probably need to check stats there.
Hakeem averages more blocks than Mutombo and Alonzo. He is at 3.1 while the other two are at 2.8 for their career.
I guess it is better to look at their peak years, rather than their career. At least for the purpose of this thread.
Still Hakeem had 4.6 the most and Mutombo 4.5
Serge Ibaka
1. Skizzo: Shaq, Wade, Payton, Draymond, Kawhi, Green, Iguodala, Williams, Bogut
2. Revan: Kobe, Kidd, Gasol, Mutombo, George, Artest, Yao, Stoudemire, Crawford
3. Skills: LeBron, Pippen, CP3, Ewing, Reggie Miller, Harden, Aldridge, DeAndre Jordan, Mike Miller
4. NM: Duncan, Robinson, Stockton, Pierce, Ginobili, Richmond, Horford, Rondo, Camby
5. RD: Olajuwon, Webber, Nash, McGrady, Marion, Melo, Mourning, Bowen, Butler
6. Mani: Malone, Iverson, Parker, Howard, Hill, Fisher, Drexler, Allen, Ibaka
7. Eboue: Curry, Nowitzki, Carter, Davis, Thompson, Peja, Barkley, Chandler
8: MJJ: Garnett, Durant, Allen, Westbrook, Wallace, Rodman, Billups, Bosh
@Eboue.....
1. Skizzo: Shaq, Wade, Payton, Draymond, Kawhi, Green, Iguodala, Williams, Bogut
2. Revan: Kobe, Kidd, Gasol, Mutombo, George, Artest, Yao, Stoudemire, Crawford
3. Skills: LeBron, Pippen, CP3, Ewing, Reggie Miller, Harden, Aldridge, DeAndre Jordan, Mike Miller
4. NM: Duncan, Robinson, Stockton, Pierce, Ginobili, Richmond, Horford, Rondo, Camby
5. RD: Olajuwon, Webber, Nash, McGrady, Marion, Melo, Mourning, Bowen, Butler
6. Mani: Malone, Iverson, Parker, Howard, Hill, Fisher, Drexler, Allen, Ibaka
7. Eboue: Curry, Nowitzki, Carter, Davis, Thompson, Peja, Barkley, Chandler
8: MJJ: Garnett, Durant, Allen, Westbrook, Wallace, Rodman, Billups, Bosh
@Eboue.....
It's not the player Stobzilla is talking about but Sheed is a better shooter, better defender and had a longer history of success.
1. Skizzo: Shaq, Wade, Payton, Draymond, Kawhi, Green, Iguodala, Williams, Bogut
2. Revan: Kobe, Kidd, Gasol, Mutombo, George, Artest, Yao, Stoudemire, Crawford
3. Skills: LeBron, Pippen, CP3, Ewing, Reggie Miller, Harden, Aldridge, DeAndre Jordan, Mike Miller
4. NM: Duncan, Robinson, Stockton, Pierce, Ginobili, Richmond, Horford, Rondo, Camby
5. RD: Olajuwon, Webber, Nash, McGrady, Marion, Melo, Mourning, Bowen, Butler
6. Mani: Malone, Iverson, Parker, Howard, Hill, Fisher, Drexler, Allen, Ibaka
7. Eboue: Curry, Nowitzki, Carter, Davis, Thompson, Peja, Barkley, Chandler, Sheed
8: MJJ: Garnett, Durant, Allen, Westbrook, Wallace, Rodman, Billups, Bosh
@MJJ
1. Skizzo: Shaq, Wade, Payton, Draymond, Kawhi, Green, Iguodala, Williams, Bogut
2. Revan: Kobe, Kidd, Gasol, Mutombo, George, Artest, Yao, Stoudemire, Crawford
3. Skills: LeBron, Pippen, CP3, Ewing, Reggie Miller, Harden, Aldridge, DeAndre Jordan, Mike Miller
4. NM: Duncan, Robinson, Stockton, Pierce, Ginobili, Richmond, Horford, Rondo, Camby
5. RD: Olajuwon, Webber, Nash, McGrady, Marion, Melo, Mourning, Bowen, Butler
6. Mani: Malone, Iverson, Parker, Howard, Hill, Fisher, Drexler, Allen, Ibaka
7. Eboue: Curry, Nowitzki, Carter, Davis, Thompson, Peja, Barkley, Chandler, Sheed
8: MJJ: Garnett, Durant, Allen, Westbrook, Wallace, Rodman, Billups, Bosh
@MJJ
Great pick. Was debating between him and Ibaka.
Anyone before me can send me their picks btw.
I'll concede to the sheed in some categories. People still have a good 7 years to pick from with my dude who did average a Double Double over that time frame. But I'm not having Ibaka.
Come on man you can't do that.
Comment on the draft in a public forum ? Righto.
You are telling people about a guy to pick, not cool.
If people are swayed by MY opinion on basketball then they have bigger problems than that.
Damn @MJJ still has two hours to go. Lets go man. I want to get this over with. We all have one more pick.
He won't come, he's in Pakistan iirc so he's sleeping.
Its around 6am there if Im not mistaken. Hopefully he wakes up soon.
Considering he's a Block monster and can easily manage to shoot mid rangers and 3 pointers, he was exactly the sort of player we wanted. Balance takes precedence over reputation.