The F1 Thread 2014 Season

If I was Hamilton I would do what needs to be done, you might never get another shot at a title like this. Shut his side of the garage down, no more data sharing, no more setup sharing, old school head to head fight.

If Mercedes don't like it, let them go and find someone else to put up with their shite.
 
Leg-End said:
Questions have to start being asked of Mercedes now, the pattern emerging is not pretty.
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They must be tired of finishing 1-2 on a regular basis.

We all knew there's likely to be a bit of problem with reliability this season. Surprisingly it only really hit Mercedes after a few races.
 
Did any of you really think Lewis could get the better of a German teammate in a German team? At the end of the day, the Germans would still prefer one of their own to win. How else would you explain why Rosberg's pit times are always faster?
 
Lewis and Kimi are Hungarian soulmates, Ferrari should have seen that coming.
 
Nah, I'll continue to question it as long as Hamilton's car continues to have the issues whilst the other one sails to pole and wins. Thanks.
 
It's beyond a joke now. I've never seen such an obvious pattern of car "failures" favouring one driver.

Mercedes are desperate for a German to win. The fact that they've apparently offered mega-money to Vettel for 2016 to put him alongside Rosberg just reinforces that point to me. They want an all-German team, and to dominate as a German team with German drivers. Lewis was just a stepping stone because they thought they needed a top notch driver to guarantee them a title. Now it turns out their car is so good that Rosberg can do it anyway, they don't need Lewis. Rosberg can win it, and they'll make sure he does.
 
I despise Hamilton but he is incredible unlucky. There's no conspiracy theory. No team would put a drivers health at risk just to win with a national driver.
 
Do people really think this is intentional? :lol:
Because Mercedes want a German to win they give Hamilton a break failure and set his car on fire?

If they were that determined for him not to win the championship then it probably would have made more sense not to offer him a seat than risk being found guilty of attempted manslaughter every fortnight
 
It would also be much easier to just get something "accidentally" wrong with his setup to make him slower or even botch at a pit stop.
I can't believe any team would risk the life of a driver and destroy an expensive car just to get one driver to win the championship.
 
I don't think its intentional, but when Niki Lauda himself is asking questions of what the feck is going on you do have to wonder if someone on Hamilton's side of the garage isn't doing his job.

It's just happened too much this season for people not to raise the question is it? More in the know people than us are asking it.

Just for one race I'd love to see Mercedes give him a single pitstop that isn't a second slower too.
 
17Larsson said:
Do people really think this is intentional? :lol:
Because Mercedes want a German to win they give Hamilton a break failure and set his car on fire?

If they were that determined for him not to win the championship then it probably would have made more sense not to offer him a seat than risk being found guilty of attempted manslaughter every fortnight
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And sanity shows up. :) These conspiracy theorists are hilarious.
 
17Larsson said:
If they were that determined for him not to win the championship then it probably would have made more sense not to offer him a seat than risk being found guilty of attempted manslaughter every fortnight
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Pah! Mercedes apologist!
 
It is frankly ludicrous to suggest Mercedes as a team are sabotaging their own driver. It's more of a competency question, is someone on Hamilton's side of the garage not doing a good enough job? Is it a process issue or procedure issue or is literally someone who has butterfingers fitting the fuel line and brakes.

They have a summer break after this one, I'd imagine they will investigate it and find out who needs hitting over the head.
 
It's not sabotage, he just has incompetent mechanics, presumably the same bunch Schumi had in his last year.
 
They should look at his crew, mechanics and so on. Maybe they're not very competent. Also the pit stop guys.
 
Leg-End said:
It is frankly ludicrous to suggest Mercedes as a team are sabotaging their own driver. It's more of a competency question, is someone on Hamilton's side of the garage not doing a good enough job? Is it a process issue or procedure issue or is literally someone who has butterfingers fitting the fuel line and brakes.

They have a summer break after this one, I'd imagine they will investigate it and find out who needs hitting over the head.
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Leg-End said:
If I was Hamilton I would do what needs to be done, you might never get another shot at a title like this. Shut his side of the garage down, no more data sharing, no more setup sharing, old school head to head fight.

If Mercedes don't like it, let them go and find someone else to put up with their shite.
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:lol: are you sure you are the same person ?
 
How is one like the other? If he wants to win this title from this positon he has to do all he can from his own side no?

Rosberg is well known to be a data driven driver, it would hurt both sides but what does he have to lose at this point?
 
not watched any of qualifying yet but starting from the back or even pit lane on this track, will make it pretty damn hard to get a podium.
I don't buy the sabotage , maybe there is a case for incompetent mechanics and what about the pit stop , always slower than Nico's.
The way it is going the double point race , will make no difference, Nico will be more than 50 points in front.
I am a massive Lewis fan, but I can admit to him being an arse somethings and throwing his toys out of the pram, but after the bad luck he has had, can you blame him.
 
It always bemuses me when one driver gets a series of mechanical failures during a season whilst the other gets a pretty reliable car that experiences very few breakdowns. I wonder if Hamilton will seriously consider moving at the end of this season, as he has the ego to see himself as the top dog anywhere who deserves the best and most reliable car. For the top car to break down this many times is quite frankly ridiculous; he should be miles ahead of Rosberg in this title race, and now he will probably be outside the top 3 in this GP and falling well behind in the chase.
 
Lewis Hamilton: I'll struggle to get top five in Hungary GP

If he gets top 5, he will of done very well.
I would be happy in the top 10 and some points.

and a penalty awaits him later in the season because of this fire.

Hamilton explained that the fire, which Mercedes say was caused by a fuel leak, could have ramifications for him later in the season, as a result of a rule limiting drivers to five engines a season.

Any driver who uses a sixth example of one of the major components that makes up the power-unit is hit with an immediate 10-place grid penalty.

Hamilton said: "Most likely I'm going to have to change my engine, which means some time later on in the season I'll have to take a 10-place penalty because of my engine.
 
Sky are reporting that Lewis will start the Hungarian GP from the pitlane.
The team is in for a long hard night, rebuilding the car, I my just put money on him not even finishing the race.

Watching on BBC and they just said, it is a complete rebuild, in the factory 1 to 1 and a half days, they aim to do it in 11-12 hours, everything was burnt, chassis change is also needed.
Days like this that the team earns its money, all day at the track, all night on rebuild and then a race to do.
 
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Pitlane start is worse case, on the plus side you avoid potential carnage but on the downside your already miles behind. Gonna need a safety car or two, perhaps some weather changes.

On the plus side they can alter the cars setup, if its wet he can make some changes and if its dry I'd imagine they will take some wing off and give him a higher top speed. All goes well I think best case would be 6th behind Rosberg, Red Bull's and Williams.
 
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Pitlane start is worse case, on the plus side you avoid potential carnage but on the downside your already miles behind. Gonna need a safety car or two, perhaps some weather changes.

On the plus side they can alter the cars setup, if its wet he can make some changes and if its dry I'd imagine they will take some wing off and give him a higher top speed. All goes well I think best case would be 6th behind Rosberg, Red Bull's and Williams.
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I agree 6th would be an excellent drive, but car rebuilt in a rush, no chance for any testing, any part could fail again or just not be fitted quite to specs, I think finishing the race will be a great effort.
His one saving grace could be rain, it is expected, but like last week he will drive like a man possessed, he will have plenty of tryes to hammer them, if anybody can do it Lewis can.
 
FreakyJim said:
They should look at his crew, mechanics and so on. Maybe they're not very competent. Also the pit stop guys.
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Same pit crew for both cars but some how Lewis loses about 2 or 3 seconds a race in the pits.
 
Mercedes, despite being a german brand, are a UK team at source, Malaysian title sponsors, and Mercedes sells their product worldwide.

Not sure there is that much of a conspiracy going on, simply bad luck. I know its a more plausible scenario by saying that the team favours a German driver but it's even more madness to suggest that its a concrete view by the team.

Hamilton simply needs to sort out his qualifying, its been his weakest element this year compared to Nico.
 
F-Red said:
Hamilton simply needs to sort out his qualifying, its been his weakest element this year compared to Nico.
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I think every driver has the odd problem is qualifying. I don't really know what can do when his brakes fail or car goes up in flames. Lewis has beaten Nico in races every time when his car hasn't failed, that's why he had more wins.

It's heavy rain in Hungary.
 
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