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The F1 Thread 2008 Season
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
fecking idiot Hamilton....i thought Raikkonen might have chinned him there
damn i missed that, i want a replay damnit
feck sake, Nico was running well too.
Raikkonen took it well, strangely.
True...i would have ripped his helmet off and smacked him one for that.....utterly stupid mistake.
Now there is an investigation over it which doesnt look good for lewis and rightly so....he was heading for kubica and steered into and took out his closest title challenger
This was a sure win for Lewis, so if anyone stood to lose anything it was him. Kimi drives for Ferrari, so I am having trouble feeling sorry for him.
Sure win? he was jumped by both Raikkonen and Kubica in the pits(hence why both cars were in front of Lewis) so would have been in third after that.
what a move by Massa
Bmw 1-2
What a bunch of idiots. Hamilton completely fecked up there, funny but by now he shouldn't be doing stuff like that.
What gets me even more is the second Ferrari and McLaren should be up near the top, not making up midfield places near the end of the race.
Have to say - well done to BMW - played it all well and with their heads - they deserve it for their efforts and hopefully they can build on this.
Its all good though, nice to have a different race and throws a few points down the pack.
What gets me even more is the second Ferrari and McLaren should be up near the top, not making up midfield places near the end of the race.
Have to say - well done to BMW - played it all well and with their heads - they deserve it for their efforts and hopefully they can build on this.
Its all good though, nice to have a different race and throws a few points down the pack.
Kubica now lead the championship
This is an interesting slant which I never thought about. It will be interesting what the investigation comes out with.
If he does get in trouble its not just him I don't think. The other driver behind him ran into Hamilton as well (same problem). And firstly I'm not sure Ferrari should have released Raikkonen at the same time as the other car - it was a little close.
I reckon Hamilton will be punished or the team. He should have known really and his actions have put others out of a race.
Nothing to do with that....you release the drivers as quickly as possible doesn't matter either way once neither break the pit lane speed limit.
Stupid mistake by Hamilton and Rosberg and both should be punished for it because they both ignored the red light.
Rules are rules i'd be very surprised and shocked if both get away with it
Kimi fecked up last week - so he hasn't got much to say
Lol thats a stupid argument.
Monaco last week was in rain and at racing conditions....i could probably tell you about 10 other racing incidents of the same calibur.
Both Lewis and rosberg ignored red lights.....yes ok they are mistakes but they also break the rules
No it would be a separate incident to the Hamilton thing. And no the lollipop man has to release the driver safely - they were side by side in the end. Ferrari can do that because there is no pit crew in front of them. Teams have been punished for releasing drivers early before - I wouldn't put it past them.
Fair points. Anyways, it's good for the serie that Kimi doesn't finish a few races - it is good for the competetion. I was afraid at the start of the season that he would be running away with the title. Despite these setbacks he will probably still win it as he has the best car and is the fastest driver - now it however seems like it will be a tight race for the title.
True....i forgot about that.
but many a time before have cars been released side by side leaving the pitlane.
I havn't seen one incident punished for it unless it led to an accident, have you?
(i can't remember an incident like that anyways)
Terrible mistake by Hamilton, but these things happen.....he's unlikely to do it again. A few races ago, he ran into the back of Alonso - and escaped punishment, mostly because Alonso was able to carry on....but this is a step too far. Grid penalty?
I reckon so....if not he is basically getting away with breaking the rules along with Rosberg.
They neglected to see the red light which is they're job to look out for.
Drivers have been black flagged for breaking red light rules before.
I can't see why Hamilton is any different
Hamilton handed 10 place grid penalty for french GP
Lewis Hamilton has described his pit-lane collision with Kimi Raikkonen in the Canadian Grand Prix as "unfortunate".
Hamilton was leading the race by six seconds when the safety car was deployed after Adrian Sutil retired his Force India car trackside.
The Briton and main championship rival Raikkonen were among a number of drivers who took the option to pit, with the Finn and eventual race winner Robert Kubica getting the drop on Hamilton.
But, as Raikkonen stopped for the red light at the end of the pit lane, Hamilton's McLaren careered into the back of the World Champion's Ferrari, forcing them both out of the race.
As the drivers got out of their cars, Raikkonen theatrically pointed at the pit signals to indicate they had been on red.
It was a disaster for the leading two drivers in this year's Championship but Hamilton was philosophical.
"I saw the two guys in front of me battling in the pit lane and I was trying to make sure I didn't get involved but then they stopped," a sheepish Hamilton told ITV1.
"I saw the red light but it was too late. It's not a racing incident but I think it is unfortunate.
"It is a lot different if you crash into the wall and you are angry with yourself.
"I apologise to Kimi if I ruined his race. I would rather neither of us be out. I was so quick I was breezing it."
With Kubica now holding a four-point lead in the Drivers' Championship, Hamilton has dropped to joint second alongside Ferrari's Felipe Massa, who finished fifth in Montreal.
Raikkonen has dropped to fourth place, three points behind Hamilton and Massa.
Hamilton was leading the race by six seconds when the safety car was deployed after Adrian Sutil retired his Force India car trackside.
The Briton and main championship rival Raikkonen were among a number of drivers who took the option to pit, with the Finn and eventual race winner Robert Kubica getting the drop on Hamilton.
But, as Raikkonen stopped for the red light at the end of the pit lane, Hamilton's McLaren careered into the back of the World Champion's Ferrari, forcing them both out of the race.
As the drivers got out of their cars, Raikkonen theatrically pointed at the pit signals to indicate they had been on red.
It was a disaster for the leading two drivers in this year's Championship but Hamilton was philosophical.
"I saw the two guys in front of me battling in the pit lane and I was trying to make sure I didn't get involved but then they stopped," a sheepish Hamilton told ITV1.
"I saw the red light but it was too late. It's not a racing incident but I think it is unfortunate.
"It is a lot different if you crash into the wall and you are angry with yourself.
"I apologise to Kimi if I ruined his race. I would rather neither of us be out. I was so quick I was breezing it."
With Kubica now holding a four-point lead in the Drivers' Championship, Hamilton has dropped to joint second alongside Ferrari's Felipe Massa, who finished fifth in Montreal.
Raikkonen has dropped to fourth place, three points behind Hamilton and Massa.
That's seems to be a catch-all type of penalty.
He has to expect some kind of punishment.....the apology was lame as well.
I can't stand that twat James Allen... from his column on this weekends race...
If he can't see the difference between the 2 incidents he needs shooting for fecks sake.
Kimi crashed in race conditions, in bad weather, on a slippery track while flying about however fast he was.
Hamilton managed to wipe Raikkonen out IN THE PIT LANE, WITH A RED LIGHT, AND AT A STAND STILL.
fecking James Allen :@ Most annoying cnut ever.
If he can't see the difference between the 2 incidents he needs shooting for fecks sake.
Kimi crashed in race conditions, in bad weather, on a slippery track while flying about however fast he was.
Hamilton managed to wipe Raikkonen out IN THE PIT LANE, WITH A RED LIGHT, AND AT A STAND STILL.
fecking James Allen :@ Most annoying cnut ever.
Kubica deserves to lead the championship. Only "top"-driver that didn't make a dumb error this year.
Agreed...what a retard he is.
Kimi's reaction -
"There's not much I can say. My race was ruined by Hamilton's mistake. Obviously, anyone can make mistakes, as I did two weeks ago in Monaco, but it's one thing to make a mistake at two hundred (miles) per hour but another to hit a car stopped at a red light. I am not angry because that doesn't achieve anything and does not change my result! I am unhappy, because I had a great chance of winning. Once the graining had gone from the tyres, the car was going very well. I have failed to score in these last two races and now it's time to start winning again. There is still a long way to go in the championship and it is still very close and we have everything we need to regain the ground we have lost."
James Allen is about as bias as you get.
On top of that he doesn't know feck all either. Martin Brundle is always correcting him on stuff. Best just to ignore him.
On top of that he doesn't know feck all either. Martin Brundle is always correcting him on stuff. Best just to ignore him.
fecking Hamilton, screw up Kimi, wtf was he doing, there was a red light at the pit lane.
amateur hour by Hamilton.
Well spotted, Kelvin.
There's nothing doing there Stemmy, he was slamming the breaks on and heading for the gap alongside Raikkonen. I hardly think it was a calculated move!
He's been docked 10 places for the next race, and I think that's fair enough. It was a stupid mistake, he evidently wasn't anticipating the pit lane exit being closed, and reacted too late once he'd realised. The cars are still doing 80km/h as they come to the exit of the pits, you don't have long to react and stop the car
It's simply tough luck for Raikkonen though, much like it was for his unfortunate victim at Monaco. Hamilton was lucky in the respect his accident also affected one of his Championship rivals, but it also brought another one right into play. Game on
Fcking Jammy cnut,Hamilton is!
Kimi on pole for French GP.
Only caught the last bit of the end session. Seemed like Alonso had a bit of pace in him. It could be Renault fuelling him light as it is there home race or better pace from them. Bloody hope so otherwise with both Ferraris on the front row it will be boring at the front end. We shall see.
Hamilton starts from 13th - rumoured to be light so it should be interesting to see how that pans out tomorrow.
Hamilton starts from 13th - rumoured to be light so it should be interesting to see how that pans out tomorrow.
how come schumacher could do allmost anything with out punishment but hammilton gets a rediculous 10 place penalty for a minor coming together????
That is so not true, Schumacher got put back the grid for parking on the track in the Monaco Grand Prix. Hence, this is not as bad and he deserves this as it was totally his fault for not realising the red light was on.
He didn't actually even needed to look at the red light as there was space to the left of Kimi, which he could have parked if he was so eager. It was too late when he wanted to move in to the space before hitting KIMI. Totally fair if you ask me.
I think it deserved a punishment. He didn't notice the red lights because he was so eager to make up for the bad pit stop (coming out behind them when he was in front) - not noticing it is silly but its a rule he should have known of anyway. He also took out another driver in the incident.
Hamilton made another mistake in qualifying. Pressure?
Kovalainen has also taken a 5 place grid drop due to blocking a driver in qualifying.
Hamilton made another mistake in qualifying. Pressure?
Kovalainen has also taken a 5 place grid drop due to blocking a driver in qualifying.