The Criteria Draft - The Drafts

For me, he has a winners medal, that should be the end of it, countries respective rules on how they dish them out should be irrelevant as they differ from each other.
 
Re: the infamous 8 & 9. Again.

Big Dunc just picked Albertini - who played with Sheva at Milan without winning trophies for two consecutive seasons. No issue there.

And they both have won the league (that is the criterion, by the way - not any trophy, but the league) in another country.

However, Albertini didn't play a full season for Barca. He joined them in January - and hardly featured (but that is beside the point, he got his medal - wouldn't have in England and several other countries, but that too is beside the point).

Now, if Albertini had no league titles before joining Barca, his one title with them would NOT have disqualified him for the "no league title" criterion. Because it's clearly stated that what counts here is a FULL season for the league winning club in question. Henke Larsson's title for us, for instance, would NOT have counted.

Is there an issue here? It does seem illogical that winning the league without featuring for a full season meets the "league won in other country" criterion, while the very same thing would NOT count against a player in the "no league titles won" category.

I don't mean to be a bastard - I'm just putting it out there.

The rule regarding "full season" applies to all of the criteria of similar ilk. In fact, in criteria 8 & 9, it uses the phrase "full season" which has been clarified in the clarifications section.
 
For me, he has a winners medal, that should be the end of it, countries respective rules on how they dish them out should be irrelevant as they differ from each other.

No but, what is defined as having a league title has already clear. Full season for these thing to quality...
 
For me, he has a winners medal, that should be the end of it, countries respective rules on how they dish them out should be irrelevant as they differ from each other.

That's not the issue here, though. The question is whether the same rule - for us - applies everywhere. A player needs to be on the books for club X for a full season (how many matches he played is irrelevant) in order to be classified as a league winner for the "no leagues won" category. Does this, then, apply for the 8 & 9 business as well?

If it does, Albertini and Sheva ain't a valid 8 & 9 combo.
 
I took having played for a full season meant that as long as he was registered for that team for the full season and never went out on loan or got transferred that as long as he picked up a medal it was ok.
 
I took having played for a full season meant that as long as he was registered for that team for the full season and never went out on loan or got transferred that as long as he picked up a medal it was ok.

In the clarifications thread it says from the end of the summer transfer window through to the last official game.

Sorry bud. :(
 
It's cool anyway as he meets the World Cup runner up criteria. It's my own fault as i should of asked the question before making my pick.
 
What is the number of appearances that constitutes as a full season though ? The way it written down now is to grey.
 
Also criteria 3 says this -

3. A player who has never won a league title. In order to count as winning a league title for a club, the player must have represented the club for the full season in which the league title was won. The number of matches played is irrelevant.

So is it not the same for criteria 8 or 9 ?
 
What is the number of appearances that constitutes as a full season though ? The way it written down now is to grey.

Yep - no. of matches is completely irrelevent as long as they were registered for the club for a full season which is defined as:

"end of the summer transfer window through to the final official game of the season". You could play 0 games or 50 games.
 
If i would of picked Albertini for criteria 3 it would not of been allowed as he has won a league title with Barcelona. However for criteria 8 and 9 Albertini league title for Barcelona doesn't count ?
 
Also criteria 3 says this -

3. A player who has never won a league title. In order to count as winning a league title for a club, the player must have represented the club for the full season in which the league title was won. The number of matches played is irrelevant.

So is it not the same for criteria 8 or 9 ?

Yes it is - that's exactly the same as 8/9. In no criteria is no. of matches played relevent. it is ONLY the specific term "full season" which is defined in the clarifications section as "end of summer window to lsat official game of season".
 
If i would of picked Albertini for criteria 3 it would not of been allowed as he has won a league title with Barcelona. However for criteria 8 and 9 Albertini league title for Barcelona doesn't count ?

No - you're misreading criteria 3. To count as winning the league, you need to play the full season. Therefore, Albertini didn't play the full season, therefore his Barcelona league title is irrelevent.
 
Sorry guys i missed that he joined in January my bad.

Sorry for feckin' it up for you, mate - but it could have occurred at any point.

Albertini qualifies for both the "losing WC finalist" and the "ten seasons" criteria, though.
 
Sorry for feckin' it up for you, mate - but it could have occurred at any point.

Albertini qualifies for both the "losing WC finalist" and the "ten seasons" criteria, though.
No problem mate if someone makes a mistake it needs to be pointed out for the sake of the game.
 
:D the amount of changes you have to make in the "who I'm going to pick next" in this draft is unbelievable. @crappycraperson is going to wake up and see about 8-9 messages from me with a different set of ideas in each of them :lol:
Trippy I really think this is much harder than the one we had at the newbies, it's bloody superb and terrible simultaneously :D
 
No need to apologize bud, i'm sure there will be plenty of mistakes going forward. At least you can sort him with a different criterion! Imagine if you couldn't......... SHEEEEEEP
Yep with the toughness of the draft i probably wont be the last to make a mistake :lol:

On the sheep thing does that mean you end with a Titus Bramble or somebody like that ?
 
I prefer one, after all what we've started to build the teams around now.

Problem with one is say you want to upgrade your defense, unless you find someone with the exact same criteria as your current defender it will be impossible to upgrade him.

With two, you can upgrade defense and fulfill criteria in a separate position.
 
@rpitroda

I would suggest an amendment to the OP along these lines:

A player eligible for this draft is recognized as having won a trophy (league or cup, domestic or international) ONLY if said player played (was officially a member of the club's squad) for the FULL season in which the trophy was won, i.e. from autumn of year X to spring of year Y. Amount of matches played is irrelevant, as are the awarding criteria applicable to particular federations.

This would also mean that Player X, who featured officially for Club Y from August 200? to June 200? will be counted as having won any trophy the club won during this period, regardless of whether the federation in question recognizes him as a winner or not.