The Criteria Draft - The Drafts

Chesterlestreet said:
Don't worry! There's always another Cafu. No...wait, there isn't, actually.
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Believe what you wish.

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Was looking for ways to fit in my pick Fabio Cannavaro and constantly kept missing the "never won a CL" criteria which I had assigned for a GK(Everybody knows who).

Sorry for taking some time.
 
1. VivaJanuzaj & Crappy - Messi, Sammer, Lahm
2. MJJ/mani-Ronaldinho, Henry,Cafu
3. Annahnomoss - Ronaldo 9, Thuram, Cannavaro
4. Cutch - Maldini, Savicevic
5. NoPace - Ronaldo 7, R. Baggio
6. Stobzilla / KM - Zidane, Davids
7. FromTheBench/Theon - Romário, Makélélé
8. EDogen - Keane, Scholes
9. BigDunc9 - Xavi, Iniesta
10. rpitroda - Nedved, Seedorf
11. BorisDeLeFora - Nesta, Vieira
12. Chesterlestreet - Hristo Stoichkov, Gaizka Mendieta
13. Paceme - Figo, Rui Costa
14. NM / Snow - Redondo, Giggs
15. Aldo - Rivaldo, Desailly
16. Edgar Allan pillow - Roberto Carlos, David Beckham
 
Annahnomoss said:
Was looking for ways to fit in my pick Fabio Cannavaro and constantly kept missing the "never won a CL" criteria which I had assigned for a GK(Everybody knows who).

Sorry for taking some time.
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There isn't a criteria for never winning the CL? The criteria is never played in the CL/EL.
 
Annahnomoss said:
Was looking for ways to fit in my pick Fabio Cannavaro and constantly kept missing the "never won a CL" criteria which I had assigned for a GK(Everybody knows who).

Sorry for taking some time.
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There is not a criteria for 'never wining a CL', its not having played in any European competition is it not ?
 
@rpitroda Just to get this straight - the "no CL/EL or equivalent" criterion means, in practice, no European football of any meaningful kind, right? The old European Cup, the old Cup Winner's Cup and the old UEFA cup - all these are out. Correct?

The ridiculous and already debated Intertoto Cup should also disqualify a player, I reckon - as that too was clearly part of what is the Europa League today.
 
Do they have to have played minutes or are they ineligible if their team played in Europe too even if they didn't play.
 
1. VivaJanuzaj & Crappy - Messi, Sammer, Lahm
2. MJJ/mani-Ronaldinho, Henry,Cafu
3. Annahnomoss - Ronaldo 9, Thuram, Cannavaro
4. Cutch - Maldini, Savicevic, Zanetti
5. NoPace - Ronaldo 7, R. Baggio
6. Stobzilla / KM - Zidane, Davids
7. FromTheBench/Theon - Romário, Makélélé
8. EDogen - Keane, Scholes
9. BigDunc9 - Xavi, Iniesta
10. rpitroda - Nedved, Seedorf
11. BorisDeLeFora - Nesta, Vieira
12. Chesterlestreet - Hristo Stoichkov, Gaizka Mendieta
13. Paceme - Figo, Rui Costa
14. NM / Snow - Redondo, Giggs
15. Aldo - Rivaldo, Desailly
16. Edgar Allan pillow - Roberto Carlos, David Beckham
 
Annahnomoss said:
Do they have to have played minutes or are they ineligible if their team played in Europe too even if they didn't play.
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Bit of a tricky one, in terms of the other rules, I'd say.

A "non trophy" season and a "league winning" season, for instance, is down to the player having been registered for the club for a whole season (July/August to May/June). As I understand it. Whether he was injured all season or played fifty games doesn't matter.

So, by that logic, a player can't have been registered for a squad which participated in a European competition.

However, if you can prove that player X never actually featured in a match squad in a European competition - in spite of his team taking part - then I guess you'd have a case. Up to Trip, though - the examples of this sort of thing can't be plentiful.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
@rpitroda Just to get this straight - the "no CL/EL or equivalent" criterion means, in practice, no European football of any meaningful kind, right? The old European Cup, the old Cup Winner's Cup and the old UEFA cup - all these are out. Correct?

The ridiculous and already debated Intertoto Cup should also disqualify a player, I reckon - as that too was clearly part of what is the Europa League today.
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That's correct. However we won't include the intertoto cup here. Although now rolled into the EL, it's kind of different in the sense that it was the 3rd tier of European Football when it was around. I don't think we should include that tbh.

Annahnomoss said:
Do they have to have played minutes or are they ineligible if their team played in Europe too even if they didn't play.
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Chesterlestreet said:
Bit of a tricky one, in terms of the other rules, I'd say.

A "non trophy" season and a "league winning" season, for instance, is down to the player having been registered for the club for a whole season (July/August to May/June). As I understand it. Whether he was injured all season or played fifty games doesn't matter.

So, by that logic, a player can't have been registered for a squad which participated in a European competition.

However, if you can prove that player X never actually featured in a match squad in a European competition - in spite of his team taking part - then I guess you'd have a case. Up to Trip, though - the examples of this sort of thing can't be plentiful.
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I think this criteria is different to the league winning/non-trophy season one though. For example, if you applied a no. of games rule to those, where do you draw the line. If you played 1 game, do you count as being part of a league winning side? Or would you need a minimum of 5? It's a bit complicated, it's easier to just be registered at the club being enough. Plus, there is many options for these players. Finding a playe rwho hasn't played in Europe's top 2 competitions is extremely hard.

Being at a club which was in Europe however not playing means you still meet the criteria, immo.
 
rpitroda said:
I think this criteria is different to the league winning/non-trophy season one though. For example, if you applied a no. of games rule to those, where do you draw the line. If you played 1 game, do you count as being part of a league winning side? Or would you need a minimum of 5? It's a bit complicated, it's easier to just be registered at the club being enough. Plus, there is many options for these players. Finding a playe rwho hasn't played in Europe's top 2 competitions is extremely hard.

Being at a club which was in Europe however not playing means you still meet the criteria, immo.
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Indeed - not least since it varies from federation to federation how many matches (starter/sub and what have you) you need to get a medal.

But, to sum it up, if a manager can prove that Player X did not feature in any match during any European (CL/EL/old EC, old CWC, old UEFA Cup) campaign during his career, he's good to go.

OR: A manager has to prove that Player X did not feature in any match SQUAD during any...and so forth...both these could be used as premises.*

* I'm just feckin' with you, really, Trip. I can't imagine this being an actual issue/relevant difference. But you never know.
 
Chesterlestreet said:
Indeed - not least since it varies from federation to federation how many matches (starter/sub and what have you) you need to get a medal.

But, to sum it up, if a manager can prove that Player X did not feature in any match during any European (CL/EL/old EC, old CWC, old UEFA Cup) campaign during his career, he's good to go.

OR: A manager has to prove that Player X did not feature in any match SQUAD during any...and so forth...both these could be used as premises.*

* I'm just feckin' with you, really, Trip. I can't imagine this being an actual issue/relevant difference. But you never know.
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Aaaaaaaarrrrgggggghhhhh. I demand a free player from your squad!

But yeah, it's no. 1. Being in a squad which is in Europe doesn't matter as long as they ain't actually played.

Qualifiers count though.
 
rpitroda said:
Aaaaaaaarrrrgggggghhhhh. I demand a free player from your squad!

But yeah, it's no. 1. Being in a squad which is in Europe doesn't matter as long as they ain't actually played.

Qualifiers count though.
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I WILL go for Fellaini at some point, just for kicks - and then you can have him.
 
1. VivaJanuzaj & Crappy - Messi, Sammer, Lahm
2. MJJ/mani-Ronaldinho, Henry,Cafu
3. Annahnomoss - Ronaldo 9, Thuram, Cannavaro
4. Cutch - Maldini, Savicevic, Zanetti
5. NoPace - Ronaldo 7, R. Baggio, Senna
6. Stobzilla / KM - Zidane, Davids, Robben
7. FromTheBench/Theon - Romário, Makélélé
8. EDogen - Keane, Scholes
9. BigDunc9 - Xavi, Iniesta
10. rpitroda - Nedved, Seedorf
11. BorisDeLeFora - Nesta, Vieira
12. Chesterlestreet - Hristo Stoichkov, Gaizka Mendieta
13. Paceme - Figo, Rui Costa
14. NM / Snow - Redondo, Giggs
15. Aldo - Rivaldo, Desailly
16. Edgar Allan pillow - Roberto Carlos, David Beckham

Arjen Robben

@FromTheBench @Theon
 
BigDunc9 said:
Brazilian born Spanish international who was great alongside Xavi and Iniesta in Euro 2008. I thought he would of lasted a few more rounds but you never know with these things.
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Under 30 caps, too.
 
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