This is all true. But the truth is also that United are having one of the worst seasons since Sir Alex left, a big reason as of why you will most likely be getting CL qualification. That is my point but you seem to refuse to accept it. I've watched you guys play this season and you are by no means an impressive team, a bit more competition from other sides and you would likely finish 5th or 6th.
Err, bud, you do realise that since Ferguson left almost a decade ago now, you have only got over 70 points twice.This is all true. But the truth is also that United are having one of the worst seasons since Sir Alex left, a big reason as of why you will most likely be getting CL qualification. That is my point but you seem to refuse to accept it. I've watched you guys play this season and you are by no means an impressive team, a bit more competition from other sides and you would likely finish 5th or 6th.
Because Villa and Southampton are big banana skins and the fact their games in hand are absolute killers. Even Newcastle away isn’t Looking that bright. Just need a result at the Emirates to ram it home. Don’t they normally struggle v Brighton and their movement as well?Considering they are the same except we play City, they play West Ham (+ Watford, Villa, Southampton) how do you 'completely disagree'?
You seem to basically be agreeing. The only difference of opinion looks like being the relevance of the point you’re making.This is all true. But the truth is also that United are having one of the worst seasons since Sir Alex left, a big reason as of why you will most likely be getting CL qualification. That is my point but you seem to refuse to accept it. I've watched you guys play this season and you are by no means an impressive team, a bit more competition from other sides and you would likely finish 5th or 6th.
This game in hand dissecting needs to stop. We have 14 games left, including Spurs, Chelsea and Liverpool.their games in hand are absolute killers.
Its over for us after today, next games are against City away, home vs Spurs and Liverpool away. If we're lucky we'll take 3 points from those.
It's over, hopefully we can get 5th place, if not then we better end up 8th or below. That Conference league shit is only going to harm us.
Horrendous next three league games, definitely now relying on Arsenal slipping up a few times to let us back in
That's what the cups are for, we don't need to travel around Europe for a shit cup to do that.The conference league would be good to test young players and substitutes for competitive pace.
Gaining experience is important for these players.
After complete circus in management last 3 years, we will finish where we deserve to finish; 5th.
And i am not fussed about it. One year without CL will allow us to completely focus on PL and with right manager and transfers, challenge for it.
No chance 5 points. Hope for 4 points at best.Going to need a minimum of 5 points from 9 to stand a chance.
Without checking it (so i could be wrong). Leicester and Chelsea won it. Can't remember were Spurs in CL when they were "fighting" with Leicester.Genuine question, has any English team that's been in a Europa League campaign managed to challenge for the league the same season?
Not many teams go from 5th or lower to challenging in the next season. It's not really a Europa League thing.Genuine question, has any English team that's been in a Europa League campaign managed to challenge for the league the same season?
That's what the cups are for, we don't need to travel around Europe for a shit cup to do that.
Genuine question, has any English team that's been in a Europa League campaign managed to challenge for the league the same season?
Not many teams go from 5th or lower to challenging in the next season. It's not really a Europa League thing.
Liverpool in their 'Gerrard slip' season did it. Leicester went from fighting relegation to winning the title next season. Conte took over after Chelsea finished mid table to win the title.
And what they all have in common is no European football at all.
Arsenal will make CL but will be nowhere near the title next season. Europa isn't the issue.Liverpool in their 'Gerrard slip' season did it. Leicester went from fighting relegation to winning the title next season. Conte took over after Chelsea finished mid table to win the title. Whereas challenging for the title while in Europa I'm struggling to think of any examples.
Because Villa and Southampton are big banana skins and the fact their games in hand are absolute killers. Even Newcastle away isn’t Looking that bright. Just need a result at the Emirates to ram it home. Don’t they normally struggle v Brighton and their movement as well?
Serious question, do you think there's much difference between League One and conference league teams?In the first rounds United will play teams of very low category. Elanga, Mejbri and other players there won't get experience. And in rounds against strong teams they won't play. In the league conference yes.
But hey, we also don't know who the next coach will be and what plans there are.
Serious question, do you think there's much difference between League One and conference league teams?
We still have to play them but if we don't get anything from City and Liverpool this month and they win their games in hand, it's over for us.That late goal for Arsenal and our draw today just makes it always certain that Arsenal will get it.
We still have to play them but if we don't get anything from City and Liverpool this month and they win their games in hand, it's over for us.
Arsenal is in rebuilding phase. 4th place is a big challenge already let alone titleArsenal will make CL but will be nowhere near the title next season. Europa isn't the issue.
(We won't challenge for the title next season either whether we're CL, EL, ECL or none).
We threw the towel in when we refused to bring in a midfielder in January. It's an Arsenal and Tottenham race.
We constantly see what a fresh Matic offers, but we can't rely on him as he stays fresh for as long as milk out the fridge. There were midfielders we could've got who offered what he does more consistently, too, which is the frustrating part.This is a key point. We didn’t need to bring in THE midfielder, but we needed to bring in A midfielder who could orchestrate the transition from defense to offense better than either McTominay or Fred can.
But no, we did not. We will pay for this mistake.
We constantly see what a fresh Matic offers, but we can't rely on him as he stays fresh for as long as milk out the fridge. There were midfielders we could've got who offered what he does more consistently, too, which is the frustrating part.
Arsenal are almost certainly ahead of schedule as a team, whilst we are clearly not great, I can see progress and direction. To think we can challenge next season is ridiculous, nobody thinks that, especially as we likely won't have the benefit of playing once a week. If you offered me 4th/4th now for this season and next I would take your hand off.Arsenal is in rebuilding phase. 4th place is a big challenge already let alone title
Arsenal wouldn't be within 5 points if they had already played Liverpool, City and Spurs.
Anyone can drop points to Wolves and Brighton, they are decent sides.
