I think that'll play into next season as he's desperate to be loved and an absolute shithoute, now he knows he can get away with his shithousery and also be loved for it
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I think that'll play into next season as he's desperate to be loved and an absolute shithoute, now he knows he can get away with his shithousery and also be loved for it
Agreed
Also, what the hell was the point of the Starlight doing light shit on Soldier Boy scene when it did nothing to him?
And why did Homelander's lasers do nothing to him but Ryan's knocked him way back?
And Maeve survives that awful fall and apparently Elena is just back.. ready to move on with their life on the run, sorry, on a farm, cause.. she is from somewhere with farms, i guess. Oh and I guess her boning Butcher served ... erm... what purpose exactly?
God it was such a shit finale. For a show that supposedly goes against the trope it was so by the numbers.
Agreed. The Starlight buff doing nothing was poor, and I'm not sure what the point of how things ended for Maeve was
Ah, of that's the case that's a great moment. Cheers for letting me know!
I have to agree with a lot of people here, great season let down by a predictable sloppy ending. Like the wrote themselves into a corner and then thought "shit, we have another season to do. We better Deus Ex Ryan our way out of here!". In the end it doesn't feel like the story has moved forward at all. Sure, some things happened. Ryan is with his dad and looks like he's going be cnut.jr. The boys are still the boys, with one new member who was kind of already a member anyway. Head popper is still a threat. etc etc.
Also, I really need to find a t shirt that says "Raw dog me, Im a bottom!". That was fecking epic
Also, I really need to find a t shirt that says "Raw dog me, Im a bottom!". That was fecking epic
The fight between Homelander and Maeve whist entertaining just didn't make sense. Their entire dynamic throughout the 3 seasons was basically that Homelander could feck her up at the drop of a hat if she stepped out of line. Now she's pretty much matching him in a fight?
Also, what the hell was the point of the Starlight doing light shit on Soldier Boy scene when it did nothing to him?
And why did Homelander's lasers do nothing to him but Ryan's knocked him way back?
And Maeve survives that awful fall and apparently Elena is just back.. ready to move on with their life on the run, sorry, on a farm, cause.. she is from somewhere with farms, i guess. Oh and I guess her boning Butcher served ... erm... what purpose exactly?
God it was such a shit finale. For a show that supposedly goes against the trope it was so by the numbers.
When you put it all down on the page
I guess that's the thing, the biggest development is that Ryan is with Homelander, but he didn't have a significant role this season.I have to agree with a lot of people here, great season let down by a predictable sloppy ending. Like the wrote themselves into a corner and then thought "shit, we have another season to do. We better Deus Ex Ryan our way out of here!". In the end it doesn't feel like the story has moved forward at all. Sure, some things happened. Ryan is with his dad and looks like he's going be cnut.jr. The boys are still the boys, with one new member who was kind of already a member anyway. Head popper is still a threat. etc etc.
Also, I really need to find a t shirt that says "Raw dog me, Im a bottom!". That was fecking epic
The guy who did (Soldier boy), barely made an impact and the 2 minor character arcs that got resolved (Maeve and Noir) weren't satisfying to say the least.
Yes it was poorly written. IIRC at the start of the season, Maeve was training to buy a few a seconds of time in her own words. The show easily ignores the rules they've laid out for themselves and it'd being a fantasy show, it just means the writers can deus ex machina everything on a whim.
I liked the episode, up until we saw that Maeuve is still alive and so is Soldier Boy. Do agree with people that it makes that final scene sort of pointless.
The only redemption for that would've been if Solider Boy somehow returns later on the series because he was a great character.
And for people saying Maeuve putting up a fight was surprising, I think Homelander was going light on her at first and when he started putting in more effort he was about to kill her.
One thing I did love was Neumann and her being a villain for next season, love her character.
The scene with starlight building up all that power just to knock Solider Boy down for a few seconds was a perfect metaphor for the season, such great buildup to the finale but then sort of disappointing
The only redemption for that would've been if Solider Boy somehow returns later on the series because he was a great character.
And for people saying Maeuve putting up a fight was surprising, I think Homelander was going light on her at first and when he started putting in more effort he was about to kill her.
One thing I did love was Neumann and her being a villain for next season, love her character.
The scene with starlight building up all that power just to knock Solider Boy down for a few seconds was a perfect metaphor for the season, such great buildup to the finale but then sort of disappointing
I can understand for Maeve, but why would anyone think Solider Boys was dead, he is basically indestructible, why would fall of a building kill him?
I thought he blew himself up Vegeta style.
Ryan seems to have turbo lasers. Homelanders barely phased Stormfront but Ryan turned her into Darth Nazi.
I couldn't remember if he was taking it easy but based on this video he turned up the heat
To be fair, it stunned him long enough for everyone to grab hold of him.
He was definitely holding back. They hadn't discussed a safe word.
Maybe each version improves.
SB's jizz made Homelander who can fly, laser vision, super hearing etc.
Homelander's jizz made Ryan who might be even more powerful.
With regards to Maeve matching Homelander, I got the impression that Homelander’s multiple exposures to Soldier Boy had made him slightly weaker. Hence the bruise and the nose bleeding.
Maeve was going at 100% trying to kill him. He was swatting her away trying to get to his son and Soldier Boy. I got the impression that she surprised him a bit (they did make a point to show she was training for this fight) but he was in never any real danger and could have killed her if he really wanted to.
I knew Ryan was going to turn bad as soon as they introduced him (in S2, the one right at the end of S1 is a different kid), based entirely on him being proper fecking weird looking.
Great season, but not a great finale. Maeve and Soldier Boy surviving seemed a little bit of a cop out. It seemed like they were building up to at least one major character being wiped out. Not counting Black Noir as a major character, since we barely see him and he says nothing, but now knowing his origin story, it's a bit of a shame we didn't see more of him.
Great season, but not a great finale. Maeve and Soldier Boy surviving seemed a little bit of a cop out. It seemed like they were building up to at least one major character being wiped out. Not counting Black Noir as a major character, since we barely see him and he says nothing, but now knowing his origin story, it's a bit of a shame we didn't see more of him.
Bit disappointing to be honest. Very much one of those series finales that goes big on spectacle and moment without actually altering the show status quo that much, which after all the build up was a bit of a cop out.
I never really understood the plan from the MM/Starlight side, cos it seemed more like a slightly contrived way for the show to complicate the plan to stop Homelander, which is something they obviously didn’t want to happen. The final fight also felt like a checklist of events and cursory motivations to avoid the big main thing from happening.
Ryan turning evil is somewhat interesting but doesn’t really feel like enough of a thing to justify the whole season, considering it’s pretty much the only thing drastically different from the start.
EdIt: Ah, I see everyone else thought that too then!
I never really understood the plan from the MM/Starlight side, cos it seemed more like a slightly contrived way for the show to complicate the plan to stop Homelander, which is something they obviously didn’t want to happen. The final fight also felt like a checklist of events and cursory motivations to avoid the big main thing from happening.
Ryan turning evil is somewhat interesting but doesn’t really feel like enough of a thing to justify the whole season, considering it’s pretty much the only thing drastically different from the start.
EdIt: Ah, I see everyone else thought that too then!
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Yeah I kept going back and forth between "is that a smirk?" and "no nevermind" because the change was so subtle. Very well done.
Otherwise I agree with a lot of people in that the finale wasn't all that, which was disappointing seeing as this season has been really good in general.
The Deep is the best character in this. The guy just goes round mouth raping women, and shagging octopus and dolphins and shit.
Saw the finale described as the most MCU the Boys has ever got and I couldn't agree more.
Logan Roy vibes.
Homelander needed to go or lose his powers. Now that season was rendered basically pointless. The writers are planning to milk this show in typical fashion. The whole dialogue was cringe as feck as well, as if written by Hughie.
Yep. No conclusion to anything in the main arc, 'cause we need season after season after...
Funny, that I agree with most of the takes about how the season ended. This happens rarely, but yeah the ending was kind of back to square 1 after three seasons.
Wasn't much of a 'finale' but still enjoyed it.
Good season up until the finale which just made the last 7 episodes pointless.
Soldier boy was one of the best characters though, hope he comes back later down the line.
Soldier boy was one of the best characters though, hope he comes back later down the line.
To be fair she did say once she could get a few licks in before he destroyed her and she sort of did that.
Agree with this, it's hard to write finales and it has been building to a big fight but yeah agreed.
I enjoyed the finale. The season overall was great entertainment
However I agree that if you went from season 2 into the next season you haven't missed much as you're in the same place bar a few things (few deaths, and a character being in a higher power as VP candidate).
Hughie being dissed every time is hilarious. Not sure why but it's just the constant ragging on him everytime he enters a room or is brought into a convo
Anthony Starr deserves all the awards. Fantastic. Also Karl urban is great as an actor.
However I agree that if you went from season 2 into the next season you haven't missed much as you're in the same place bar a few things (few deaths, and a character being in a higher power as VP candidate).
Hughie being dissed every time is hilarious. Not sure why but it's just the constant ragging on him everytime he enters a room or is brought into a convo
Anthony Starr deserves all the awards. Fantastic. Also Karl urban is great as an actor.
Anthony Starr is amazing but I would like to see a bit more nuance in the character now. Let's see some more of that weakness and family issues he has. Karl Urban as well only really shone in the last episode of S2. He's great as Butcher with the witty remarks but when he gets serious it's on another level.
Shout out to Colby Minifie / Ashley too, she's also really good.
Yes and No. He’s acted as a constant plot development device. That’s what he’s there for and I think it’s worked really well.
What did you want for Maeve? She’s had a fabulous end to end story arc. She started out manipulated, powerful and broken. She’s now in love, powerless, but happy.
Last episode left to watch. Loving it.
Yeah she’s dealt with a lot, and now has the opportunity to go away and just be a normal person living a quiet life which given how much she hated herself and everything about her life while with the Seven she now has closure and a chance at happiness with the person she loves is a very satisfying end (if it is the end of Maeve as you’d assume it is)
That's a fair point. I think a combination of some of the recent fakeout deaths, and knowing her comic book ending I felt this was one of the few changes I didn't like, but on reflection you're right about her story arc.
Wait a fecking minute, Billy Butcher is Éomer from Lotr
Imagine if at first light on the fifth day, everybody at Helms Deep looked to the east and heard "oi cnut"Wait a fecking minute, Billy Butcher is Éomer from Lotr
He's also Bones in star trek.Wait a fecking minute, Billy Butcher is Éomer from Lotr