The bad (typically gun related) things happening in America thread

Saw some official statistics this week to show that of the more than 16,000 gun deaths in the US so far this year only 2.6% were in self-defence. And I imagine a lot of those were by the police, whether justified or not. But the NRA and others say we all need guns for protection, right?
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The vast majority are actually suicide

TBH I would be amazed if that 2.6% was accurate, I would have thought it would be 1% or less but who knows
 
The only option left is an executive order from POTUS that hits hard as feck against anyone owning any firearm other than a hunting rifle. When you choose to not take the carrot, the stick is the only other way.

As a precedent of a POTUS signing such an executive order that forces Americans to surrender a certain type of goods was FDR in April 1933, when Executive Order 6102 required Americans to surrender their gold (other than gold jewelry, gold coins, and a very small amount of gold bullion) to the government for payment of the then prevailing value of the gold surrendered. The purpose of #6102 was to prevent hoarding of gold that would have worsened the Depression. It was an emergency measure in short then, and thus we can use the same rationale for this kind of emergency.

People in polls HATE the way Joe Biden is taking on the current gun problem. I think most want him to swing the axe rather than rely on the same unreliables in Congress.
Gold isn't in the Constitution, guns are, because the current interpretation is that new/current laws have to be in accordance with 1780's norms and restrictions there isn't a whole lot Congress or the President can do

There is only one way to resolve this issue, un-elect every politician that will not vote to repeal the 2A
 
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The vast majority are actually suicide

TBH I would be amazed if that 2.6% was accurate, I would have thought it would be 1% or less but who knows

Well 43% is homicide. Over roughly 40k (37k in 2019 and raising) a year, is about 16k. About top 3 in the world in top death by country just counting homicidws vs total of the other countries (that have suicew too) and no were near to any developed country in absolute and relative terms
 
Well 43% is homicide. Over roughly 40k (37k in 2019 and raising) a year, is about 16k. About top 3 in the world in top death by country just counting homicidws vs total of the other countries (that have suicew too) and no were near to any developed country in absolute and relative terms
The only comparable country apparently is Brazil, suicide is 54% in the US it appears
 
The only comparable country apparently is Brazil, suicide is 54% in the US it appears

Yes but it seems too me (sorry if i misinterpreted you) that you tried to diminish the gun deaths in usa when without the suicides still a ridiculous amount of deaths for an advanced country
 
Yes but it seems too me (sorry if i misinterpreted you) that you tried to diminish the gun deaths in usa when without the suicides still a ridiculous amount of deaths for an advanced country
It's a ridiculous amount in an non-advanced country never mind an advanced one, no apology needed
 
Who cares. Guns go boom. Boom is fun. Boom is freedom. Death is a small price to pay (for the living) for freedom.
 




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Is this for real!? Like genuinely true?

How did it end?

That little 12 year old non white lad Tamir Rice got shot dead immediately for holding a fecking toy gun, and this fecker’s up at a vantage point with an Arsenal of lethal weapons and a Nazi flag for 6 HOURS without being taken out!?

Is this really true?
 
Is this for real!? Like genuinely true?

How did it end?

That little 12 year old non white lad Tamir Rice got shot dead immediately for holding a fecking toy gun, and this fecker’s up at a vantage point with an Arsenal of lethal weapons and a Nazi flag for 6 HOURS without being taken out!?

Is this really true?
Day ended in -y, that makes it true.
 
Is this for real!? Like genuinely true?

How did it end?

That little 12 year old non white lad Tamir Rice got shot dead immediately for holding a fecking toy gun, and this fecker’s up at a vantage point with an Arsenal of lethal weapons and a Nazi flag for 6 HOURS without being taken out!?

Is this really true?
Haven't read the story but I'm going to hazard a guess that it ended with the death of an innocent black bystander and our man with the swastika flag got a stern talking to.
 
Is this for real!? Like genuinely true?

How did it end?

That little 12 year old non white lad Tamir Rice got shot dead immediately for holding a fecking toy gun, and this fecker’s up at a vantage point with an Arsenal of lethal weapons and a Nazi flag for 6 HOURS without being taken out!?

Is this really true?


Apparently he committed suicide but I haven't seen any reports just Tweets saying that. It was actually going on for a lot longer than 6 hours too, and this is at least the THIRD time he's done it. Apparently his house windows were openly covered with Nazi flags too.
 
And, as a bonus, there's another Florida man story via a link of his name in the article's last paragraph...

 
Maybe it’s a good thing. Maybe we need everyone to lose loved ones to gun violence before something changes. I know I’ve lost more than my fare share. Maybe it’s time for the rest of these feckers to find out what pain is.
 
Maybe it’s a good thing. Maybe we need everyone to lose loved ones to gun violence before something changes. I know I’ve lost more than my fare share. Maybe it’s time for the rest of these feckers to find out what pain is.
That's a little too far, it just needs to happen to politicians, they are the ones who can sort it out
 
That's a little too far, it just needs to happen to politicians, they are the ones who can sort it out
No. feck it. Politicians will always be grifting and blood sucking parasites. For real change to occur the voters who enable the cruelty need to feel it.
 
No. feck it. Politicians will always be grifting and blood sucking parasites. For real change to occur the voters who enable the cruelty need to feel it.
So we need a national competition, compulsory participation of all gun owners of "The Quick and the Dead" live on TV, 24/7 until the last man/woman is standing
 
So we need a national competition, compulsory participation of all gun owners of "The Quick and the Dead" live on TV, 24/7 until the last man/woman is standing
Yes. I’d sponsor it, but instead of the gun owners kicking the bucket it should be someone innocent they care about. Just to spice things up and make it a bit more relevant.
 
Yes. I’d sponsor it, but instead of the gun owners kicking the bucket it should be someone innocent they care about. Just to spice things up and make it a bit more relevant.
They stand behind, and if the weapon of choice is an AR-15 good luck to them, TBH they'll probably be taking part anyway
 
Yes. I’d sponsor it, but instead of the gun owners kicking the bucket it should be someone innocent they care about. Just to spice things up and make it a bit more relevant.
I've said that all along that if there was some way that victims of gun violence were restricted purely to fellow gun owners and families, we wouldn't need to give a feck and could just get on with our lives.

That's why I'm not so quick with the 'thoughts and prayers' anymore because the victims are probably gun owner/advocates themselves. Perhaps news outlets should report stories like "Joe Bloggs, a gun owner from Texas was shot dead during an incident in a supermarket" or "Mass shooting in Chicago sees 6 people injured and 5 killed. Nine of the victims are confirmed as fellow gun owners".

If they're not going to rid of them, I would be happy with this.
 
I've said that all along that if there was some way that victims of gun violence were restricted purely to fellow gun owners and families, we wouldn't need to give a feck and could just get on with our lives.

That's why I'm not so quick with the 'thoughts and prayers' anymore because the victims are probably gun owner/advocates themselves. Perhaps news outlets should report stories like "Joe Bloggs, a gun owner from Texas was shot dead during an incident in a supermarket" or "Mass shooting in Chicago sees 6 people injured and 5 killed. Nine of the victims are confirmed as fellow gun owners".

If they're not going to rid of them, I would be happy with this.
Yeah, feck off with this. My cousin never owned a gun, nor has anyone in my family. He’s still dead though. Restrict gun deaths to the families of gun owners. Let them all rot in their death. Couldn’t care less if any gun owner died.
 
Yeah, feck off with this. My cousin never owned a gun, nor has anyone in my family. He’s still dead though. Restrict gun deaths to the families of gun owners. Let them all rot in their death. Couldn’t care less if any gun owner died.
Where do I sign?