The Americas Draft, R1: P-Nut/D'cast vs Boris 5-8

Considering players at their peak, who will win the match?


  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
:)

The result before my posts: Boris 5-3 P-Nut
The result after my posts: Boris 5-3 P-Nut

I'm an Impact Assistant Manager :cool::cool:

Haha most people make their mind up early and then don't switch. There is usually a couple that wait to see the discussion unfold but that's about it usually.
 
I went for the Pnut team for now, but tbh I am not convinced on the Tevez Alves flank. I am also drinking heavily
 


Just a quick graphic to show my defensive set up.

As everyone knows it is usually the cbs that have the time and space to control the game. However this is an area I intend to attack. With my three industrious attackers I will have them hounding the cbs into a mistake. With the pitch largely congested this is going to cause problems for Boris and quick counter attacks for my team to punish.

Sitting deep until the opponent gets to around the half way line and allowing his defenders to bring the ball forward then causes him issues with how to exactly progress the ball into the dangerous areas without conceding possession.

@BorisDeLeFora tagging you so you have a chance to answer.
 


Just a quick graphic to show my defensive set up.

As everyone knows it is usually the cbs that have the time and space to control the game. However this is an area I intend to attack. With my three industrious attackers I will have them hounding the cbs into a mistake. With the pitch largely congested this is going to cause problems for Boris and quick counter attacks for my team to punish.

Sitting deep until the opponent gets to around the half way line and allowing his defenders to bring the ball forward then causes him issues with how to exactly progress the ball into the dangerous areas without conceding possession.

@BorisDeLeFora tagging you so you have a chance to answer.

Again sharemytactics is mugging me off. The white guy bottom right should be in a defensive midfield position for Boris but it won't save that way for some reason.
 
Now, the landscape is clear :cool:

True that share my tactics doesn't work very well.
 
Now, the landscape is clear :cool:

True that share my tactics doesn't work very well.

It's won't work on my phone for some reason. Keeps mugging me off
 
It's won't work on my phone for some reason. Keeps mugging me off

Oh! I wasn't ironical!

Impossible to delete some arrows (one strange arrow on Dani Alves & one with Nilton) when I update my pic
 
Oh! I wasn't ironical!

Impossible to delete some arrows (one strange arrow on Dani Alves & one with Nilton) when I update my pic

Oh I know it's crap. It's crazy there is nothing better knocking about.
 
All the formation sites are crap in one way or another. SMT is less crap - but that's about it. And - yes - it can be buggy as hell.

I wonder what the "pro" options on some of these sites actually are - there's no way I'm paying for stuff like that, though, but I'd like to know precisely what they offer.
 
Going for Boris.

P-Nut/Downcast not having a proper attacking creator to really open up Boris' defence on the counter really stifles their threat. Individually the front three are good players but they need a real provider to be fully effective. P-Nut/Downcasts defence is excellent but so is Boris attack. Plus with the amount of possession Boris will have it's much more likely Boris will score than P-Nut and Downcast on the counter.
 
Going for Boris.

P-Nut/Downcast not having a proper attacking creator to really open up Boris' defence on the counter really stifles their threat. Individually the front three are good players but they need a real provider to be fully effective. P-Nut/Downcasts defence is excellent but so is Boris attack. Plus with the amount of possession Boris will have it's much more likely Boris will score than P-Nut and Downcast on the counter.

Cerezo and Danilo are both excellent playmakers. And possession doesn't always equal goals especially not against a packed defence full of top quality defenders. Just look at Atletico they conceded possession to the big boys with the top quality attacks all the time and they have an excellent record against them.
 
Going for Boris.

P-Nut/Downcast not having a proper attacking creator to really open up Boris' defence on the counter really stifles their threat. Individually the front three are good players but they need a real provider to be fully effective. P-Nut/Downcasts defence is excellent but so is Boris attack. Plus with the amount of possession Boris will have it's much more likely Boris will score than P-Nut and Downcast on the counter.

In terms of dynamics, Dani Alvès & Nilton Santos would pose a tactical problem for Boris as they could be viewed as potential side-midfielders.

In terms of offensive creativity, Forlan is our man, a target man able to attract 2 defenders & organize the game as he successfully did with Uruguay. Not a traditional playmaker but a False 9 who enabled diverse tactical options with Uruguay.

Our offensive trio is creative in the sense that any of the 3 forwards are capable to operate inside & outside the penalty area.

We don't have 3 'GOATS' but 3 offensive forwards with a high work-rate.
 
Last edited:
Alexis Sanchez + Dani Alves against Felipe Luis?

 
This goal is very interesting because you are now in a position to understand our offensive strategy.

The starting point was Dani Alves on the right. You could see 3 offensive players and Fabregas (Cerezo) able to enlighten the game.

And Messi (Forlan) that provided the assist

Now, I don't need to make a lot of blah blah: this video is a good illustration of our plan.

Alexis Sanchez 39 goals in 88 games with Barcelona playing on the right flank (Messi being the #9)
 
Last edited:
That defensive set up is insane, think the lack of a kind of superstar attacker let ye down. I have lots of shiny names
 
That defensive set up is insane, think the lack of a kind of superstar attacker let ye down. I have lots of shiny names

Yeah I always try and be too clever in these drafts.

I wanted a super hard working team as a kind of anti-thesis to the samba football associated with south American football. That's why player like Tevez, Sanchez and Forlan made the team.

There aren't many players out there that are as attacking and work as hard as them 3.

The only draft I didn't try and be too clever in was my first in the newbies and I got to the final. The monopoly draft I think I'll go back to boring tactics for the first round at least and stop with my crazy tactical decisions.
 
That defensive set up is insane, think the lack of a kind of superstar attacker let ye down. I have lots of shiny names

I've chosen the defensive players and the subs so I would have preferred Ademir instead of Tevez for example.

TBH I did want something like:

---------------- Pereira + Santamaria + Quintano
Dani Alves
--------------------------------------------- Nilton Santos
--------------------------- Cerezo ---------------------
--------------- Rincon (available when we picked Danilo Alvim) or another pool 2 midfielder----------------------------------------

------- Zizinho (available when we picked Alexis Sanchez) ----------- Pool 2 forward (not a winger)----
-------------------------- Ademir de menezes -----

Or something like: Zizinho + Forlan + Pool 1 player (example: zagallo)

As an assistant, I respect the choices of @P-Nut0712 :)
 
Last edited:
The problem with alves for me is he went from above average right back to one of the best in the world thanks to messi.
He was amazing at Sevilla, being the best player and basically a playmaker from a right back position in 2 successful European campaigns (being voted UEFA Cup mvp in the second one). You'll struggle to name 5 fullbacks in history who were as influential for the successful side.

Of course Messi helped him to improve even further but I don't think that there is any other contemporary fullback (Lahm included) who could've done what Alves did for Barca.
 
He was amazing at Sevilla, being the best player and basically a playmaker from a right back position in 2 successful European campaigns (being voted UEFA Cup mvp in the second one). You'll struggle to name 5 fullbacks in history who were as influential for the successful side.

Of course Messi helped him to improve even further but I don't think that there is any other contemporary fullback (Lahm included) who could've done what Alves did for Barca.
It's always a game of two sides with Alves. On one side you have that amazing chemistry and evidence in his partnership with Leo, on the other outside of that Barca system even during his peak he was embarrassed at times by your run of the mill wingers e.g. Copa America 2011. For Brazil in general he has been pretty on and off and hasn't been able to contribute offensively either as he did for Barca. Overall I agree with David here, with him in the side the system and the players around him have a lot bigger say than they do usually.
 
For me, if P-Nut/Downcast had a winger (or Sanchez on the right) from the start, then I would have voted for them. Boris' back 4 is weak enough to be exploited, but it needed a winger to stretch the opposition.