So you think they're targeting specific players or have stopped their aggressive recruitment?
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So you think they're targeting specific players or have stopped their aggressive recruitment?
I think they're targeting to build a "team" for every year group. They wanted to play only U17s (first year scholars) in the U18s league initially this season and I think that will be their approach in the near future (build a very strong team at U14s-U16s level then move up most of that team to U18s level in their first year and to the U23s in their second year which allow them to send the lads out on loan earlier). There will be some exceptions obviously but I think that's their blueprint.
Even this hasn't happened, theyve consistently played 2nd year scholars this season for the u18s, yet that escapes people. I understand what you're saying, but if that's the case, there's no reason for them to sign Moulden and the Leicester keeper, when they already have Anderson, all for similar/same age groups. Just looks like they're stockpiling.
Moulden is U15s.Anderson is U16s.Of course they will play 2nd year scholars but look like that group will move up and down between U18s,U19s and U23s. Sort of a "transition" year. Only couple of them like Hardy played almost exclusively for the U18s.
We'll see how that works out, but I don't see the likes of Poveda moving up next year, when he's already struggling to start this season. Will just mean a backlog of players not getting games if they moved up the majority of the u17's next season, because it's highly unlikely they will get that many of the existing u23's out on loan or sold. Them signing Zinchenko made me think they're switching to a Chelsea like strategy of hoarding young talented potential first teamers, which in turn has problems for the academy.
Some rumors that City scout David Harrison could be made United's head of academy recruitment
Is that one of the scouts the mirror were talking about?
Mark Prizant also. Scouts the US for the club, came from Philadelphia Union.
Yeah it is
Add Luis Campos, who's supposedly working for us in a freelance capacity. Was the sporting director of Monaco, he found Martial for them and other talents. Don't know what region he's scouting, but probably looking at young players with potential.
Seems to be a lot of movement with regards to the academy and youth development.
- Manchester United appoint 50 new scouts in double-quick time as Premier League giants scour the globe for the next generation of young talent.
- It is understood first-team and academy recruitment now comes under the same umbrella. United previously had operated with a tight team reporting into management, particularly under Sir Alex Ferguson.
- Bout has risen to head of global scouting at Old Trafford - reported by Dutch newspaper AD - and will now work alongside chief scout Jim Lawlor.
- Armand Benneker, a Belgian former Dundee United central defender who had been working as a scout for St Gallen in Switzerland, is the latest arrival.
Roy Beukenkamp, Henny de Regt and Tommy Moller Nielsen are all working in Europe. The latter is stationed in Scandinavia, a region Premier League sides are targeting strongly. United’s global band of scouts will fly into Carrington twice a year for briefings as the club continues to monitor its recruitment strategy.
You are right about Giggs - as I recall from his book - he trained with City once - but he also wrote that City weren't even his second choice. Basically he said that there was no chance of him joining City - it wasn't even close.
Wow! We're really getting aggressive with improving our scouting network.. Academy is in good shape now, should only get better with time if we keep this investment up
Luis Campos who's said to be working for us, is supposedly in advanced talks with Marseille to be their Sporting Director. He's said to be keen on the position.
Quick question - does anybody know if these scouts are limited to academy players or will they also scout for the first team? I'd imagine it's both, surely?
Was just about to post this. Good to see we're making some real positive strides here
Wrong fact again. McAtee joined City at 11 not 14 so not sure where's that "Giggs moment" came from.
Are all the players in United's academy up to u14's locally based?
Your travelling time can't be more than 60 minutes from the training ground at those ages I think.
Cheers, what age does that change?
For category 1 teams the rules for travel time are
u9-u11 1 hour
u12-u16 No limit for Academy Players engaged in the Full Time Training Model, 1 ½ hours for all other Academy Players in the Youth Development Phase.
u17-u21 no limit
www.thefa.com/~/media/C2FB1444624F4367AA477A72D94B50BF.ashx
Will the HS2 help us there...?
Lol, has that even been given the go-ahead?
The Academy are finally up and running with the Premier League PMA system
What is the PMA he speaks of. Why, what? This: The search for tomorrow's champions
Sounds good, step in the right direction certainly.
Brighton's head of academy recruitment Mark Anderson has joined United
Anyone know anything about him?
From what I've heard David Harrison will join United as head of academy recruitment with Lyndon Tomlinson as assistant. Both formerly at City and we're bringing in a 3rd City academy scout Ronnie Cusick as well
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Any updates on the search for a full time u23 manager?
Haven't heard anything but it probably won't be long before Bruno Ribeiro is linked with the job since he's friends with Jose and has left Port Vale
Cool. Any idea how he likes to set up his teams?
I doubt we will bring him in was just saying I wouldn't be surprised to see him linked to the job