Yeah I agree, we did at least get that game turned round quickly and should have got 3 points there. The Sheff Utd game again we can criticise him for first half but you then have to give credit for how he changed it and we got 3-2 up then chucked it away at the end. Today we did the same but players have to take more responsibility tonight we where soft as shite first half@LJJT
Sheffield United 2 - 0 Manchester United after 50 minutes and completely dominated.
guess the midfield.
The “Ole In” Brigade
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You do understand Ole in means you are in full support of Woodward? He is his "project" and Ole will back the board regardless of what happens.
Unless you are happy with how the club is run there is absolutely no reason to support a Woodward puppet, absolutely not a single one.
There are some people, in their psyche, who believe that the people in charge will sort it and that the subordinates (in this case, fans) should support the leaders of the organisation (in this case Ole and Woodward).
This happens in big companies and organisations. Things are going drastically wrong, but some workers will say, "our bosses/managers will sort it out". A few months later, the company goes into administration.
This is a way of thinking which cannot be logically explained. It's blind faith.
Eventually, the manager will be fired (because that's what Woodward does), a new manager will be hired and these same fans will say, "trust the new manager". This way of thinking is embedded into some people.
Is this thread for real?
I wish people would just realise he’s simply not good enough. I’m not a fan of sacking managers but in any company, business or organisation if the top dog isn’t getting the best of the people under him and doesn’t not have a plan b for when things don’t work out then they get sacked.
There’s no kind of philosophy at our club it’s a total shambles from top to bottom. Was watching the game and my heart just sank. In all my years of supporting United i just pity the other fans that go to games and get treated with rubbish like this.
There’s no kind of philosophy at our club it’s a total shambles from top to bottom. Was watching the game and my heart just sank. In all my years of supporting United i just pity the other fans that go to games and get treated with rubbish like this.
Not a small brigade tbf. Every opposition fan is in it too.
There’s still a lot of players out there, that would be stepping up playing for us, earning more money than they are on now, plus the worldwide fame and status for playing for united. There’s plenty of players out there that yeah we may have to pay over the odds on the transfer fee but not the wages
Any good manager will make us play better. Poch, Rodgers, Ten Hag, Nagelsmann, Rose, Allegri - whoever you pick - he will be miles better than Ole.
He might not bring us the treble in the next season but will be a step in the right direction.
Learning from a mistake and not appointing nobodies like Ole would be a very good lesson.
Appointing dinosaurs also.
Ole In is a cult movement, if he hadn’t of played for us these same so called fans would go to Old Trafford personally to throw him out. But because he has legendary status he deserves to do as he pleases like picking JlingZ...
I prefer the term ‘Pro Ole’ personally. Has a much nicer ring to it.
Those won't qualify as top players.
Those players will need extensive coaching and guidance to become top players under a good coach and experienced manager with progressive ideas. Ole hasn't improved the players he has only to make us regress, despite bringing in 150m worth of players during the Summer, and all three of them are starting to look worse in the last couple of months game after game.
Also Maguire won't be getting the same money anywhere else if you ask me. Even City pulled out.
That's actually a very good depiction of them, should relate them to it
We are in the position of picking whichever XI is fit and fresh unfortunately. Look at our benches if you doubt it.
I will remain Ole in until the time comes when we have a squad that is any better on paper than how we are performing. We will be scrapping for results for the rest of the season.
Atleast he isn't smiling like an idiot in the post match interview, right? I'd take that for now. Fantastic player for us, but an absolutely terrible manager, especially for a big club. This romanticism towards him are going to bring this club down; especially if he's allowed to stay more and continues to bring in the players he wants.
Oh there's absolutely no doubt about.
As if Leftback, Lentwood, Wummy, Vidicbas would be backing Paul Jewell if he'd come in in December 2018 and had similar results. They'd be foaming at the mouth.
Because that will be his fault or the owners and people that actually do the buying?
Still in.
State of that team tonight. We get a couple Injuries and we go from good 11 to absolute shambles on paper and on pitch.
Said it all along he needs another 3 windows to sort this squad out. Tonight was basically the finished product of 6 years of neglect.
Anyone expecting serious result and performance tonight is mad with that team out.
Defo not a match to be slating the manager. No matter what team he puts on its poor.
State of that team tonight. We get a couple Injuries and we go from good 11 to absolute shambles on paper and on pitch.
Said it all along he needs another 3 windows to sort this squad out. Tonight was basically the finished product of 6 years of neglect.
Anyone expecting serious result and performance tonight is mad with that team out.
Defo not a match to be slating the manager. No matter what team he puts on its poor.
Has Ole ever said something bad about the board or have criticized them? Will Ole ever say something that is not aligned with Woodward?
If you are supporting him you are in full support of Woodward, simple as.
You do realise he has decided to gut the squad that finished 2nd and go with this squad?
Kin ell people, you don't back a manager because his squad is shit when he is responsible for it being shit and light.
In fairness he did what 99% of Utd fans wanted, do not see a tear being shed for any of the players that he has ditched, the problem is the lack of replacements and the extended absence of Pogba in particular
Absolutely no sane supporter wanted to have those senior players leave without being replaced.
The opposite in fact, sacking him gives the board and owners another 6-12 months to say we have a new plan without everyone going mad at them.
The fans sticking with the manager and turning on the board and owners will be the only way change for the good will happen.
I know, it was pure popularism and it was genius. All the people backing him still are doing it for that alone.
As @Enigma_87 was alluding to, selling Fellaini is great if someone decent comes in his place, it's a diabolical decision if Andreas is playing in CM the next season. Alienating Matic, similar story. Loaning Smalling but going to Jones when Maguire needs a rest. Allowing Lukaku to leave was another shocker.
It was popularism at it's finest and it's left the squad that finished 2nd looking weak as piss with less chance of attracting new players to play with the piss. With less chance of good football or good results to attract new good players.
Ole has set us back, big time, make no mistake about it.
How do you side with the manager but not with the board when the manager is in full support of the board and will do whatever they say to him because there is no hope in hell he will land a top job anywhere else?
Are you for real? People were mad at the board ever since they appointed Moyes? They aren't getting a free pass, yet you are giving Ole - who is their puppet - one?
That shows his naivety if he thought he could go through a season with not replacing the players.
They sack Ole it will relieve the pressure on them, i don’t want that.
Gross negligence of the highest order you'd call it in any other business.
Disgusting Summer trying to be Mr Popular and play his holier than thou card of what a United player is, Ole aint remotely close to being a good enough manager to play that card.
No it won't. In what World does that relieve pressure?
they will qualify as top players. The whole Leicester midfield as an example would walk in to our team. They are all on about £50K a week or so, we can double that easy and they won’t turn in to mercenaries. The problem is we won’t pay the transfer fees. There’s loads of players would improve us that we don’t have to give Sanchez type wages to. Agree Maguire wouldn’t get our wages any where else but he’s one of our best players and one of the first names on the team sheet, and aside from tonight he’s not a crock
How that works?
Apparently they have a 'plan' with Ole.
It's the board who appointed him, Ole being a failure is a straight shot at them.
1-3 at home against City in the first of a two-leg round is getting us back into the game?
With this squad, these injuries, general play and outlook on strengthening the team?
Yeah but what happens when you all back Solskjaer and then he's given 5 years and is still underperforming ?
Fans need to be realistic from a business perspective the club is the glazers commodity, they have more loyalty to Woodward then the manager. So given that the glazers own the club and Woodward is a direct employee of their business strategy who will get sacked first if things go south. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out.
Backing Ole and wanting Woodward out is viable in terms of emotive thinking but in the real world of this club being a business it's almost mutually exclusive.
He has deteriorated lately and he has his weaknesses. He's not a 80m defender and clubs buy a lot smarter than this and actually improve players to his level.
Leicester finished 9th last season 14 points behind us with the same midfield and set of players, younger Vardy and even 80m Maguire in it. They are now way ahead of us and it isn't because they bought new players on a 50k per week.
Fans also need to realise that shit owners require a top manager.
Shit owners and a shit manager, how does any fan think that will turn out well. SAF had these owners and no problems winning shed loads so an amazing manager can do it.
A very good manager can at least get us in a much better position than we are in now, even with these owners.
Shit owners and a shit manager, how does any fan think that will turn out well. SAF had these owners and no problems winning shed loads so an amazing manager can do it.
A very good manager can at least get us in a much better position than we are in now, even with these owners.
I agree with you but and the big BUT is we needed to replace the players that left with better quality. That was the issue.
Instead we promoted youth players that weren’t ready and using squad players that are worse than the players we sold.
We cannot improve buying just 3 players a season.
A fresh start, we go again, new manager wants to look at the current players before signing any new ones all the usual bullshit will be rolled out and 2 years later we will be here again.
Fans turning on Glazers and Woodward, what fans? Those on OT? Good one.
Martin Edwards said the easy choice back in 1990 would have been to sack SAF because it’s what the fans and press wanted. So yeah I’ll listen to your opinion.