The left wing is still not bad but the right wing is pretty average. Would have liked to have gotten Dembele or even Draxler for that side.
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The left wing is still not bad but the right wing is pretty average. Would have liked to have gotten Dembele or even Draxler for that side.
Rose is a decent left back but he's not required. Luke Shaw will be back and be firing on all cylinders given the entire team will be performing.
Pointless comment really but yeh I do. Anything useful to say?
Dembele would be brilliant but looks like he's going to Barcelona. But that's the thing. We have plenty of above average players. What we need is world class quaity. No point in just adding another decent player.
I agree. No club is going to sell a major player mid-season. Also, any significant signing may not be available for the CL.
So what if we beat a West Ham with injuries. I don't believe we'll win the league without another wide option. LB or winger.
Considering the money we've spent and buying two top players in Matic and Lukaku, I still think this isn't a good enough window. Not strengthening a real weakness last season is disappointing.
Considering the money we've spent and buying two top players in Matic and Lukaku, I still think this isn't a good enough window. Not strengthening a real weakness last season is disappointing.
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Our attacking play won't be good enough unless Shaw comes back a different player. It's always guesswork from ESPN anyway.
My issue is more with the fact that we seem obsessed with fecking Perisic of all players. We've tried to sign him all summer without even enquiring about other options on the wing (reportedly) and now that we told Inter to feck off with their asking price we are left without the winger we needed before the summer. I wouldn't even have an issue making a move for just a decent player, because the bottom line is we are very thin on the wings if injuries come calling.
Definitely OK with me if we don't sign anyone else this window. Evolution vs revolution - too much change isn't necessarily needed, as this team was on the cusp of being top 4 (even top 3) but made a calculated gamble on the EL as the better proposition to get to the CL. Matic & Lukaku seem to be brilliant buys, while Lindelof seems to need some time to bed in & get into Jose's system. Expecting to change out a quarter of your first XI, let alone over half the team's spine and expect instant results is asking for a bit too much.
I also find search for 'value' justified, especially in this overheated market. Yeah, it could be argued Lukaku & Matic were a bit over-priced, but when compared to the rest of the market (post Neymar), they are almost bargains. Considering they are both PL proven, you could say it was money well spent. With Perisic, Inter started high, even before the Neymar effect. As it is, he'd cost 2/3 of Lukaku and more than Matic. At a certain point, you do have to hold the line, or else you wind up paying 45mil for a Gylfi Siggurdson or 40mil for Drinkwater. I'd rather do our business like Juventus than a PSG or Man City.
I also find search for 'value' justified, especially in this overheated market. Yeah, it could be argued Lukaku & Matic were a bit over-priced, but when compared to the rest of the market (post Neymar), they are almost bargains. Considering they are both PL proven, you could say it was money well spent. With Perisic, Inter started high, even before the Neymar effect. As it is, he'd cost 2/3 of Lukaku and more than Matic. At a certain point, you do have to hold the line, or else you wind up paying 45mil for a Gylfi Siggurdson or 40mil for Drinkwater. I'd rather do our business like Juventus than a PSG or Man City.
Jose Mourinho is prepared to wait until January before making further additions to his Manchester United squad after deciding against funding a move for a fourth summer signing by offloading his fringe players, sources have told ESPN FC.
United have spent in excess of £160 million by signing Romelu Lukaku, Victor Lindelof and Nemanja Matic from Everton, Benfica and Chelsea respectively this summer.
Mourinho has made it clear that he handed executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward a target list of four players at the end of last season, but efforts to add a winger to his squad have proved frustrating, with United failing to make progress in a move for Inter Milan's Ivan Perisic.
Long-standing interest in Gareth Bale has also come to nothing, with the Real Madrid player displaying no inclination to leave the European champions.
Mourinho remains keen to add a further attacking player to his squad, but he is aware that he will have to sell at least one member of his squad before making a final move in the transfer market before the Aug. 31 deadline.
And with the United manager reluctant to upset the harmony of his squad, sources have told ESPN FC that Mourinho would now rather wait until January before reassessing his options.
Jose Mourinho saw new signings Romelu Lukaku and Nemanja Matic impress in their Premier League opener.
Despite reducing the squad wage bill by around £500,000-a-week with the sale of Wayne Rooney to Everton and the departure of the injured Zlatan Ibrahimovic, United have only raised £9.8m in sales this summer from Adnan Januzaj's transfer to Real Sociedad.
The January exits of Morgan Schneiderlin and Memphis Depay to Everton and Lyon respectively raised £50m and United have had interest in several members of their squad this summer.
But while the likes of Chris Smalling, Anthony Martial, Matteo Darmian and Marouane Fellaini all face battles to secure regular first-team football this season, Mourinho is unwilling to sanction their departures -- particularly so in the case of Smalling and Darmian due to the injuries that currently sideline Luke Shaw and Marcos Rojo.
January could lead to a change of outlook, especially if Shaw and Rojo return to form and fitness, while Mourinho is prepared to offer Ibrahimovic a short-term deal in the New Year if the Swedish forward successfully returns to action following his cruciate ligament injury.
But with the transfer window due to close in 15 days, Mourinho is now planning to work with the squad at his disposal unless an unexpected opportunity to make a signing arises over the next fortnight.
Source: http://www.espnfc.com/story/3181130...-for-fourth-manchester-united-signing-sources
United have spent in excess of £160 million by signing Romelu Lukaku, Victor Lindelof and Nemanja Matic from Everton, Benfica and Chelsea respectively this summer.
Mourinho has made it clear that he handed executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward a target list of four players at the end of last season, but efforts to add a winger to his squad have proved frustrating, with United failing to make progress in a move for Inter Milan's Ivan Perisic.
Long-standing interest in Gareth Bale has also come to nothing, with the Real Madrid player displaying no inclination to leave the European champions.
Mourinho remains keen to add a further attacking player to his squad, but he is aware that he will have to sell at least one member of his squad before making a final move in the transfer market before the Aug. 31 deadline.
And with the United manager reluctant to upset the harmony of his squad, sources have told ESPN FC that Mourinho would now rather wait until January before reassessing his options.
Jose Mourinho saw new signings Romelu Lukaku and Nemanja Matic impress in their Premier League opener.
Despite reducing the squad wage bill by around £500,000-a-week with the sale of Wayne Rooney to Everton and the departure of the injured Zlatan Ibrahimovic, United have only raised £9.8m in sales this summer from Adnan Januzaj's transfer to Real Sociedad.
The January exits of Morgan Schneiderlin and Memphis Depay to Everton and Lyon respectively raised £50m and United have had interest in several members of their squad this summer.
But while the likes of Chris Smalling, Anthony Martial, Matteo Darmian and Marouane Fellaini all face battles to secure regular first-team football this season, Mourinho is unwilling to sanction their departures -- particularly so in the case of Smalling and Darmian due to the injuries that currently sideline Luke Shaw and Marcos Rojo.
January could lead to a change of outlook, especially if Shaw and Rojo return to form and fitness, while Mourinho is prepared to offer Ibrahimovic a short-term deal in the New Year if the Swedish forward successfully returns to action following his cruciate ligament injury.
But with the transfer window due to close in 15 days, Mourinho is now planning to work with the squad at his disposal unless an unexpected opportunity to make a signing arises over the next fortnight.
Source: http://www.espnfc.com/story/3181130...-for-fourth-manchester-united-signing-sources
Why does someone have to be sold before a 4th signing is made?
Our wage structure should be good.
Our wage structure should be good.
No idea. But, we do have quite a few players that can be offloaded starting with Ashley Young, Jese Lengard, Chris Smalling...
I agree on the Perisic obsession and then not having alternatives at all but we aren't really short on numbers out wide with Martial,Lingard, Mata, Rashford, Mkhi and young all options.
Looks like we're gonna end up entering an even more over-priced Jan window when our inevitable injury crisis kicks in after 2-3months of the season.
Probably spending a fortune on a Full-back of some variety. Ah well, let's see how it pans out.
Probably spending a fortune on a Full-back of some variety. Ah well, let's see how it pans out.
This article means feck all. It might be true, but then again it might be a negotiating position for further potential signings this Summer. We won't know till September.
Given that United have nothing to gain from leaking a story like this unless it's false, my money would (just) be on it being deliberately planted.
We've barely talked to the media since Mourinho arrived. There's no point in doing so now without there being something to gain from it.
Given that United have nothing to gain from leaking a story like this unless it's false, my money would (just) be on it being deliberately planted.
We've barely talked to the media since Mourinho arrived. There's no point in doing so now without there being something to gain from it.
Wonder if it is a good idea to wait than to just off-load some players who we know are surplus to requirement? Why pay their wages needlessly?
Now that you mention it. Lighten up.
I was a Januzaj fan as well - without the imprudence of putting him in my username though. No Absolute playing for United has ever let me down.
We could know tomorrow, or the next day, or the day after that, or as you said September.
I'm with you. I think it's a BS article.
If we drop points between now and the window closes there'll be a signing.
Because we have too work to a budget. We don't have an entire country selling off their natural resources to fund our transfers so we have to balance the books!
Wages will play a part but we have shareholders and a share price to think of. Can't just been seen to be brazenly throwing cash around, especially not at a time when there are whispers about one or two of the Glazers thinking about getting out
At least your spine is sorted out. Delaying to sign a winger could prove to be a great opportunity for Martial or Rashford to be main players for Jose
This is just a tactic, we've seen it many times before
You tell the fans publicly that you don't anticipate any more signings. This way any clubs Man Utd are dealing with don't have the upper hand, in terms of knowing United will disappoint their fans if the transfer isn't completed.
This gives you United a better bargaining position and are less likely to be ripped off. Personally, I think we will make one more signing.
You tell the fans publicly that you don't anticipate any more signings. This way any clubs Man Utd are dealing with don't have the upper hand, in terms of knowing United will disappoint their fans if the transfer isn't completed.
This gives you United a better bargaining position and are less likely to be ripped off. Personally, I think we will make one more signing.
It may well be by the time we're in a position for another player it won't be a winger at all. I hope that is the case as I like Martial and Rashford.
We will know more in the press conference on friday. I think only Ogden is running with the story and his record isnt great since LVG/Moyes left.
We need fullbacks before any kind of winger.
Come on mods shut this thread down we already have one for this story
This is exactly the case.
How I see things,
> Perisic boat has sailed (great for Martial & Rashford)
> no clear cut LB available so Shaw will be given a final chance to prove himself this year
> Aurier is the only realistic one remaining to sign as the 4th and final transfer; if his case is cleared before the window closes, he'll join. If not, then that's that and unfortunate.
They don't, it is one of the silly phrases that have somehow become gospel. Given the way most transfer payments are structured, at the most any club using sales to fund part of their transfer budget in most cases would just have to sell during the same window. Unless they were low on actual cash, which I can't see being the issue at United.
The fact that anyone is even thinking about a winger is ridiculous. We have one good consistent reliable fullback as things stand then purely cover, not specialised quality. I've been absolutely baffled all summer why we haven't signed good cover/competition for Valencia and also a starting left back with real quality.
On the same page as ya.
Compare the lack of depth/lack of quality at LB and RB compared to the options at LW.
Martial/Rashford/Lingard/Young (LW)
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Shaw/Darmian (LB) + Valencia with no real backup (RB)
Sounds like our finances are not as good as we like to think if this is true. Either that or the Glazers have closed the chequebook.
In the current market, our finances don't mean a fat lot. PSG spent 40% of our yearly revenue and 10% of the entire worth of Manchester United on Neymar. We've spent 7% of the entire value of the club so far this transfer window ourselves.
We have about 5 centre backs including Rojo. Then not forgetting Tuanzbe. One of them needs to be sold.
We have quite a few utility players. Someone like Young needs to be moved on.
But yeah after about our wage structure being good. We got rid of Schneiderlin, Depay and Schweinsteiger in Jan. Ibra and Rooney in the summer. Obviously even without Ibra that's a significant amount of wages shifted.
Not the case at all. United's commercial income is by far the highest in the EPL - £90M more than the next closest team.
Not to mention, United received £144M in EPL TV ratings alone which was under £10M less than what champions Chelsea earned (https://m.sportskeeda.com/football/how-much-premier-league-club-earn-prize-money-epl-2016-17). Compare that to the commercial income and United are still by far the biggest earners.
...and I doubt it's the latter which you say also. More so there's no player available to fit our needs atm. Aurier is but his trial has caused uncertainty if he can be attained before the transfer window closes in 15 days / be cleared of charges. No real wingers available nor a LB so leaves it to Aurier really. And there's no point of spending money just to show we have money to spend. Rather not be wasteful and acquire a player who won't be an improvement over current players. We're looking for upgrades in certain positions, not signings for the hell of it.
You're forgetting expenses, the wage bill last season was £265m and the club made a £3.8mil loss. I'm not saying we are in bad shape, but the idea we are some kind of financial machine that can do what it wants in this current market is false.
How can you know that? Neymar was available, we know that - he would have improved us. Sanchez is probably available for the right price, ditto. Probably also Mbappe and Dembele, for the right price. Just that it looks like we can't stretch to these players or at least not without offloading players first.
Only PSG had the deep pockets to trigger that ridiculous release clause.
Wenger has made it clear he'll prefer to keep his players and take the chance of them walking at years end. Won't sell them and especially to a direct rival in Mourinho + United which would launch use as clear cut league favourites.
Mbappe and Dembele have said they prefer Madrid or Barca so nothing we can do with that other than try our hardest to convince them otherwise.
...and yea true, we don't have deep pockets like PSG. Another reason why we're not linked directly with Mbappe/Dembele atm since we already used our big money signing on Lukaku. Will be hard to be linked with them next summer as well as we'll probably use that windows big money signing on Griezmann which isn't a bad thing at all. He's better than the other 2 and the type of player United need to launch back as a world class competitors. Top10 player, I'll take him 11 times out of 10 lol.
It's disappointing if true, as we dearly need a proper LB/LWB and don't have a quality starting XI / proper winger on the roster. We continue to play central players out wide, out of position, and I find that frustrating at such a huge club like United.
I honestly don't know what Jose is doing with the wide positions as we were clearly only really in for Perisic with no other options being explored, when we don't have a natural wide player for either RW/LW.
I honestly don't know what Jose is doing with the wide positions as we were clearly only really in for Perisic with no other options being explored, when we don't have a natural wide player for either RW/LW.
Top players seldom move in January and he'll be (CL) cup tied.
Making a move for him in January makes absoultely no sense.
And IMO, AG won't ever play for MUFC. Add him to Gaitan, Garay, Schneijder, Neymar, Bale, Nainggolan, etc.
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