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2-1 Thiem and wrapped it up for the day. In general there are a lot of tight matches so far, I'm loving it!
That third set was excellent. Bit annoying they don't play until later in Paris
 
Shapovalov out to Marterer, never heard of the guy before, but he's only 22, so a disappointing loss for Shapovalov.
 
Shapovalov out to Marterer, never heard of the guy before, but he's only 22, so a disappointing loss for Shapovalov.
I remember first seeing the name Federer and thinking, pfft, who is this Swiss discount Ferrero.

I don't know why, but I did.

Do with that what you will.
 
Dutch pundits are so cringy. "Bertens is one of the many favourites for the title this year".

No, she really isn't. Sure, she's been playing some good tennis and getting some results against (former) top players like Sharapova, but there is no way she will win a slam.

I hope she does ofcourse, but she won't.
 
Dutch pundits are so cringy. "Bertens is one of the many favourites for the title this year".

No, she really isn't. Sure, she's been playing some good tennis and getting some results against (former) top players like Sharapova, but there is no way she will win a slam.

I hope she does ofcourse, but she won't.
Can you really rule anyone out on the women's side?
 
Can you really rule anyone out on the women's side?
There are quite some outsiders, but I think Bertens will comfortably lose to Kerber.

It’s one of the more exciting draws on the women’s side though. No invincible Serena, though I wouldnt be that surprised if she wins it anyway.
 
Scratch my Serena winning it comment she doesnt look fit enough.

I will use the rest of my will power to not comment on that suit.
 
Just had a look at the scores.

Dzumuhr 2-1 up against Zverev and Verdasco 2-0 up against Dimitrov.
 
Verdasco bossing it. Annoyed Eurosport’s are showing this when Zverev game sounds better.

I can understand ITV showing Djokovic. But come on Verdasco has pretty much won this.
 
Zverev down a break. Managed to get a stream from bet365. He played a woeful game there.
 
A break up in the 5th, so seems like Zverev will get his first slam win against at top 50 player, but being taken this far is concerning against Dzumuhr.

From what I read, Dzumuhr served for the match but blew it and got broken to love then lost the tiebreak.
 
Zverev is just so bad. Can't think of a worse 2nd seed at Slams in ages.

Dzumhur has absolutely bottled this match away though. Twice had the break in Set 4 but just totally imploded. Even those 2 horror misses at the net at 5-4 in the 5th set . Zverev, yet again, was there for the taking.
 
Meanwhile, Djokovic throwing away his own set. He's still way too up and down. Lots of genuine moments of quality and lots of erm wth was that?
 
Djoko was 4-1 up and lost the 2nd set. He had the break in the third and now has been broken twice. The mens tennis situation is so poor right now
 
players like Bautista and Simon are probably the worst you can get in earlier rounds. Raonic and Berdych are better players than those two for example, but they aren't nearly as frustrating to play against.
 
That's it, he's had one of the nicest possible paths to the QFs and has made tough work

He's also played more tennis than anyone coming into RG. Just finished 4 clay tournaments where he made the finals (winning 2) and just before that he made the finals in Miami. A bit of exhaustion is inevitable.
 
He's also played more tennis than anyone coming into RG. Just finished 4 clay tournaments where he made the finals (winning 2) and just before that he made the finals in Miami. A bit of exhaustion is inevitable.
Exhaustion? How's that even an excuse? If anything, the one thing he's done well is to prove he DOES have the stamina to come back in these 5 setters. Exhaustion has nothing to do with just how poorly he's playing.
 
Djoko wins the 3rd set. Poor from RBA who served for the set and then, as Dzhumhur, just couldn't serve it out.
 
Exhaustion? How's that even an excuse? If anything, the one thing he's done well is to prove he DOES have the stamina to come back in these 5 setters. Exhaustion has nothing to do with just how poorly he's playing.

If you follow Tennis you'd know he isn't playing poorly. He's coming into this tournament playing extremely well, having won 2 of his past 3 tournaments and the one he lost was 3 setter to Nadal.
 
If you follow Tennis you'd know he isn't playing poorly. He's coming into this tournament playing extremely well, having won 2 of his past 3 tournaments and the one he lost was 3 setter to Nadal.
No one has ever denied what he does at Masters. He's probably the best after Rafa and Fed there right now but as always, he's been poor at a Slam. You can't blame how poorly he played his last two games on exhaustion at all. The only thing impressive about him was that he had the energy and stamina to last those 5 sets. His level of tennis in Paris has been poor. The only reason he didn't have yet another first week loss today is that Dzhumhur just completely and utterly froze.
 
No one has ever denied what he does at Masters. He's probably the best after Rafa and Fed there right now but as always, he's been poor at a Slam. You can't blame how poorly he played his last two games on exhaustion at all. The only thing impressive about him was that he had the energy and stamina to last those 5 sets. His level of tennis in Paris has been poor. The only reason he didn't have yet another first week loss today is that Dzhumhur just completely and utterly froze.

I don't know if any top 10 player has played more tennis than him this year. Federer plays in tournaments when he feels like it. Nadal is constantly injured and the rest of the usual suspects have been out of the loop for various reasons. He's is playing better than anyone spare Nadal at the moment, and is ready for a breakthrough to the next level this year imo.
 
He's also played more tennis than anyone coming into RG. Just finished 4 clay tournaments where he made the finals (winning 2) and just before that he made the finals in Miami. A bit of exhaustion is inevitable.
A lot of players have played 4 tournaments (Thiem played 5 I believe). If he is tired, which I'm not convinced by he needs to schedule better.

He's clearly got bags of ability and I'd still back him to make the QFs at a minimum, but as a top talent, some of his slams results and performances don't make sense.

I said before tournament I think he'll go deep in one slam this year but not win it. Think this may be the tournament as two 5 setters in the early rounds may take its toll, a bit like Murray in 2016.
 
I think some of the younger generation - Thiem being the prime example, but Zverev has fallen foul at times - need to manage their schedules a bit better. Because the problem is, when you play as well as Zverev has of late, you run up a lot of miles on the clock in the space of weeks.
 
A lot of players have played 4 tournaments (Thiem played 5 I believe). If he is tired, which I'm not convinced by he needs to schedule better.

He's clearly got bags of ability and I'd still back him to make the QFs at a minimum, but as a top talent, some of his slams results and performances don't make sense.

I said before tournament I think he'll go deep in one slam this year but not win it. Think this may be the tournament as two 5 setters in the early rounds may take its toll, a bit like Murray in 2016.

My point was Zverev actually made the finals in each of his past 5 or 6 tournaments (he may have made the semis in one of them). That's a hell of a lot of consecutive tournaments leading up to the slams. Even though he's playing very well coming in, the conditions are ripe for some sort of let down at some point.
 
I think some of the younger generation - Thiem being the prime example, but Zverev has fallen foul at times - need to manage their schedules a bit better. Because the problem is, when you play as well as Zverev has of late, you run up a lot of miles on the clock in the space of weeks.
I think Thiem is most guilty of it but to be fair him, he's made the semi finals at Roland Garros 2 years in a row (though he suffered a beat down to the eventual winner on both occasions).
 
My point was Zverev actually made the finals in each of his past 5 or 6 tournaments (he may have made the semis in one of them). That's a hell of a lot of consecutive tournaments leading up to the slams. Even though he's playing very well coming in, the conditions are ripe for some sort of let down at some point.

But I just don't see how exhuastion or too much tennis is what's playing a part. He's just playing close to the sort of tennis he was playing even in Rome. Being this poor against the sort of players he's been up against is inexplicable. And Rafa and Thiem (played 4 matches in 3 days just days before the RG) have been deep in tournaments as well.

I think some of the younger generation - Thiem being the prime example, but Zverev has fallen foul at times - need to manage their schedules a bit better. Because the problem is, when you play as well as Zverev has of late, you run up a lot of miles on the clock in the space of weeks.

Zverev had the same schedule as Rafa and the former is 10 years his senior. Infact almost all players this season have played all 4 (including Barca) in the buildup.

I don't know if any top 10 player has played more tennis than him this year. Federer plays in tournaments when he feels like it. Nadal is constantly injured and the rest of the usual suspects have been out of the loop for various reasons. He's is playing better than anyone spare Nadal at the moment, and is ready for a breakthrough to the next level this year imo.

Whether the breakthrough comes or not is something we'll find out but he's just been very poor this tournament for a person who's been the second best player on this surface. Though tbh, all off that bottom half has been poor or strictly okay. Djoko, Zverev, Thiem and Dimi have all struggled,exited or almost exited.
 
But I just don't see how exhuastion or too much tennis is what's playing a part. He's just playing close to the sort of tennis he was playing even in Rome. Being this poor against the sort of players he's been up against is inexplicable. And Rafa and Thiem (played 4 matches in 3 days just days before the RG) have been deep in tournaments as well.



Zverev had the same schedule as Rafa and the former is 10 years his senior. Infact almost all players this season have played all 4 (including Barca) in the buildup.



Whether the breakthrough comes or not is something we'll find out but he's just been very poor this tournament for a person who's been the second best player on this surface. Though tbh, all off that bottom half has been poor or strictly okay. Djoko, Zverev, Thiem and Dimi have all struggled,exited or almost exited.

Nadal has been injured for much of the year so he is obviously going to be fresher. He didn't play any Tennis between Jan to April.
 
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Nadal has been injured for much of the year so he is obviously going to be fresher. He didn't play any Tennis between Jan to April.
He had the same schedule last year, where he played a full schedule for the year up until that point.

Zverev also didn't make the second week of Australia and lost first round in Indian Wells, so I don't even think he's overloaded with tournaments this year.
 
Nadal has been injured for much of the year so he is obviously going to be fresher. He didn't play any Tennis between Jan to April.
What about last year then when he made the Aussie final and played a super hectic clay schedule? Zverev hasn't really played any more clay court tournaments than anyone else and going out early in Jan and Feb means he should be fresh too. Exhaustion just can't be used as an excuse. Thiem was playing tough matches till Saturday and he's been more convincing.
 
Thiem losing a set again against Berrettini. He has been really poor lately except for one outstanding win against Rafa. Zverev and him won't do much here if they don't step it up, expect both to lose against Nishikori atm. Rafa didn't look like all that in the first round either, but it seems like it willl be another walk in the park to the RG title for him. After Rafa I think Nole looks the most solid, stilö not anywhere close to his best, but the performances in Rome and here give me hope that he might be up there on the faster surfaces.
 
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