Around the same time Pogba did. Fair to say injury management was another thing Ole was shite at.
Ten Hag press conference - Brentford away
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Around the same time Pogba did. Fair to say injury management was another thing Ole was shite at.
Not sure if you've been living under a rock, but we don't quite operate like most clubs. We've had some horrendous windows, even when it is obvious we need recruitments.
Good post!
Its actually refreshing seeing a Man Utd manager not pandering to the journos and media. I love it!
With all the attention on the club and fragile players why would you give the press anything?!
Some of you lot just need to think a little
Some of you lot just need to think a little
You're under new management now. Why not cut them some slack? Or, if you're not going to cut them slack, at least don't mercilessly pile the failings of the last 10 years onto them.
It's your choice as fans really, you can face the new season with curiosity and observe the work Ten Hag and the team will be doing with support and openness, or you can, from the get go, turn the season into a nightmare for everyone involved by churning every single thing that happens into an obsessive swirl of negativity.
At some point Man United fans need to be ready to actually like their club and/or their team.
If I could frame this I would. Wholeheartedly agree
It sad that this needs to be said but for some reason, far too many of our fans are in the mindset that if its not perfect they want it to be fecking awful. Like it hasn't been awful for a long time and little has changed. We have finally started making changes to turn our fortunes around and people have given it all of about 2 months before turning on the club again. fecking embarrassing.
It’s good that an opposition fan has phrased that so eloquently as if another United fan did it would be a case of being ‘too positive and burying heads in sand’
I should add, to be fair, that I can understand how it's not an easy choice to make, seeing how the media, not to mention the mechanics and logic of social media, are relentlessly driving the negative narratives, because it's easy to do and generates attention and revenue.
Even people like Gary Neville, who you'd assume should know better, are falling into the trap basing their analyses and comments on media speculation and tabloid narratives.
Daft post.
Wow - a sane post and then I saw it came from you. Yikes - back to blaming the club , management, SAF, Ole, Jose , Gill , ETH, OT pitch etc.
His laugh reminds me of this man
Yeah that wasn't good. One game though. If it goes on like this, Ten Hag will be gone anyway, as is the fate of football management, no ifs or buts. But it won't.
We weren't getting played off the pitch. FFS. They took their chances, we didn't. That was the difference.
Yeah, but that surely can't have been shocking to you?
I mean - I'm super skeptical about the whole setup at United. I'm far from certain that we're finally on the right track.
But being played off the park by Brighton in ETH's FIRST competitive match in charge is...well, it's par for the course. If you expected him to be some sort of magician, then I'm sorry - but he isn't that.
Even if he is every bit as good as the most optimistic among us seem to think, it will obviously take some time before he can get a tune out of the players that are currently available to him.
Why bother responding to @hobbers ?
If that’s all he took from what @Hansi Fick posted it’s pointless seeking a discussion as he’s likely wumming.
If that’s all he took from what @Hansi Fick posted it’s pointless seeking a discussion as he’s likely wumming.
*Moyes. Jagielka
You've took this discussion in a new direction - I originally said that ETH has potentially put the onus on them to make signings. There have been stories this week coming from somewhere, almost blaming him for the transfers. There's been numerous stories saying he's not happy with progress. There's stories (and common sense) that we're chasing targets outlined by ETH and not the guy that should be doing that. Look where that has got us over the last 10 years. And then there is the shit show it certainly looks on the face of it. There is no denying that, if this window is going to plan then I would be astonished.
And it's not just about Murtough or Arnold (both have been involved a lot longer than this season too, by the way), but also the Glazers etc. They're the one constant throughout this.
I was willing to believe things had changed at the beginning of the window, but now I just see panic stations. After the last 10 years, the club will have to earn my trust when it comes to these matters.
Good solid presser, no issues. They aren’t beating him up at the moment, which is how it should be, and he can block and move Simon Stone’s dilly dally all day long.
@Hansi Fick, totally agree!
The forum is terrible at the moment, with the same posters spreading negativity in every thread.
The forum is terrible at the moment, with the same posters spreading negativity in every thread.
Absolutely, agree wholeheartedly.
You know exactly which one of these options the caf will choose
You should have seen this place when Jose was the Manager.
Can we replace the home screen with this.
No he's here to actually give answers to the fans watching this press conference. This felt like a waste of time to watch. Same opinion on his interviews post Brighton loss.
And anyway, he's saying he's very happy with the transfers and on board with the transfer targets, that means no one here should really moan when we criticize him for shit transfer targets like Rabiot and Arnautovic.
No he's not. He's there to manage a football club. His press conferences he gives out whatever information he wants to create whatever narrative he wants. It has nothing to do with the fans.
People who think PCs are for entertainment will be bored to death.
Good one by EtH, he doesn't need to put everything in press. Gives enough information and it's staight forward answers.
Good one by EtH, he doesn't need to put everything in press. Gives enough information and it's staight forward answers.
"You're just lowering expectations."
That's the toxic 'top red' line that gets churned out around here all the time.
He's not though.
He can literally say whatever he wants, I couldn’t care less. Only thing that matters is what we see on the pitch.
Sigh.
You are confusing press conferences with fan forums.
I think he would be in his right to criticize fans who call Rabiot and Arnautovic shot transfers, but I doubt he will.
Hes more press resistant than the playersHe isn’t giving them anything
He has the right to defend his targets and fans have the right to call him out for thinking these players are actually good for a club like Man United. He can't really complain later on that the board forced on these transfers with such kind of quotes, he made it clear : he really thinks these players are good enough transfer targets for us, so instead of fans saying " the board is setting him up to fail ", they need to re-consider if he should be blamed as much as Murtough.
Yeah but he won't 'win' pressers like Ralf.
Unfounded arrogance
I love me some OGS slating but both those players have been massively injury prone since they joined the club.
Ralf was undefeated in pressers
Neither of them were injury prone prior to Solskjaer joining.
Pogba had missed 28 games to injury in his entire career prior to Solskjaer (circa 7 years). 16 of them in the 2.5 years under Mourinho.
Since Solskjaer joined he missed 73 games in just 3.5 years.
Martial also only missed 7 games in 3.5 years under LVG/Jose Mourinho to injury. Since Solskjaer joined that number is 49.