Tariq Lamptey

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I'm not surprised we're interested - before he got injured last season, he was at times absolutely dominant offensively. It goes way beyond pace, he looks really gifted technically and creatively. A special talent. It's hard not to find the prospect tempting. Whether he can be a bread-and-butter all-round RB with good defensive command can hardly be called well established, at the very least. Size and strength and not least durability are concerns, but his amazing speed should help him.
 
The player he reminds me of the most is Adama Traore when he was playing at RB.

Ps ' I've heard rumours of Traore being targeted to play as Conte's RB/RWB aswell.
 
Smores said:
I'd use the money elsewhere whilst we see if Laird has what it takes.

We already have 3 RBs on our books so who are we selling? Dalot is probably in better form so it would be odd to push him out and keep AWB.
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Surely the point is that we don't have any RBs who have delivered a reasonable basis for assuming they can feature regularly in a team that challenges for the PL. Waiting another year to see if a fourth one (Laird) can do that immediately, which at this stage seems hugely optimistic, may not be the best approach.

Lamptey would at least provide us with a highly potent offensive weapon on the right back position, which none of the others are by any stretch of imagination. Also, he would remove the key bottleneck for playing three at the back (the lack of an adequate RWB), should we want to do that.
 
Bebestation said:
The player he reminds me of the most is Adama Traore when he was playing at RB.

Ps ' I've heard rumours of Traore being targeted to play as Conte's RB/RWB aswell.
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How do you figure that? Firstly he is Traore's exact opposite in what is one of AT's chief characteristics as a player, his physique. Secondly, Lamptey looks to me really good at reading offensive situations, getting into good positions and generally adding creativity, which is ATs most glaring shortcoming.

In fact, pretty much the only things they have in common is that they're both very fast and right-sided.
 
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Called this happening eventually about 18 months ago. No progressive manager was putting up with AWB.
 
Bebestation said:
The player he reminds me of the most is Adama Traore when he was playing at RB.

Ps ' I've heard rumours of Traore being targeted to play as Conte's RB/RWB aswell.
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What? How? Traore is shite technically and the only real thing he has going for him is he's built like a brick shit house, Lamptey is great on the ball but if he's outside in anything more than a mild breeze he'd probably get blown away.
 
Santos J said:
What? How? Traore is shite technically and the only real thing he has going for him is he's built like a brick shit house, Lamptey is great on the ball but if he's outside in anything more than a mild breeze he'd probably get blown away.
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Much as I agree with your general objection, Traore is hardly shite technically. On the contrary, I think he's very good technically. He wouldn't be able to dribble the way he does or get away from opponents in cramped areas if he wasn't. He just doesn't read the play well or make good decisions.
 
Smores said:
I'd use the money elsewhere whilst we see if Laird has what it takes.

We already have 3 RBs on our books so who are we selling? Dalot is probably in better form so it would be odd to push him out and keep AWB.
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I don't think it's at all impossible that we see both Dalot and AWB leave over the next few years as neither are really good enough. At 20 years old Laird still has plenty of time to get into the side, he's fine getting regular gametime on loan for now.
 
justsomebloke said:
Much as I agree with your general objection, Traore is hardly shite technically. On the contrary, I think he's very good technically. He wouldn't be able to dribble the way he does or get away from opponents in cramped areas if he wasn't. He just doesn't read the play well or make good decisions.
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Maybe not in a dribbling sense I suppose but his passing, crossing & finishing is largely wank.
 
justsomebloke said:
Surely the point is that we don't have any RBs who have delivered a reasonable basis for assuming they can feature regularly in a team that challenges for the PL. Waiting another year to see if a fourth one (Laird) can do that immediately, which at this stage seems hugely optimistic, may not be the best approach.

Lamptey would at least provide us with a highly potent offensive weapon on the right back position, which none of the others are by any stretch of imagination. Also, he would remove the key bottleneck for playing three at the back (the lack of an adequate RWB), should we want to do that.
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I don't necessarily disagree with any of that I just think our focus should be on positions where we don't have anyone coming through first. Youth products save a lot of money and allow you to invest more heavily elsewhere.

Sir Alex nearly always made sure their were gaps for youth to step into. If you don't you end up holding back talent and wasting money.
 
dinostar77 said:
Definitely a wing back rather than a RB. His lack of height would be a problem in a back four. Against teams that play a more direct approach, you'd want your tallest forward up against lamptey as he'd pretty much win every header and flick on.

Would be kinda ironic than LVG got rid of Raphael for being too short for a RB and then we go back to recruitng a short RB.
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Never understood the need for a tall RB. If anything, being tall usually means you are less agile. Typically, the best fullbacks are not very tall - Evra, Cole, Alves, Lahm etc.(TAA is not good defensively)
 
Rossa said:
Never understood the need for a tall RB. If anything, being tall usually means you are less agile. Typically, the best fullbacks are not very tall - Evra, Cole, Alves, Lahm etc.(TAA is not good defensively)
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Yeah but he's quite a bit shorter than all of them even, not even 5ft 4 whilst some of those like Alves are over 5ft 6.

He's pretty much the smallest player in the entire Premier League, I think it would be concerning about how well he can deal with crosses to the back post if he's trying to mark someone half a foot taller.
 
I got excited when I saw this thread trending but realize it's nothing to do with a credible transfer :(
 
Smores said:
I don't necessarily disagree with any of that I just think our focus should be on positions where we don't have anyone coming through first. Youth products save a lot of money and allow you to invest more heavily elsewhere.

Sir Alex nearly always made sure their were gaps for youth to step into. If you don't you end up holding back talent and wasting money.
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Sure, that's ideal. But with Laird, the issue is if he's going to make the squad next season, not if he's going to be the main man on RB.
 
UTD_Since_1978 said:
That website your link goes to looks quite good, although I'm not sure how they can put Sancho top of the in form players.

I never knew that Lamptey is a former Chelsea youth player, they really shouldn't have let him go.
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I wouldn't put much weight on the player ratings, but it's a really useful site for certain pieces of information. For instance, they also show which formations teams have used in different games.
 
He was a bundle of pressing and energy when he came on yesterday. So much so that we had to double up on him despite Brighton being down to 10. Ralf namechecked him in the post match interview as well.

Fitness issues notwithstanding, he’s an absolute gem and hopefully is on our list of targets.
 
UTD_Since_1978 said:
That website your link goes to looks quite good, although I'm not sure how they can put Sancho top of the in form players.

I never knew that Lamptey is a former Chelsea youth player, they really shouldn't have let him go.
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They've had an embarrassment of riches at the RB position the last few years. Livramento at Southampton is another former Chelsea product.
 
Nickelodeon said:
He was a bundle of pressing and energy when he came on yesterday. So much so that we had to double up on him despite Brighton being down to 10. Ralf namechecked him in the post match interview as well.

Fitness issues notwithstanding, he’s an absolute gem and hopefully is on our list of targets.
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He played in midfield, subbed on for the RCM of a midfield 3 for Gross and doesnt start for Brighton.

Yes absolutely he made an impact with his speed and dribbling, got I think McTominnay booked for a foul when he was getting away. But he's not going to play CM for us and we dont play a RM in a midfield 5 which is his position. Thats why he isnt starting for Brighton either, they're moving away from that formation.
 
Great player, but definitely a wing back in a 5 at the back system. I'll be surprised if a team that plays 3 at the back like Atalanta, Spurs, Inter or Atletico Madrid don't sign him this summer.
 
NoPace said:
Great player, but definitely a wing back in a 5 at the back system. I'll be surprised if a team that plays 3 at the back like Atalanta, Spurs, Inter or Atletico Madrid don't sign him this summer.
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Atletico does not really wing back system that much.

Brighton knows that selling him to PL is likely more profitable especially due to his HG status, so unlikely for Atlanta to be able to afford him. Spurs, and Chelsea in case Azpilicueta move this summer when his contract expire (James moved into RCB role) IMO are most likely the destinations if he moves any time soon.
 
ti vu said:
Atletico does not really wing back system that much.

Brighton knows that selling him to PL is likely more profitable especially due to his HG status, so unlikely for Atlanta to be able to afford him. Spurs, and Chelsea in case Azpilicueta move this summer when his contract expire (James moved into RCB role) IMO are most likely the destinations if he moves any time soon.
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Whoscored says over half their games are 3 at the back, but I don't think Simeone would go with someone as attacking as Lamptey. They're said to want Matty Cash, who is an orthodox right back with above average energy to overlap, but I don't think is anywhere near as big a threat as Lamptey as a wing back as he's not a great dribbler.
 
captaincantona said:
I can see lamprey being a target and bisakka being squeezed out
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I reckon we'll ask £30m at least for AWB because of the price we paid.

None of the top 6 teams will go for AWB, maybe an outside chance Spurs could but they'll offer a loan or much lower than what we paid for him! And he'll be priced out of a move to a lower team, + won't accept lower salary to join them.
Maybe West Ham could do us a favour.

Otherwise we're stuck with AWB and Maguire.
 
NoPace said:
Whoscored says over half their games are 3 at the back, but I don't think Simeone would go with someone as attacking as Lamptey. They're said to want Matty Cash, who is an orthodox right back with above average energy to overlap, but I don't think is anywhere near as big a threat as Lamptey as a wing back as he's not a great dribbler.
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He's not really. He's been a winger all his life until a couple of years ago
 
Cutch said:
He's not really. He's been a winger all his life until a couple of years ago
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That's true of lots of fullbacks. He's still not going to have bags of assists like Lamptey. Good at getting into the box on the ends of things, but he's not a great dribbler or fantastic crosser, and his best attacking attribute is his sheer energy and stamina creating overlaps. Think he'd be a bit lacking for a team as good as Atletico playing as a wingback.
 
NoPace said:
Whoscored says over half their games are 3 at the back, but I don't think Simeone would go with someone as attacking as Lamptey. They're said to want Matty Cash, who is an orthodox right back with above average energy to overlap, but I don't think is anywhere near as big a threat as Lamptey as a wing back as he's not a great dribbler.
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Cash isn't bad at dribbling I don't think. What he's really shite at is crossing. Like Dalot shit. Maybe Someone could work on that though.
 
TwoSheds said:
Cash isn't bad at dribbling I don't think. What he's really shite at is crossing. Like Dalot shit. Maybe Someone could work on that though.
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I think he's fine for a fullback, but not good enough at it for a wing-back, though the Italian teams seem to do alright with fairly orthodox right backs at wingback.
 
Better than Dalot is all i can say. But you get to be really good to beat Bissaka one on one defend ability. Bissaka is a beast with one on one ability.

I m scouting and following. Lamptey, Frimpong and Dumfries.

Hakimi train from Inter went to Paris. That train was one of the higest class of train you could get as RB.
 
AWB was flavour of the month not so long ago and Dalot a few seasons ago. AWB limited Dalot’s chances but the lad has proven that all the hype was correct fro when he signed. I like him. He goes forwards and has pace, a good pass and good defence. Lamptey is just the latest media hyped player linked with United. It will be someone else next month.
 
Offsideagain said:
AWB was flavour of the month not so long ago and Dalot a few seasons ago. AWB limited Dalot’s chances but the lad has proven that all the hype was correct fro when he signed. I like him. He goes forwards and has pace, a good pass and good defence. Lamptey is just the latest media hyped player linked with United. It will be someone else next month.
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Even when he was there has always been the issue with him not offering enough going forward
 
Between Dalot, Williams & Laird I think we're set for competition at RB, even if AWB is moved on. Exciting player to watch mind, sure he'll do well if he avoids injuries.
 
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