Tanguy Ndombele | Signed For Spurs

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beingshe7don said:
I'm a huge fan of Thiago but he's already 28.... and will still cost us 60m which does not make good business sense.
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My exact thoughts. I love Thiago but I'm especially concerned about his injury-proness not yo mention his age.
 
beingshe7don said:
60m for a 28 year old is not worth it especially since his form is going to go downhill.... not to mention that he's injury prone.
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AltiUn said:
Given his injury record £60m presents a huge risk.
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True, injury concerns are fair enough. Don't think his style of play is one that's going to suffer through physical decline any time soon though.
 
I would rather that we sign Aouar. Much more technical,with better vision than Ndombele,they play as midfield 2 with Aouar being the one a bit further forward. He looks like he has better potential.
 
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He's in a similar bracket to Frenkie De Jong, if you closely observe his contribution to games (not highlights) he's everything we need in the midfield has drive, physicality, technique and vision.

I said that start of the season we should closely follow Neves, De Jong and Ndombele. Between them Neves has been the least impressive in my opinion.

Tanguy has been one of Lyons best players in much of their champions league fixtures, was outstanding against City, Barcelona (outplayed their entire midfield 2nd leg). The domestic fixture with PSG they couldn't get near him, when you contrast our midfield performance at home and Verratti running the show that's a big statement.

I have a bad feeling this is going to be another situation of us missing out on yet another promising midfielder, he ends up at a competitive club and its back to square one. Goretzka last year, Tolisso the year before that, this trend is getting tiresome.
 
I’m not sure this is the calming influence we need in midfield. He’s probably a good player but I feel we need a different profile of midfielder.
 
I’m not sure this is the calming influence we need in midfield. He’s probably a good player but I feel we need a different profile of midfielder.
 
Kostov said:
I’m not sure this is the calming influence we need in midfield. He’s probably a good player but I feel we need a different profile of midfielder.
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To replace Herrera? He would be a good replacement.
 
Kostov said:
I’m not sure this is the calming influence we need in midfield. He’s probably a good player but I feel we need a different profile of midfielder.
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With Herrera leaving, we are probably going to sign more than one.
 
Adisa said:
With Herrera leaving, we are probably going to sign more than one.
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I can see us giving Mctominay more playing time instead. McTominay was probably gonna go out on loan initially but that may have changed now.
 
luke511 said:
Wasn't he pushing for him to move to PSG a few months ago? Strange
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For context the press was/is linking Ndombélé with PSG and a little more than a month ago Aulas had an interview with a business paper and in that interview the journalist asked if he would be willing to sell players to PSG, he answered that he would have no problem and if they wanted Ndombélé it wouldn't be a problem. The question comes from the fact that in the last years, the press tried to create a feud between Aulas and Al Khelaifi with both of them playing along.

And a bidding war is never a bad thing for the seller.
 
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JPRouve said:
For context the press was/is linking Ndombélé with PSG and a little more than a month ago Aulas had an interview with a business paper and in that interview the journalist asked if he would be willing to sell players to PSG, he answered that he would have no problem and if they wanted Ndombélé it wouldn't be problem. The question comes from the fact that in the last years, the press tried to create a feud between Aulas and El Khelaifi with both of them playing along.

And a bidding war is never a bad thing for the seller.
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Ah fair, cheers!
 
Not that Ndombele is better than Pogba but I think we need to learn a thing or two from Liverpool and sell Pogba as they did with Coutinho and strengthen in other areas and Ndombele is that person who could operate in the Pogba position. In fact, getting Ndombele and Bruno for the price of Pogba would be a masterstroke by Ed if he could pull it off.
 
beingshe7don said:
Not that Ndombele is better than Pogba but I think we need to learn a thing or two from Liverpool and sell Pogba as they did with Coutinho and strengthen in other areas and Ndombele is that person who could operate in the Pogba position. In fact, getting Ndombele and Bruno for the price of Pogba would be a masterstroke by Ed if he could pull it off.
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We need rebuilding - Liverpool only needed a CB and a GK.

It's not really the same thing.
 
beingshe7don said:
Not that Ndombele is better than Pogba but I think we need to learn a thing or two from Liverpool and sell Pogba as they did with Coutinho and strengthen in other areas and Ndombele is that person who could operate in the Pogba position. In fact, getting Ndombele and Bruno for the price of Pogba would be a masterstroke by Ed if he could pull it off.
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So instead of selling a player where we are stacked and scoring a fecktonne of goals to strengthen our weak goalkeeper and and defence, you are advocating selling our best player, with no one to replace him but someone inferior, and spend whatever is left to strengthen our defence, midfield and attack?

Not sure how that is going to work, tbh. Are we going to get £300M for Pogba?
 
FootyGirl88 said:
We need rebuilding - Liverpool only needed a CB and a GK.

It's not really the same thing.
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He bought Van Dijk, Allison, Mane, Salah, Fabinho and Robertson, who are regular starters for them. That's quite a rebuild. If we brought in 6 players of that quality to this current side, that's all you'd need.
 
beingshe7don said:
Not that Ndombele is better than Pogba but I think we need to learn a thing or two from Liverpool and sell Pogba as they did with Coutinho and strengthen in other areas and Ndombele is that person who could operate in the Pogba position. In fact, getting Ndombele and Bruno for the price of Pogba would be a masterstroke by Ed if he could pull it off.
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Bang on the money here.

Including the sale of Coutinho, Liverpool raised just over £140m last season. The same season, for just under £150m (a net spend of £10m), they signed Salah, Robertson, Oxlade-Chamberlain and van Dijk.

You have 3 players in De Gea, Pogba and Lukaku that will probably fetch in around £300m in transfer fees.

You could give the whole team the transformation it needs with those funds. Massive caveat being that this does require the purchases to be right after you've sold some of your best players. Liverpool hit the jackpot with most of those signings from the Coutinho money. I'm not sure with the current recruitment process if United could do the same.
 
Seriously doubt we can compete this window with the clubs mentioned for Ndombele. I'd love to be wrong but no CL and the uncertainty with this team, can't see it. Think we will be looking at slightly different targets with EL.
 
When you see the teams after him, can't see him opting to play Europa.
 
FujiVice said:
He bought Van Dijk, Allison, Mane, Salah, Fabinho and Robertson, who are regular starters for them. That's quite a rebuild. If we brought in 6 players of that quality to this current side, that's all you'd need.
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What with Couthino money? I'm sure they were there at the same time.
 
I'd rather we just sign Tielemans and Rabiot, that's a total spend of 40,50m million and you are getting two quality midfielders.
 
Jibbs said:
I'd rather we just sign Tielemans and Rabiot, that's a total spend of 40,50m million and you are getting two quality midfielders.
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Don’t know too much about Rabiot but a big yes to Tielemans.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
We need rebuilding - Liverpool only needed a CB and a GK.

It's not really the same thing.
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Yes, we do need rebuilding. However, the point I was making that we need to sell some of our prized assets like what Liverpool did in order to rebuild a TEAM. Had they not sold Coutinho, they wouldn't have the funds to go ahead and invest in Allison, Fabinho, Keita and Shaqiri which bought them some much needed depth in the side.

Sassy Colin said:
So instead of selling a player where we are stacked and scoring a fecktonne of goals to strengthen our weak goalkeeper and and defence, you are advocating selling our best player, with no one to replace him but someone inferior, and spend whatever is left to strengthen our defence, midfield and attack?

Not sure how that is going to work, tbh. Are we going to get £300M for Pogba?
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First of all, I agree that Pogba is our best player but he's not indispensable. More often than not, he gets nullified by the opposition as we depend heavily on him to run the midfield as well as be the playmaker for our forwards. The state of our current team is such that we are heavily dependent on individual skills and talent to bail us out rather than a team as a whole. If we lose Pogba for a game, our winning percentage drops by what I'm assuming to be as 10% or so. And not to mention, Pogba does not want to be here. It's time we got rid of the toxicity and amputate the infected limb that is Raiola.
 
Coops73 said:
Don’t know too much about Rabiot but a big yes to Tielemans.
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Tielemans would be a great acquisition for 40m. Rabiot for free wouldn't be a bad option either. Either of the two would definitely improve our midfield.
 
beingshe7don said:
Yes, we do need rebuilding. However, the point I was making that we need to sell some of our prized assets like what Liverpool did in order to rebuild a TEAM. Had they not sold Coutinho, they wouldn't have the funds to go ahead and invest in Allison, Fabinho, Keita and Shaqiri which bought them some much needed depth in the side.
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If we didn't need so many starting players it would be a good idea, but I feel we need too many players to try and replicate what they did.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
If we didn't need so many starting players it would be a good idea, but I feel we need too many players to try and replicate what they did.
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Pogba and Raiola have their heads turned by Real and Zidane and not to mention, United aren't playing in the Champions League next season. Pogba is looking for a reason to move. We shouldn't hold onto him when we could buy players who can put in consistent performances for us on weekly basis.
 
beingshe7don said:
Pogba and Raiola have their heads turned by Real and Zidane and not to mention, United aren't playing in the Champions League next season. Pogba is looking for a reason to move. We shouldn't hold onto him when we could buy players who can put in consistent performances for us on weekly basis.
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His assist and goal rate is astounding. He's not perfect but he's one of the very few top players we have.
 
beingshe7don said:
Yes, we do need rebuilding. However, the point I was making that we need to sell some of our prized assets like what Liverpool did in order to rebuild a TEAM. Had they not sold Coutinho, they wouldn't have the funds to go ahead and invest in Allison, Fabinho, Keita and Shaqiri which bought them some much needed depth in the side.



First of all, I agree that Pogba is our best player but he's not indispensable. More often than not, he gets nullified by the opposition as we depend heavily on him to run the midfield as well as be the playmaker for our forwards. The state of our current team is such that we are heavily dependent on individual skills and talent to bail us out rather than a team as a whole. If we lose Pogba for a game, our winning percentage drops by what I'm assuming to be as 10% or so. And not to mention, Pogba does not want to be here. It's time we got rid of the toxicity and amputate the infected limb that is Raiola.
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They could have signed those guys without selling Coutinho.
 
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