Sven died leaving debts of over £3.8m

Regarding taxes. Because general mentality is pay what the government says you need to pay is why we are where we are as a world. Not saying you don't need to pay but critical thinking and demanding results, traceability of where taxpayers money is spent, frequent independent revisions of how taxpayers money is wasted etc. Because we are a long way from where leaders cared about the nation and its residents currently.

This, the answer isn't to stop paying taxes, it's to demand they're spent better, fight for more accountability and set up independent overseers etc.
 
Regarding taxes. Because general mentality is pay what the government says you need to pay is why we are where we are as a world. Not saying you don't need to pay but critical thinking and demanding results, traceability of where taxpayers money is spent, frequent independent revisions of how taxpayers money is wasted etc. Because we are a long way from where leaders cared about the nation and its residents currently.
That’s a more complex issue and comes down to the way information is made available and presented to citizens, and how this can influence elections etc. I think that’s a separate issue from whether or not to pay tax.
 
This, the answer isn't to stop paying taxes, it's to demand they're spent better, fight for more accountability and set up independent overseers etc.
To some extent, yes; but to some extent, governments are also wasteful exactly because everything is political (those in charge don't want any embarrassments under their watch) and the public will criticize anything. So a lot of time and money is waste on process out of basically being scared of these things.

Also, the waste is generally not in things that accountability and oversight committees care about, but rather about inflated bureaucracies, overly burdensome processes, and unnecessary layers of management.

So I'd say that adding even more accountability and oversight mechanisms might actually have the opposite effect of what you're intending. It would probably have more effect to do more about continuous improvement. For example, mandate every government organization to have a Lean team, and let them sit with the Audit team with a strong mandate and significant authority. That's where the gains are made (While in fact such teams often get axed first when spending cuts are needed, cause they don't produce and seem like luxuries.)
 
Having no tax would be interesting. Do I choose the gofundme for the new school or the new road? I think society would still come together and keep us functioning over time.
How long would you think it would be before someone invaded the country?

No taxes means no military, I'm sure Putin would fancy it, perhaps the Germans, French or the Scandinavians might want to follow up on their forefathers and I'm sure Trump would be all for it, saves him buying Greenland and Canada!
 
To some extent, yes; but to some extent, governments are also wasteful exactly because everything is political (those in charge don't want any embarrassments under their watch) and the public will criticize anything. So a lot of time and money is waste on process out of basically being scared of these things.

Also, the waste is generally not in things that accountability and oversight committees care about, but rather about inflated bureaucracies, overly burdensome processes, and unnecessary layers of management.

So I'd say that adding even more accountability and oversight mechanisms might actually have the opposite effect of what you're intending. It would probably have more effect to do more about continuous improvement. For example, mandate every government organization to have a Lean team, and let them sit with the Audit team with a strong mandate and significant authority. That's where the gains are made (While in fact such teams often get axed first when spending cuts are needed, cause they don't produce and seem like luxuries.)

Which are also the fruit of people expecting more control over any spending and traceability, in a way it's amuzing because what people want increases bureaucracy, lengthen decision making processes and also causes the death of already started projects.
 
Having no tax would be interesting. Do I choose the gofundme for the new school or the new road? I think society would still come together and keep us functioning over time.

Yea society would come together, I imagine it would be like a centralised gofundme pot, used to cover the costs of the needs of society.

We would likely need to appoint certain people to be in control of how the money was spent. Maybe they could meet regularly in some kind of big building to debate things.

Then I guess you’d need to make sure that people weren’t taking advantage of the system, so maybe the people we have entrusted with controlling the spending could set some standards for the amount everybody needs to pay into the gofundme to make sure it provides what it needs.

That could work. In theory.
 
Yea society would come together, I imagine it would be like a centralised gofundme pot, used to cover the costs of the needs of society.

We would likely need to appoint certain people to be in control of how the money was spent. Maybe they could meet regularly in some kind of big building to debate things.

Then I guess you’d need to make sure that people weren’t taking advantage of the system, so maybe the people we have entrusted with controlling the spending could set some standards for the amount everybody needs to pay into the gofundme to make sure it provides what it needs.

That could work. In theory.
Very subtle. :lol:
 
Yea society would come together, I imagine it would be like a centralised gofundme pot, used to cover the costs of the needs of society.

We would likely need to appoint certain people to be in control of how the money was spent. Maybe they could meet regularly in some kind of big building to debate things.

Then I guess you’d need to make sure that people weren’t taking advantage of the system, so maybe the people we have entrusted with controlling the spending could set some standards for the amount everybody needs to pay into the gofundme to make sure it provides what it needs.

That could work. In theory.
you fecking idiot. that sounds like a government.
 
Yea society would come together, I imagine it would be like a centralised gofundme pot, used to cover the costs of the needs of society.

We would likely need to appoint certain people to be in control of how the money was spent. Maybe they could meet regularly in some kind of big building to debate things.

Then I guess you’d need to make sure that people weren’t taking advantage of the system, so maybe the people we have entrusted with controlling the spending could set some standards for the amount everybody needs to pay into the gofundme to make sure it provides what it needs.

That could work. In theory.
So crazy it might just work
 
Yea society would come together, I imagine it would be like a centralised gofundme pot, used to cover the costs of the needs of society.

We would likely need to appoint certain people to be in control of how the money was spent. Maybe they could meet regularly in some kind of big building to debate things.

Then I guess you’d need to make sure that people weren’t taking advantage of the system, so maybe the people we have entrusted with controlling the spending could set some standards for the amount everybody needs to pay into the gofundme to make sure it provides what it needs.

That could work. In theory.
Radical.
 
Good luck to HM Revenue collecting taxes from a dead person in Sweden.

Regarding taxes. Because general mentality is pay what the government says you need to pay is why we are where we are as a world. Not saying you don't need to pay but critical thinking and demanding results, traceability of where taxpayers money is spent, frequent independent revisions of how taxpayers money is wasted etc. Because we are a long way from where leaders cared about the nation and its residents currently.
Agree.

The problem is, the popular opinion of "government is just wasteful" is incorrect. In reality whatever government "is wasteful" with doesn't just evaporate in thin air. Most of it is not even wasted on lazy, too many government bureaucrats. I mean that is there, but it is not where most money is wasted. In many countries, majority of the budget/tax revenue disappears with government contractors. Many of these super rich people around you, who you wonder how they made billions - government contractors. Including the current #1 richest guy in the world, his businesses were sustained and boosted by government subsidies or they would not even take off

The problem is, reversing this trend then becomes much harder because you are not just fighting government bureaucracy, you are also fighting super rich benefiting from those

Case in point - remember how first thought on Ratcliffe's mind, to build a new stadium, was to finance it with tax money...
 
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He'll change his tune after spending 5 weeks in A&E after he breaks his leg trying to emulate Amad or Kobbie, 'cos that's what it would be like
I work in the NHS. Those 5 weeks will probably be just waiting to be seen.
 
There was a will made 2023 which stated his wish was to split 90% of his assets to his 45yr old son and 37yr old daughter. The remainder being divided amongst his 95yr old father, his brother and his girlfriend. Apparently he had been paying off his debt to HMRC and was hoping there would be a pay out to his heirs when the time came. Unfortunately according to the probate inventary it showed an estimated negative balance of 3,7 mil.