Supposedly Kim Jong Un @ Notts County
Sven died leaving debts of over £3.8m
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Supposedly Kim Jong Un @ Notts County
They will then simultaneously be moaning about NHS treatment, potholes and numerous other things and not linking the two.
If everyone thought this way and refused to pay taxes we'd all be living in filth, riddled with desease, and the average life expectancy would drop back down to 30. That's if you weren't murdered first due to lawlessness
Tax dodgers are selfish, greedy cnuts
Of course. That doesn’t mean my taxes are used well does it? To think so is pure gullibility
I happen to work in healthcare and can confidently tell you the NHS pisses more money up the wall than anyone. If you think that represents a good use of money then you’re simply wrong (financially, leaving morality and where you stand on public/private healthcare out of it)
Calm down mate - I don’t give a feck if you or the government care - I’ll resent them all the same and your silly outburst won’t change anything
Notice I said a moral obligation. I obviously have a legal obligation to pay taxes. These are two completely different things.
*Insert Liverpool joke here*
Being one of Europe’s foremost shaggers ain’t free.
Plenty of smart people have been swindled over the years by confidence trickster financial advisers, often using quite sophisticated scams. He was an intelligent, articulate guy, but that's being very different to being financially savvy or having any interest in that side of things.
I certainly have sympathy for those who got caught in the film schemes debacle. These were initially approved by the Revenue as tax efficient investments, but it later changed its mind, screwing over thousands of people retrospectively, hence the stacks of court cases that came out of it.
I met many people like that. They find all these little tricks not to pay taxes but will be the first to ask for bail outs, subsidies and would rely heavily on nhs
To be fair I haven't kept up with that scandal or how he was swindled.
I do feel for people who are swindled out of their money, but 10 million is too much not to get advice from trustworthy institutions at some point. If those told him everything is fine, then yeah, I guess that can happen to anyone.
No wonder he dreamt of managing liverpool, the guy was a closet scouser
What do you mean minimum amount? Your obligation is to pay the amount that you owe based on what you’ve earnt.
Jeez well said
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He mentioned money near the end of his life:
It doesn't mean all of them are well used. Inevitable all tax isn't, and even more inevitably an individual won't agree with all spending decisions taken for a whole country. What is rubbish is to think that that removes the moral obligation to pay tax.
He used electricity to type that nonsense, as if the infrastructure wasn't largely financed by tax money.
How do you feel about having to pay your share while others don't? Some posters seem quite giddy here he hasn't done so. Guess where any shortfall inevitably ends up?
If that wasn't the case I'd feel less good about paying my fair share of tax.
cnuty thing for Sven to do, everyone needs to pay their fair share to have a functioning society
I disagree. (not that rich people don't pay their tax, but on the statement it's why the world is fecked)
To assume a government would spend money better if they have more of it is crazy. Anything related to public spending is extremely inefficient to the pound/dollar etc.
That was the guy that duped an investment bank on a promise and conned a former British spy in the process, bought a football club and signed deals with the North Korean government. Then claimed he was worth trillions.
Thats a bit dumb if you ask me.
It’s quite interesting when the law doesn’t apply to everyone.
*Nottingham County
If he had a son he'd be very disappointed I reckon.
problem with the tax system is that it’s punitive. as a higher rate tax payer, why should i pay more to drive on the same roads that someone else pays less to? in no other walk of life would you agree to spend more than someone else for the same service. i’m happy to pay a higher rate of tax if it meant i could park on double yellow lines and use bus lanes. more would pay their fair share to get over thresholds if they felt they got something back for it, rather than trying any trick in the book to get under thresholds.
Nonsense. My obligation - anyone's obligation - is to pay only the minimum amount of tax possible. If you want to pay more, go ahead but I make sure to take every deduction I can.
I find them quite boring tbh. Coming up with nonsense philosophical arguments simply to justify very basic selfishness. I bet they’re big fans of Ayn Rand. Yawn.
It's dumb but I can definitely understand that mindset. It's incredibly tedious having to constantly think about money. He probably thought/hoped he wouldn't have to anymore once he'd made so much of it. Isn't that the whole point of being rich? Not having to think about money anymore?
Well yes. If you’re entitled to reduce your tax payment because you have deductible business expenses for example, that means that your obligation is to pay the tax left after deductions. That’s why that system is in place.
Which was the point of my initial post.
It's nonsensical to think that your moral obligation to pay taxes is proportionate to how well you think they're being spent. How well they're being spent is partly subjective. So two people could have different moral obligations to pay taxes, which doesn't make sense.
Also the NHS has gone to shit because of the way it's been run by the Tories for so long, and it's no secret that they have wanted to privitise the whole thing for ages. The solution is to run it better and increase funding. I don't see how this removes or reduces anyone's moral obligation to pay taxes.
Just a strange way of wording it. The opinion that you should pay the tax you owe is probably everyone’s, because that’s your legal obligation.
Not my words really. I was paraphrasing the man who does my books and taxes.
Until public spending reaches a point where we can confidently say that the money was not wasted on poor project planning and runaway cost, Im perfectly fine with that.
To me that's a bit perplexing for two reasons. On average are private spendings more efficient/better planned and do they rely on zero public spendings?
Having no tax would be interesting. Do I choose the gofundme for the new school or the new road? I think society would still come together and keep us functioning over time.
We as a society elected the people in that oversee how taxes are spent, so if you think they're being spent inefficiently, vote for something different. Your taxes still benefit society and people rely on them to survive, so withholding them illegally is just being selfish.
The private companies that are in theory the alternative to public spendings heavily rely on those public spendings. People seem to totally ignore that part for some reason.
Regarding taxes. Because general mentality is pay what the government says you need to pay is why we are where we are as a world. Not saying you don't need to pay but critical thinking and demanding results, traceability of where taxpayers money is spent, frequent independent revisions of how taxpayers money is wasted etc. Because we are a long way from where leaders cared about the nation and its residents currently.