What?! Don't be ridiculous! Practically every top signing any club makes stems from extenuating circumstances.
Do you think City, Chelsea, Bayern or Madrid could sign Rooney for example if everything was rosy at Old Trafford?
Summer transfer window
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
What?! Don't be ridiculous! Practically every top signing any club makes stems from extenuating circumstances.
Do you think City, Chelsea, Bayern or Madrid could sign Rooney for example if everything was rosy at Old Trafford?
I don't think using Rooney as an example is the best way to validate your Practically every top signing any club makes stems from extenuating circumstances
Of course in every transfer a club has to be willing to let a player go or that player wants to leave but would we have signed RVP had he not only had 12 months remaining on his contract? I doubt it. Will we ever sign a player like Mata from a club like Chelsea again should they not inexplicably find themselves out of the (in this case) Chelsea first team with zero future at the club almost guaranteed? Again I doubt it.
I dont believe whoever we sign in the summer will be coming from an Arsenal/Chelsea/Real Madrid/Barcelona type rival, it'll be from clubs a notch down from that and the type of signing that is more of our traditionally Manchester United transfer policy
Throwing money is not always the answer to be successful.
no, but at the moment United need investment. Too many of the players are coming to the end at the same time. If we dont invest, we'll be left behind, simple as that. If the Glazer's are careful we could follow the Liverpool pattern of inconsistency for a few years whilst City go on to dominate for the next 5 years
Quite.
My point is buying the best players is not enough. We need the very best coaches to get the very best out of these players. At the moment it seems even our best players are underperforming.
yeah I agree with that. I didnt care when Moyes brought his own staff in, because thats what new managers do. I just question are they doing too much physical training and not enough technical training? Why are the likes of RVP constantly injured when he played practically all of last season? Unlucky or being flogged to death like a racehorse?
And then you start looking at the performances even when everyone's fit.
No cohesion, seemingly no gameplan.
Training clearly isn't working. I think Moyes needs to quickly look at replacing the Everton lot with some modern coaches who have some fresh ideas and who can inject some life into the team. Not even Juan Mata could ffs.
Look what you are asking... They are his hand picked people. How about we just replace him you doosh.
now now, read Niall's new directive. Insult the post, not the member
that would help... But if he wants to keep his job he has to change something. At the moment we're fast approaching terminal velocity... if we're not already there.Benatia, Shaw, Vidal, Kroos, Reus. Cheers Dave.
Just get me a new manager in the summer that plays attractive football like Martinez or Simeone and who would at least be able to attract a few top young up and coming players from abroad as opposed to having to offer over inflated zillions at players in desperation to attract them
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Martinez? Christ.
He has a style of football that is infinitely more exciting than Moyes' style and he is doing much better than Moyes ever did in the team which was build by Moyes. Not an outlandish claim to make that Martinez might be a better manager than Moyes.
Though there are managers right there much better than both of them.
Considering the players he could attract from Spanish speaking countries such as Colombia, Argentina, Chile, Spain, Mexico and even Brazil which of course speaks Portuguese which is quite similar...then a guy like that can attract unheard of gems for a fraction of the price of the signings that Moyes plans to make. Most worrying thing about Moyes has been the style of football and his inability to grind out results even playing dour football...I really hope he can prove me wrong oneday...that's what I want...but just can't see it
Perhaps we should be more concerned about who will be putting in bids for our top players if (ok when) we dont get in the cl rather than assuming the worlds best are dreaming of playing at a half empty old trafford on thursday nights
Well done, you have grown in character and translated that in your behaviour on here. You used to be harsh and pompous, now you are soft and forgiving like a piece of chinese silk embroidery.
I applaud you.
This summer it looks like we're severely going to lose our higher moral ground of slating City and Chelsea for just lashing cash around aren't we!
As long as Cleverley, Buttner, Young, Valencia, Welbeck are shown the door, that would be a good summer window.
Would be difficult to replace them and be any worse.
Would be difficult to replace them and be any worse.
Except for the Welbeck bit of course. He's shown encouraging enough signs this season. As for the widemen, I'd have no problem seeing them all go, Nani, Young and Valencia.
It would be nice to have a break from this for a few months.
It is impossible to have a break from it when we witness what we witness every fecking Saturday.
'The second priority was to add a midfield player, and the capture of Fellaini has met that need'. Just read that lads and take two seconds to let it sink in.
So on the optimistic side Rooney signs a new deal and Vidic extends for a year. I think Evra will leave, Giggs and Rio will retire and at least one winger, if not two, will be sold.
That leaves us needing two CM's and a LB. I don't think we are going to half ass it with the CM's, if we were then we'd have went for Cabaye and Guarin the minute the January window opened, and I don't see us going back for Herrara if he wasn't deemed worth his buyout clause last summer.
That leaves us needing two CM's and a LB. I don't think we are going to half ass it with the CM's, if we were then we'd have went for Cabaye and Guarin the minute the January window opened, and I don't see us going back for Herrara if he wasn't deemed worth his buyout clause last summer.
I agree, unfortunately.
We need to add a manager to our shopping list by the looks of how things are going. If we get rid of Moyes, then we have to pay him a fee and then probably pay if we need a good manager.
I hope we have primed ourselves for the need to activate contingency plans once we are aware that we are going nowhere this summer.
I believe we can acquire some extremely attractive targets if we use our imagination.
But he's never really done that previously. If anything, Moyes has a much better track record for finding these gems. These things don't just happen overnight though.
Managerial upheaval in the summer, followed by another unsuccessful transfer window. That's far from ideal. We need Moyes to sort it out.
I mightnt insult you, but i can still ban you
We need a new manager first. In terms of transfers, the club will need to sound out some mercenaries. Money is going to be the biggest allure for us in attracting players in the summer. No Champions League and an uninspiring manager.
What are makes you think Moyes is going to sort it out? Do you think he can carry the club forward when we dont make the top four this year? I dont want any more panic buys at the end of the window.
We won't be relying on handouts though from megarich sugardaddies.We are spending our own money and not accepting gifts!
Not going to offer very long odds that in the summer we won't see:
"We're trying, but it's difficult with the World Cup, but we're hoping to bring one or two in but obviously now with only few days to go nothing's certain"
"We're trying, but it's difficult with the World Cup, but we're hoping to bring one or two in but obviously now with only few days to go nothing's certain"
I am not one of those who overhypes Welbeck but I think that there is no reason to sell him now. He's doing okay and can be a good squad player for us.
Completely agree about the others but my worry is that Moyes' deadwood in fact are Nani, Hernandez and Kagawa.
30m, 25m, 50m, 30m, 40m. Total = 175m.
Add 65m from this year and spend is 240m.
Manchester City who? Mancini who?
The Guardian rumour mill as us linked to William Carvalho who was watched by united scouts.
If Welbeck will be kept to use as a squad player then I would prefer we kept Hernandez. He offers more when coming off the bench to try nick a goal, Welbeck doesnt do this. His strength lies in his workrate but coming off the bench, Hernandez offers something different. I think we should keep our strikeforce as is to be honest. They all offer a different element and are a deadly team we can rotate dependent on the opponent and situation. Our forward line should be kept intact if possible.
I think that there is a place for both of them (with the injuries and other problems Rooney/RVP have) and considering that Welbeck is very versatile, we can keep both. If it is a choice between them two, I would prefer Hernandez too. But I think it is better to get rid of Valencia and Young.
Rooney, RVP, Hernandez, Kagawa, Mata, Welbeck, Nani and Januzaj for 4 positions is not overkill for me. A quality player and a quality backup for each of those positions.