Summer transfer window

A couple of games. Even when you watch his YouTube videos, it's hardly impressive which is weird as it's supposed to showcase his best bits.

A couple of games = him only having pace? It's like people making assumptions of Ibrahimovic based only on his games against English teams, it's completely absurd. Lucas is one of the best dribbling wingers at the top level right; his control, his ability to beat a man/ several men, and his delivery are all top quality. He has the 2nd most assists in this PSG side (10) behind Zlatan, and he has only started 14 times this, which is an incredible return. He's being kept out of the starting lineup because they have a £60 million player they are playing there instead in the form of Cavani. Not forgetting the fact that he is only 21, and you have the potential of a world class winger here. He would be in my top 3 realistic signings for right wing, and I was seriously gutted we did not get him when we had the chance.

EDIT: Also I don't know what sort of compilation videos you've been watching, but he has got some of the most impressive Youtube vids I have seen to date. His skillset is out of this world:



 
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Lucas is very likely surplus to requirements at PSG. Would be a brilliant option, and someone United tried to buy previously.

he's a young player on the fringes of their first team....

i think he should develop into a top top wide player - raw pace and fantastic potential

they don't need the money so what would be their motivation for selling?
 
he's a young player on the fringes of their first team....

i think he should develop into a top top wide player - raw pace and fantastic potential

they don't need the money so what would be their motivation for selling?

He would have to push for it if it was to ever happen, which seems unlikely.
 
I think more than anything else, this team needs a Roy Keane like leader on the pitch who would drive them forwards. I know such players are rare commodities and I don't know if there is any such player in the football world. But by god, if we get such a driving force into our team in the summer, our job will be done.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ish-to-season-to-placate-frustrated-fans.html

Manchester United manager David Moyes now needs strong finish to season to placate frustrated fans
Manager's job will again be under scrutiny if campaign of woe ends badly in last five games while owners must decide if Scot is man to invest £120m on new players
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Tough task: David Moyes’s tactics and public comments have regularly been used as a stick with which to beat the United manager Photo: EPA


By Mark Ogden, Northern Football Correspondent

David Moyes is entering the most decisive period of his reign as Manchester United manager with five games over the next month to banish doubts over the safety of his position.

Such is United's attention to detail off the pitch and determination to remain one step ahead of the rest commercially, a finely-tuned operation now enables them to monitor social media to gauge the perception of their brand and leading figures.

It could be argued that, with Twitter, Facebook and a whole raft of websites now being watched by United, the noise and chatter of the Twittersphere is one thing that Moyes does not need to concern himself with as he attempts to survive, and then rebuild, at Old Trafford this summer.

With United's campaign of woe now reduced to five end-of-season games battling for the dubious prize of a place in the Europa League following the Champions League elimination against Bayern Munich, Moyes's future as manager will not become certain until the dust has settled on his first season in charge.

Whether he will be trusted by the Glazer family to invest in excess of £120  million on new players following such an unimpressive debut campaign at the club remains to be seen, although the odds are slightly in his favour.


Results and performances over the remaining fixtures will be central to Moyes's prospects, but supporter apathy and hostility is rarely a positive combination for any under-pressure manager.

The social media reaction to United's defeat in Munich suggests the Scot is in danger of becoming a trending topic for the wrong reasons.

Moyes's tactics and public comments have regularly been used as a stick with which to beat the 50-year-old this season, but his decision to play Wayne Rooney for 90 minutes in the Allianz Arena on Wednesday, despite subsequently admitting the player was struggling to strike the ball properly due to the pain of a toe injury, prompted anger among supporters.

In response to a tweet from United's official Twitter site, saying "David Moyes says 'small errors' cost #mufc vs Bayern Munich on Wednesday night", the response was an avalanche of cutting replies such as "the only error was appointing him", "the bigger error was his appointment" and "Sir Alex's biggest error was picking him".

Moyes rode the storm when a small group of supporters hired a plane trailing a message for him to go last month and successive league victories against Aston Villa and Newcastle have restored calm following calamitous home defeats against Liverpool and Manchester City.

While Moyes's players raised their game in both legs of the quarter-final against Bayern, the forthcoming fixtures against Everton, Norwich, Sunderland, Hull and Southampton are a return to grim reality for United.

End the season well and Moyes is likely to be trusted to continue the job he has started, but his position will again come under scrutiny if the campaign ends badly.

Behind the scenes, there is admiration at senior levels for the work Moyes has undertaken at United in modernising areas such as scouting and analytics.

Such achievements may appear trivial to the supporter interested only in seeing United win, but with the club being run, in the words of one senior figure, "like North Korea" by Sir Alex Ferguson, Moyes's modernisation is regarded as a crucial element of his job.

Moyes's detractors among the club's supporters - and there also remain players who have misgivings over his approach - cite his style of play as being alien to United's tradition.

With players such as Bayern Munich's Toni Kroos, Southampton's Luke Shaw, Paris St-Germain forward Edinson Cavani and Sporting Lisbon midfielder William Carvalho identified as leading targets, Moyes would argue that his team, with his players, would enable him to produce an outfit with the flair and ambition of previous United sides.

The United midfielder, Darren Fletcher, admits the club's players, as well as their manager, also face a month that could make or break their Old Trafford careers.

"We now have five or six league games left with nothing really to play for and that is a unique experience for us," Fletcher said. "We are disappointed and hurting, but we have to go into these games and win them.

"If you get a chance to play, you have to go and impress the manager and show him that you are capable of being here next year.

"He will definitely look back on this season and realise it was a disappointment, but I fully expect there to be some signings.

"So it is time to show the manager that you deserve to be at this club."

Meanwhile, United's pre-season friendly against Real Madrid in Ann Arbor, Michigan, on Aug 2 has been declared a 109,000 sell-out - understood to be the biggest attendance for a United game - on the first day of tickets being placed on sale.
 
120million is definitely enough. We can buy 3 £40million players with that if we have to. No left back will cost that much so you can knock a £10-15million from one.

Left back, midfielder and maybe a CB/another CM. It'll be fine.
 
Having a hard time buying a lot of that piece by Ogden, what could the last 5 games (which are effectively dead rubbers let be honest) do to change the boards thinking one way or the other.

Either they already know they are going to back him or give him the boot more or less, i doubt they are totally undecided and need 5 more games to make their mind up because the 50 or so we have already played just aren't enough to yet form an opinion.

I doubt the board give a flying fiddlers what people on twitter are saying either.
 
LVG hasnt officially started yet and I love the guy already

After last years farcical summer window, and Moyes panic buying the wrong player, that he worked with, for over the odds..... compare the situ now.... two great long term prospects on board, and players seemingly falling over themselves to join.

I'm actually getting fussy about who we sign now. Not bothered about Khedira, Di Maria or Sanchez, but would love Hummels, and one of Vidal or Krooz - thats a world away from last summer - appy days !
 
We needed more Moyes players last year, we didn't get them, we're doomed.
 
I don't think LVG has really done anything yet. We have completed two signings that were planned some time ago, and he will just have agreed to them.

What we don't have this summer is a manager desperate to bring in a world class player and tell the world about it - and a CEO who has learnt a lesson. That's good.

I don't think there's anything huge to shout about yet though. We have made two important team building signings but it remains to be seen if we can lift back up to the top level with them. Chelsea's business looks pretty good so far.
 
The fee would be too much and he's not exactly what we are after. Brilliant player though, but we just spent £28m on Herrera.
 
120million is definitely enough. We can buy 3 £40million players with that if we have to. No left back will cost that much so you can knock a £10-15million from one.

Left back, midfielder and maybe a CB/another CM. It'll be fine.
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Okay, it wasn't 40 million.
 
A lot think we should go for at least 4-5 new players this summer. Targeting absolut world class like di Maria, Vidal and Hummels. Its very very unlikey to get them all if even one. Of course if we can we should go for them all and fix all 3 problem areas of our first 11.

If not, should we nonetheless buy other players for the positions in demand?

Would it maybe be wiser not to occupy squad places and fill our salary budget with b-targets and instead wait for next summer, hoping our business so far is enough to get us back in CL and we have better chances next summer to get real world class players?
 
Does anyone think LVG will try sign some young talent for the future to bring through (I know Shaw and Herrera but theoretically they'll be first team)?

Jordy Classie, Iturbe, Thauvin, Zouma, Fischer or any of young dutch talents he knows about...be interesting to see.
 
Does anyone think LVG will try sign some young talent for the future to bring through (I know Shaw and Herrera but theoretically they'll be first team)?

Jordy Classie, Iturbe, Thauvin, Zouma, Fischer or any of young dutch talents he knows about...be interesting to see.

Clasie is shit and wouldn't be in the Dutch squad if it wasn't for injuries so doubt LVG rates him. Zouma went to Chelsea in January, Fischer's out till 2015 & Iturbe's move to Juve is all but official.

Would've loved if we were in for Iturbe though, huge talent.
 
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Would rather have a creative midfielder than a box-to-box one which we've already got. Not that we'll get either of them.

I think pace and power has shown itself in recent CL seasons to be superior for me. Vidal all day long with Herrera. Thats just my opinion yours is just as valid I admit....
 
Does anyone think LVG will try sign some young talent for the future to bring through (I know Shaw and Herrera but theoretically they'll be first team)?

Jordy Classie, Iturbe, Thauvin, Zouma, Fischer or any of young dutch talents he knows about...be interesting to see.
What a shit post. Why comment on players when you have no clue what's happening with them.
 
what do people make of the Valdes rumours? not the worst option imo, good competition for De Gea in the short term and a very good keeper so would give us two great options there.
 
Valdes would be pointless. He'd want big wages and want a starting place. He isn't better than De Gea and there's no point paying a back up in excess of £100k p/w when he'll play about 5 games a season. As long as Lindegaard doesn't want to leave then we're fine, he's more than good enough as back up.
 
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I think Lindegaard is the perfect back-up. As long he is still fine with being our no2 I see no reason to change something with the goalkeepers
 
What a shit post. Why comment on players when you have no clue what's happening with them.

To quote one of your posts: ''I still think we will get two players but not our top targets. Vidal will be too hard to get and we won't let things drag on like last summer, the same applies to hummels. I'm expecting vermalen and de Jong.''

Please let me know what is happening with Vermaelen and De Jong as you clearly know the inside track (something different from the papers we all read thanks).... I was asking a question ''do you think Van Gaal will buy some young talent in this window, that is not expected to be first team''
 
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I would only like LVG to bring in some youthful talent if it means we get a clear out of some of the squad fillers that we have. Young, Anderson, Fletcher.
If we brought in some youth all that would happen is when the opportunity arises to rotate the first 11 then players like Young would be selected ahead of them to justify the wages etc.
However apart from my football manager wonderkid list - IRL im not sure who.
 
From reviewing this thread, it appears the consensus was that we target:

1 Left-back
1 Centre-half
2 Central midfielders
1 Winger

This is apparently what the team needed to return to the top. There were talks of a '£200m warchest' was rumoured to be available, although many felt that was as an overly optimistic scenario.

Less than a week towards the end of the window, there is a very good chance our summer could like like this:

Shaw
Rojo
Herrera
Vidal/Carvalho
Di Maria

With the added bonus of getting rid of Moyes and getting a proven world-class manager. If we get Vidal, I would imagine we would have secured the caf's first-choice on 3 of the 5 players we wanted (with many also having Carvalho as a first-choice anyway), although there was probably a toss up between Reus and Di Maria.

Basically, we will have no further excuse. The surgery needed to the team would have been largely done. The £200m - odd would have been spent after all. There is also a good chance many demanded departures may occur in the coming few days too. The tools will be in place. Van Gaal simply has to get it right - Woodward would have done his bit.
 
From reviewing this thread, it appears the consensus was that we target:

1 Left-back
1 Centre-half
2 Central midfielders
1 Winger

This is apparently what the team needed to return to the top. There were talks of a '£200m warchest' was rumoured to be available, although many felt that was as an overly optimistic scenario.

Less than a week towards the end of the window, there is a very good chance our summer could like like this:

Shaw
Rojo
Herrera
Vidal/Carvalho
Di Maria

With the added bonus of getting rid of Moyes and getting a proven world-class manager. If we get Vidal, I would imagine we would have secured the caf's first-choice on 3 of the 5 players we wanted (with many also having Carvalho as a first-choice anyway), although there was probably a toss up between Reus and Di Maria.

Basically, we will have no further excuse. The surgery needed to the team would have been largely done. The £200m - odd would have been spent after all. There is also a good chance many demanded departures may occur in the coming few days too. The tools will be in place. Van Gaal simply has to get it right - Woodward would have done his bit.
Agreed - if, and it's a big if, we get Carvalho or Vidal there will be no excuse. Reaching top 4 is a bare minimum. For 200m spent I'd expect a decent title challenge.
 
From reviewing this thread, it appears the consensus was that we target:

1 Left-back
1 Centre-half
2 Central midfielders
1 Winger

This is apparently what the team needed to return to the top. There were talks of a '£200m warchest' was rumoured to be available, although many felt that was as an overly optimistic scenario.

Less than a week towards the end of the window, there is a very good chance our summer could like like this:

Shaw
Rojo
Herrera
Vidal/Carvalho
Di Maria

With the added bonus of getting rid of Moyes and getting a proven world-class manager. If we get Vidal, I would imagine we would have secured the caf's first-choice on 3 of the 5 players we wanted (with many also having Carvalho as a first-choice anyway), although there was probably a toss up between Reus and Di Maria.

Basically, we will have no further excuse. The surgery needed to the team would have been largely done. The £200m - odd would have been spent after all. There is also a good chance many demanded departures may occur in the coming few days too. The tools will be in place. Van Gaal simply has to get it right - Woodward would have done his bit.

Agreed, it's been a much better window than I would ever have expected to be honest. The Di Maria signing is just unbelievable, never would have thought something like that possible. Especially without the CL.

It remains to be seen how the players perform, but it looks to have been a fantastic window even without Vidal/Carvalho.