Summer Transfer Window 2017

Exactly that. While a part of us always loves the glamour of the exotic big name signings, it only takes a look at the Di Maria, Falcao signings that hyped everyone up, and turned to absolute disappointment.

Players who make us a better team is what we need.

It's just frustrating waiting for everything, fixtures, signings, tv games, draws etc :)
I know exactly what you mean. I just can't wait for the season to get started already.

Whilst I agree with what you say we do need some star quality added to this team also.
Sure. We always need some star quality but I think the emphasis should always to build the team first.
 
What is mentioned in the previous post is so true - build a team first before we sprinkle it with star quality. We should really focus on getting our main targets in like Morata, Fabinho and Perisic in before the pre-season starts. These players will be the core of the team that Jose is trying to build. Got a feeling that once these signings are sewn up, we will spring a major surprise, especially since we would be under no pressure to sign "core" players and if that no.7 jersey is still unclaimed by anyone. No, not Ronaldo - I am hoping that we sign Dembele sometime in the first week of August - our right wing is not really manned by the youngest players at the moment. Getting someone like Dembele and nurturing him like how we did with Ronaldo will be great to watch.
 
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Would we be happy lining up like this come August?

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De Gea
Valencia
Bailly
Lindolf
Shaw

Fabinho
Pogba
Herrera

Perisic
Rashford

Morata

In a 433 formation
 
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Wonder if we're just looking at one CM this summer (a defensive one) or maybe one defensive and one more box to box, maybe Nainggolen or Sanches?
 
Wonder if we're just looking at one CM this summer (a defensive one) or maybe one defensive and one more box to box, maybe Nainggolen or Sanches?

I reckon we'll bring 1 CM only this summer. With Carrick remaining I think that was somewhat predictable. I don't think we'll bring another midfielder unless Fellaini get sold.
 
I reckon we'll bring 1 CM only this summer. With Carrick remaining I think that was somewhat predictable. I don't think we'll bring another midfielder unless Fellaini get sold.
We have Pereira coming back as well, so he will add to the numbers.
 
We have Pereira coming back as well, so he will add to the numbers.

Oh I forgot everything about him. Will also be a very good squad option through the season.

If Fabinho comes, our midfield will be sorted for 5-6 years coming at least.
 
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Would we be happy lining up like this come August?

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De Gea
Valencia
Bailly
Lindolf
Shaw

Fabinho
Pogba
Herrera

Perisic
Rashford

Morata

In a 433 formation
I can't understand how you would pick Rashford ahead of Mkhitaryan in a 4-3-3.
 
I reckon we'll bring 1 CM only this summer. With Carrick remaining I think that was somewhat predictable. I don't think we'll bring another midfielder unless Fellaini get sold.
Yeah, true. Would be nice if we could sell Fellaini and buy Sanches for a similar price, although to be fair Fellaini wasn't bad last season when he played.
 
IMO missing out on Griezmann has completely fecked our plans.

I cannot see how we can strengthen our attack nearly to the extent we need to.
 
IMO missing out on Griezmann has completely fecked our plans.

I cannot see how we can strengthen our attack nearly to the extent we need to.
Yeah there is no one out there that is available who can add more to our attack than Griezmann. That is why I want us to go big for Sanchez even if there is a slight chance.
 
What happened to having the deals done before the start of july?
I've tried to be patient, but now i feel i'm getting more and more frustrated every day.
Just get Morata, Faninho and Perisic/someone else, done.
Please.
 
I cannot see how we can strengthen our attack nearly to the extent we need to.

I'm convinced that the Mbappe signing at Madrid will result in them selling Bale so, if that happens, that could be an option.

If not there's always Dembele and Lemar who could be got at the right price. All three options are infinitely better than Perisic.
 
If we really do end up with Lindelof, Fabinho, Morata and Semedo this would be an incredible transfer window. With those 4 additions we can challenge for the title.
We didn't even managed to challenge fourth position, specially due to our poor scoring ability, we're losing our main goalscorer (Zlatan) and maybe Rooney, only getting Morata upfront… and then we're challenging for the title?:rolleyes:
 
We didn't even managed to challenge fourth position, specially due to our poor scoring ability, we're losing our main goalscorer (Zlatan) and maybe Rooney, only getting Morata upfront… and then we're challenging for the title?:rolleyes:
In fairness if we had of put away even a third of our opportunities against the likes of Burnley stoke Etc. We would be there abouts even without additions. However with some of the right additions we could finish these games comfortably imo
 
What happened to having the deals done before the start of july?
I've tried to be patient, but now i feel i'm getting more and more frustrated every day.
Just get Morata, Faninho and Perisic/someone else, done.
Please.
If only we controlled everything and transfers were like buying a can of beans.

Every club wants ALL their business done early, but reality gets in the way.
 
Seems the whole transfer network is logjammed right now. Its not just us, look at Real and Chelsea or Arsenal. It seems Real are waiting for us to buy Morata so they can buy Mbappe and everyone else is waiting on Mbappe. A lot of the holdups are also down to the Confederations Cup and other Internationals, weddings and vacations. Most years transfer activity occurs quite late, after the Euros or WC. Not ideal but just the way things are. And sometimes waiting can lower the price (Perisic) or reveal new available options (Ronaldo, Bale, Dembele?). So patience is a better policy.
 
We need some big upgrades on both flanks if we want to compete. A sideways move for Perisic and nothing else won't make for a good season.
 
We should announce a signing this week at least. One of Morata, Perisic or Fabinho should be done before end of July.
 
it might. the person that needs to improve is the manager. we had a better squad than 6th last year. sideways moves are irrelevant because mourinho needs to step up massively
Partly but i also feel he was let down.

Martial spent the season moaning and btching on Twitter.
Mkhi bottled the entire season in typical Mkhi fashion.
Rashford forgot how to shoot.
Mata got the first injury of his career.
Shaw is Shaw.
Darmian is Darmian.
Valencia is world class until it comes to doing anything useful in the final third and he becomes Sunday league.

We need better options out wide.
 
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If the plan is to play 433 then I can't see us scoring enough goals with a front three of Perisic - Morata - Mhkitaryan/Mata. We should at least try to get Bale or someone of that caliber. If RM sign Mbappe, I can see them cashing in on Bale.
 
If the plan is to play 433 then I can't see us scoring enough goals with a front three of Perisic - Morata - Mhkitaryan/Mata. We should at least try to get Bale or someone of that caliber. If RM sign Mbappe, I can see them cashing in on Bale.
The plan shouldn't be 4-3-3, unless someone like Mkhitaryan starts playing there. My guess is we'll start with the preferred 4-2-3-1.
 
The plan shouldn't be 4-3-3, unless someone like Mkhitaryan starts playing there. My guess is we'll start with the preferred 4-2-3-1.
If Jose is indeed looking to sign a DM, then I can only assume we're going to play 4-3-3 or atleast start with 4-3-3 and probably turn to 4-2-3-1 sometime in the season because of lack of goals. I would rather a no.10 than a DM if we don't sign an elite/Prolific Winger or atleast striker.

Looking at our squad especially fullbacks, I think 4-2-3-1 suits us better. Our fullbacks simply aren't good enough going forward for us to play 4-3-3.
 
If Jose is indeed looking to sign a DM, then I can only assume we're going to play 4-3-3 or atleast start with 4-3-3 and probably turn to 4-2-3-1 sometime in the season because of lack of goals. I would rather a no.10 than a DM if we don't sign an elite/Prolific Winger or atleast striker.

Looking at our squad especially fullbacks, I think 4-2-3-1 suits us better. Our fullbacks simply aren't good enough going forward for us to play 4-3-3.
Can't understand that assumption. Mourinho tried to play Pogba on a midfield two earlier last season, and I think he's going to try again. The Herrera-Pogba pair is good, but maybe not enough for some games. We need a defensive midfielder as it is.
 
Can't understand that assumption. Mourinho tried to play Pogba on a midfield two earlier last season, and I think he's going to try again. The Herrera-Pogba pair is good, but maybe not enough for some games. We need a defensive midfielder as it is.
Herrera is one of the best if not the best defensively though. Any other signing would hardly be an improvement. The problem is Pogba's lack of discipline imo.
 
Looking at our squad especially fullbacks, I think 4-2-3-1 suits us better. Our fullbacks simply aren't good enough going forward for us to play 4-3-3.

In what way does inverting the midfield triangle mean we rely more on fullbacks from an attacking sense? 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 - what's the difference?
 
In what way does inverting the midfield triangle mean we rely more on fullbacks from an attacking sense? 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 - what's the difference?
My take on it is that the lack of the #10 means the striker generally has less support in a 433 unless a winger tucks in. Obviously, if they tuck in, the full-backs need to overlap more to provide the width that would be missing. Ideally both wingers will routinely cut in to overload the centre (Messi and Neymar, Ronaldo and Bale), meaning both full-backs need to be quality in attack to compensate. In a 4231, the presence of #10 means that the wingers can afford to stay wider without leaving the striker isolated, thus full-backs wouldn't need to worry about being the sole providers of width. The wide players are further up the pitch in a 433 as well, so as they're further away from the midfield, there's a greater chance of they themselves being isolated if a fullback isn't supporting.
 
Seems the whole transfer network is logjammed right now. Its not just us, look at Real and Chelsea or Arsenal. It seems Real are waiting for us to buy Morata so they can buy Mbappe and everyone else is waiting on Mbappe. A lot of the holdups are also down to the Confederations Cup and other Internationals, weddings and vacations. Most years transfer activity occurs quite late, after the Euros or WC. Not ideal but just the way things are. And sometimes waiting can lower the price (Perisic) or reveal new available options (Ronaldo, Bale, Dembele?). So patience is a better policy.
As long as we've done our business by the time we fly out on tour, like Jose said, it'll be fine.
 
Lindelof, Matic, Perisic and Morata. Job done. Think we can aim for top four with that.
 
Pretty boring window so far, isn't it? I am not only talking about United, but Europe in general. Not even the rumours are really interesting.
 
Lindelof, Matic, Perisic and Morata. Job done. Think we can aim for top four with that.
You really think we'd have enough creativity in attack to get the extra goals we'd need? Morata is basically replacing Ibra so I'm not sure that's an upgrade. Then you're adding Perisic who is a fairly functional player. Matic is not really going to help in that regard, he's a better Fellaini. There is no "X factor" there for me in attack. No Griezeman or Bale or even a Mane type player.
 
I think with transfers there's value to putting any potential deal into a category. In doing so, I am of the opinion that the following transfer profiles should be pursued by the club:
  1. The world class/near world class available "superstar" (i.e. Pogba). A rare beast but when the opportunity presents itself, we should grab it. It's hugely important to not persist with deals which won't happen however.
  2. The young-ish, talented prospect (i.e. Baily/David De Gea). There's a risk to these of course, you tend to pay quite a lot considering what they have actually achieved but if it works out, it proves great value in the long term.
  3. The stopgap. A player (often towards the end of a career), who is decent and available at a minimal price.
Of the three, the second would seem the best standard transfer for us at this point in time.

At the moment were hearing a lot of gossip over transfers which imo should be avoided:

4. The "Thank you very much Mr Woodward, come again!", players who often aren't young, aren't great, are of questionable improvement over what we have and who cost a fortune.

Hopefully the papers are wrong. :(
 
I think we are going to buy players in ascending order in value. Lindelof being cheapest, followed by Perisic (after to the 29 June), only then will we announce Fabinho who will be more expensive. Then Morata, and then a remotely possible, a mega bucks player, either from Real's BBC, or Mbappe.