Stretford End Flags ( aka Tufty )

fredthered

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Does he still post on here ?

I have a couple of questions I need to ask him about...
 
Small Paul said:
I think there was someone posting about a month ago about strettie flags, ask shane, he definitely knows!

Thanks mate...

I think Shane might be very interested in what I have to tell him...
 
fredthered said:
Thanks mate...

I think Shane might be very interested in what I have to tell him...

Im not sure if tufty was on or another lad from strettie flags, but shane certainly wasnt happy with him.

i got the impression it was something to do with money, possibly going missing. I dont know the full facts really.
 
Post it anyway Fred. I'm sure one of the SEF gimps will run off and tell him at the SEF forum.
 
The Hairdryer said:
Post it anyway Fred. I'm sure one of the SEF gimps will run off and tell him at the SEF forum.

No its not fair on Tufty.

He needs to be able to answer it himself...
 
I know of 2 members of SEF, 1 is Tufty, who I know only from forums, and I know to be a complete cnut.
The other is Fergus, I have a lot of time for Fergus, I have had many a conversation with him and the last time we communicated, he had parted company with Tufty and SEF. Fergus has since offered his assistance towards the LUHG organisation, I have passed his details on to them, as yet they have not required his help, but I am pretty sure Fergus is a good egg.

Tufty is basically a cnut, I doubt he will be showing his face around OT in the near future, he is naive at the best and a complete twat at the worst, either way, a lot of United fans are not out to forgive him.
If I were him I would tiptoe quietly into OT with a jesters hat on and a scarf obscuring my face, and even then I may opt for a pair of dark sunglasses.
 
Shane Bluck said:
Fred, email me the details, I will keep it confidential, and if you like, I will contact Tufty via Fergus.

PM sent mate.

You are not going to believe what the little cnut has gone and done this time...
 
fredthered said:
Does he still post on here ?

I have a couple of questions I need to ask him about...


He was banned from here fred back in June.
 
He was banned for persistant advertising of his site, despite being asked to stop.
 
A1Dan said:
There's a lot more hinted at in here though...


I'm sure there is a lot more to the Tufty story but that is why he was banned from here.
 
fredthered said:
Does he still post on here ?

I have a couple of questions I need to ask him about...

Am I not Tufty Fred? You suggested I was a few weeks back? :p

PS. I'm not Tufty
 
I've noticed something quite odd about Stretford End Flags' appeal for the Sir Alex Ferguson 25th anniversary banner.

Tufty launched the appeal on October 5th, stating £3,600 was needed to make the flag. By October 12th, he claimed £3,330 had been raised. He appealed for donations via Stretford End Flags' Facebook page and his own personal Twitter page (combined 6,350+ subscribers) on the 19th, 20th, 21st and 26th of October, but yet by today the figure stood at just £3,350.

What kind of appeal generates £3,330 in 7 days, then just £20 in 16 days? Despite appeals for donations being consistent throughout the 23 day period?
 
Because the only people who are really going to give any money to SEF are those that follow them and read their forums etc. and why would they wait until the following week to donate money when the most logical thing is to do it there and then before they forget?

I'd expect to see the same pattern from any niche fundraising activity. A large influx of cash from the die-hards right off the bat and then once thats come in, the odd scraps here and there from gullible fans.
 
Because the only people who are really going to give any money to SEF are those that follow them and read their forums etc. and why would they wait until the following week to donate money when the most logical thing is to do it there and then before they forget?

I'd expect to see the same pattern from any niche fundraising activity. A large influx of cash from the die-hards right off the bat and then once thats come in, the odd scraps here and there from gullible fans.
Come on, £3,330 in 7 days and then £20 in 16 despite several appeals in those 16 days? He obviously appeals on the Facebook page because he gets donations from that. He made an appeal for donations on the 21st on his Facebook page saying there had been £3,350 donated. 5 days later, another appeal and it's still £3,350? So not a penny was donated from the first appeal? Why appeal again then? This despite a similar appeal at the start magically drawing £3.3k. I accept donations slow down the longer a campaign goes, but that's ludicrous, and frankly I don't believe it.

He's also refused to provide the Paypal information that could so easily prove this, saying I'd just draw my own conclusions to fit my "agenda".
 
I'm sure the man is every bit the cnut everybody says, but what you're implying is quite a serious accusation, Feeky - you can get 5 years for that (12 months in a magistrate's court).

Not sure what verifiable Paypal information you want him to provide, but if you do suspect foul play, why not use the same channels (facebook etc) to appeal for anybody who has donated since 12th, and see if more than £20 worth of people respond?
 
I'm sure the man is every bit the cnut everybody says, but what you're implying is quite a serious accusation, Feeky - you can get 5 years for that (12 months in a magistrate's court).

Not sure what verifiable Paypal information you want him to provide, but if you do suspect foul play, why not use the same channels (facebook etc) to appeal for anybody who has donated since 12th, and see if more than £20 worth of people respond?

Because that's a terribly unreliable way of doing it. I could just get a bunch of my mates to respond. I'm sure someone like him who's taking fan donations must keep some sort of record or the other he can provide.
 
Because that's a terribly unreliable way of doing it. I could just get a bunch of my mates to respond. I'm sure someone like him who's taking fan donations must keep some sort of record or the other he can provide.

Yes, but how does he prove not to have made a transaction?

So he sends you a bunch of Paypal invoice records totalling £3,350 - what does that prove?

Whereas a fan who has made a donation can prove that they have - by producing a Paypal invoice record.
 
Hold on who is this Tufty and what has he done? And how come so many of you know who he is. What's going on
 
I think it's time the full details of Tufty's various misdemeanours were publicised....
I agree. I don´t know who the feck he is but he seems nearly as known of other United-fans as Pete Boyle. If he is anything near a cnut as you lot describe him, how the feck can he still be doin his shit? As I´ve said I don´t know him so I don´t defend him nor do I accuse him but it just feels odd that he is still within the hardcore United or atleast able to wind you up. I apologise if this offend people who know this character but living in Sweden makes it hard to know the "inside stuff" goin around United-fans. Fill me in please
 
I agree. I don´t know who the feck he is but he seems nearly as known of other United-fans as Pete Boyle. If he is anything near a cnut as you lot describe him, how the feck can he still be doin his shit? As I´ve said I don´t know him so I don´t defend him nor do I accuse him but it just feels odd that he is still within the hardcore United or atleast able to wind you up. I apologise if this offend people who know this character but living in Sweden makes it hard to know the "inside stuff" goin around United-fans. Fill me in please

I've read this post about half a dozen times and I'm still unearthing brilliant nuances.
 
I agree. I don´t know who the feck he is but he seems nearly as known of other United-fans as Pete Boyle. If he is anything near a cnut as you lot describe him, how the feck can he still be doin his shit? As I´ve said I don´t know him so I don´t defend him nor do I accuse him but it just feels odd that he is still within the hardcore United or atleast able to wind you up. I apologise if this offend people who know this character but living in Sweden makes it hard to know the "inside stuff" goin around United-fans. Fill me in please

I'll fill you in mate.

For a start, no where near as many people know him as they pretend to do on here, most have just jumped on the band wagon. Redcafe is also not 'the hardcore united' there are a few you could describe as that but you probably won't know who they are (I'm not saying anyone on here or in this thread pretends they are either).

He is a bit of a helmet at times to be fair but I've no Idea why people who've never even seen or met him think they have to have a go just because someone else has.

Whatever he is and whatever he's done, 1 Tuffy and his passion for United is better than 40,000 day trippers sat singing feck all worrying about people treading on their megastore bag.
 
I'll fill you in mate.

For a start, no where near as many people know him as they pretend to do on here, most have just jumped on the band wagon. Redcafe is also not 'the hardcore united' there are a few you could describe as that but you probably won't know who they are (I'm not saying anyone on here or in this thread pretends they are either).

He is a bit of a helmet at times to be fair but I've no Idea why people who've never even seen or met him think they have to have a go just because someone else has.

Whatever he is and whatever he's done, 1 Tuffy and his passion for United is better than 40,000 day trippers sat singing feck all worrying about people treading on their megastore bag.

I know Red Cafe is not the hardcore since it´s people from all over the world discussing things in here. Before I get attacked that´s not a bad thing but hardcore to me is more or less the ones going to away-games regurarly. What do you mean I probably don´t know any? I´ve met Tony O´Neill and some others. I´m also a daytripper since I´m going to Otelul and Sunderland and nothing more this season but that is because I can´t bloody afford it. Thanks for clearing this Tufty shit though mate