Television Stranger Things (Netflix Original) | CONTAINS SPOILERS

I thought they got rid of will in season 1 maybe because he was shit actor but he gives a show stealing performance in this. All the kids are brilliant bar maybe mad Max.
 
vi1lain said:
I think it ties in with the 80s, his fathers’ abuse towards him - even his father called him a sissy or something, and the general perception of gay people back then too.
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Doesn't have to be the perception 'back then' really. Especially in a small town.

That said, he's bi at best because he was totally going to knock the bottom out of the hot mom.
 
Finally watched the last episode so I can come back in here. Loved the last one. Didn't think much happened in the series until that episode but still enjoyed it the whole thing.
Disagree about the new monster not being ominous. Was about as ominous as it gets if you ask me. Maybe because it was kinda always in the upside down, but I'm guessing that might change next season.
Loved the extra cheesy nostalgic stuff; the improvised adventure gear they had on to go, the tomboy girl with attitude, and even the daft cyber punk episode that I reckon is to set up a spin off one day.
 
Organic Potatoes said:
Doesn't have to be the perception 'back then' really. Especially in a small town.

That said, he's bi at best because he was totally going to knock the bottom out of the hot mom.
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Eh, I didn’t think he was genuinely interested in the mom, he just used her to get the information he wanted to find Max.
It didn’t seem genuine on his part to me personally - it just came across like a cliche ott display of masculinity, but I could be wrong.
 
VeevaVee said:
Finally watched the last episode so I can come back in here. Loved the last one. Didn't think much happened in the series until that episode but still enjoyed it the whole thing.
Disagree about the new monster not being ominous. Was about as ominous as it gets if you ask me. Maybe because it was kinda always in the upside down, but I'm guessing that might change next season.
Loved the extra cheesy nostalgic stuff; the improvised adventure gear they had on to go, the tomboy girl with attitude, and even the daft cyber punk episode that I reckon is to set up a spin off one day.
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Oh please God no.
 
Really enjoyed both seasons, minus episode 7.
I personally preferred season 1
I think having both the human threat in the doctors & not knowing what the feck was going on with the doggy/upsidedown. Made the difference.
Also, was the doggy from s1 the same as the army of doggies from s2? Those feckers got nerfed hard.



Steve/Dustin best performers s2 & Will did extremely well.
Mike took over from Lucas as the annoying prat in s2.
Nancy/Jon were great s1 but a bit meh s2.
Preferred El with the group but Hopper was brilliant in both.
New characters were hit/miss, Bob/doctor were pretty good - Max/hardman were lackluster.
Surprised there was nothing on the 'portals' opening in random spots like s1 & no doggies came through walls.
Also they kind of confined it to the group / doctors and aside from the pumpkin complaints, nothing really happened to anyone else in the town.
Overall a very good show.
 
Dirty Schwein said:
I thought they got rid of will in season 1 maybe because he was shit actor but he gives a show stealing performance in this. All the kids are brilliant bar maybe mad Max.
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Netflix Germany has "Beyond stranger things", set of episodes where the duffer brothers talk with the actors about certain aspects of the series. you guys got that too?

I felt entertained by season 2, but i feel it is weaker than S1. The Max character and her stepbrother especially are underdeveloped.
Why on earth would a cool girl like Max show up at a new school, and *only* make friends with the local group of nerds which, frankly, could be 2 years her minor.

Her brother is just a massive clichee. That "hot mom" scene? Seriously? Looked like he chats up hot milfs every day.. i had him more in the college girls/cheerleaders category :)

The "explanation" of his behaviour in that scene with his dad looked very much like a last minute addendum "oh yeah we need to give that background, lets put something in there to explain why he is such a massive cock but don't waste more than 5 min on it" and all of a sudden a dad and a mum materialize from thin air.
I had hopes after the first scene with both of them in his car and those "its your fault we are here" remarks they, or someone in their family, had something to do with the mystery/upside down-plot, maybe Government, lab, whoever, but nada.

Seems uneven paced. As little as happens in the first couple of episodes, as rushed the second half of the season feels.

i didn't hate the El-episode (was that #7?)
 
Everything with Steve and Hopper was great.

Everything with Jonathan, Nancy and Number 8 was pretty crap.
 
strongwalker said:
Netflix Germany has "Beyond stranger things", set of episodes where the duffer brothers talk with the actors about certain aspects of the series. you guys got that too?

I felt entertained by season 2, but i feel it is weaker than S1. The Max character and her stepbrother especially are underdeveloped.
Why on earth would a cool girl like Max show up at a new school, and *only* make friends with the local group of nerds which, frankly, could be 2 years her minor.
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Back in the 1980s a tomboy girl that rode a skateboard would not have been "cool" to the typical in-clique. Other girls would have shunned her (check out the 80s movie Heathers for an exaggerated but still revealing view on how Max would have been seen by the popular girly girls). How her character fits in there is pretty accurate to my experience growing up in the 80s.

That said, I agree she was underdeveloped and the stepbro was too cliche.
 
oneniltothearsenal said:
Back in the 1980s a tomboy girl that rode a skateboard would not have been "cool" to the typical in-clique. Other girls would have shunned her (check out the 80s movie Heathers for an exaggerated but still revealing view on how Max would have been seen by a lot of the popular girls). How her character fits in there is pretty accurate to my experience growing up in the 80s.
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Yep. A tomboyish skateboarding girl would not have been cool in a provincial US High School in 1980's USA.
 
S2 was at least as good as S1. One slow episode that was necessary to set up the finale and add some back story and the rest were brilliant. Bring on S3.
 
Just finished up the second season, and I thought it was just excellent. Overall, I think I liked it even better than season one. I found the tension grabbed me more in this one.

That said, episode seven and the anarchist punks was absolutely terrible. And I felt kinda "oh no" about the prospect of this segueing into another "gifteds vs normals", which they hinted at far too strongly in episode. It's been done so many times already, and it goes against everything that's great about this show, as far as I'm concerned.

Contrary to popular belief, I really enjoyed the addition of the MADMAX character, even if she was perhaps a little underdeveloped. Her brother seemed entirely unnecessary though, and seemed like he was only there as contrast, to highlight King Steve's character development. And I think we all would've managed to notice Steve's awesomeness this season without that guy to shove it in our faces.
 
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Contrary to popular belief, I really enjoyed the addition of the MADMAX character, even if she was perhaps a little underdeveloped. Her brother seemed entirely unnecessary though, and seemed like he was only there as contrast, to highlight King Steve's character development. And I think we all would've managed to notice Steve's awesomeness this season without that guy to shove it in our faces.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I think it was for that too. Also just because it's very cliche 80s as well. They both were. I liked them because of that tbh.
 
On a side note, has anybody else been able to log into US Netflix again?
I tried it out of curiosity using a free VPN and had no problems, after a while i get the message but I just disable proxy in the menu ( in the selection, not switching it off itself) and it works again.
Did everything ease off after the purge?
 
I had a bunch of individual gripes that were building episode by episode, about plot repetition, character stagnation and the original conceit becoming stale, but these seem unimportant now that it's clear that the original show has mutated into just another drawn out, plot heavy, soapy drama; formulaic franchise tv that presents mystery for the sake of mystery loving fan theorists. I now have to file it away with Lost, West World and all the others in the draw labeled everone loves this stuff? and never look at it again. 3 more seasons of plot Buckaroo? not for me. I'm guessing the bad sequel cliche gag has been done already. Seriously disappointing.

I'll look out for the Duffers down the road once they've extricated themselves from this tv thing. Season 2 wasn't an easy ask so no hard feelings.
 
Agree with @dumbo, season 2 was absolute shite. Had some moments here and there but most of it was just horrible, cringeworthy stuff. Don't really know how anyone can "love" it.
 
Mockney said:
Watched 7 so far and it’s certainly the same quality as the first. But then I am one of the apparent few people on earth who thought the first was merely good, rather than amazing. Its probably slightly better in fact, due to the lack of anything as daft as an instantly on hand fake dead boy body, and they do a very good job of pacing it. The kids are better too, and they were already one of the shows biggest charms.

The only major flaw so far (and I’ve not seen the last 2 so this might well change) is that they patently didn’t know what to do with...

Eleven...Her main arc is kinda done and Will takes her place as the spooky central focus of the plot, so she’s left to just drift around the edges. But as the shows most iconic character, they needed to give her something to do, so they shunt her into a weirdly out of place spin off episode, with a supporting cast of wholly unlikeable cartoon punks (who look like they’d have a mugging foiled in the opening scene of a Schumacher Batman film) and it doesn’t really work.

Also the new “bully” isn’t convincing. Not because he can’t act, but ‘cos he looks like Zac Efron in a comedy wig doing an SNL bit.
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Yup. That whole episode where 11 “hangs with the punks" was garbage. Every minute of that episode was borderline unwatchable. Just complete cringe from start to finish. Couldn't work out if it was because that strand of the narrative was so fecking stupid or that they were all really bad actors. Possibly both? Which is, coincidentally, the same problem I had with the bully. Unsure whether he was really badly written or just can't act worth a shite. Either way, he stank out every single scene he was in.

These two elements would have made the series a good bit worse than S1 all on their own but there was a load of other silly stuff which was the nail in the coffin for me.

The whole "crayon map" thing was absurd. Especially when cuddly nerd boyfriend began working out it was an actual map. I mean, come on. Can you imagine how impossible that puzzle would be to put together? And what's with the going up and down walls and along the roof? Why would you do that?!

I also disliked the conspiracy theory journo guy and his silly vodka analogy. "We water it down" Feck off. And what was the whole psycho-analysis of their relationship bit about? That was another lead balloon.

Actually, the more I write about it, the less I like it.

I mean, it was ok, but it was also fairly shit. Very disappointing overall.
 
Roosney said:
Agree with @dumbo, season 2 was absolute shite. Had some moments here and there but most of it was just horrible, cringeworthy stuff. Don't really know how anyone can "love" it.
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Just finished season 2 and kind of agree with this but wouldn't go as far as saying it's shite. Complained about this before but so many stupid moves by the characters, and what happened to the monsters one minute they are indestructible from gunfire the next minute Hopper is picking them off like a computer game.

Was cheesy but the show made me laugh and was entertaining. Dustin and Steve were the best characters imo. Mike is terrible such an annoying little shit.
 
Finished season 1, loved it. The final episode, maaaan Hoppers flashback killed me. His cute little daughter dying from cancer. :(
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Yup. That whole episode where 11 “hangs with the punks" was garbage. Every minute of that episode was borderline unwatchable. Just complete cringe from start to finish. Couldn't work out if it was because that strand of the narrative was so fecking stupid or that they were all really bad actors. Possibly both? Which is, coincidentally, the same problem I had with the bully. Unsure whether he was really badly written or just can't act worth a shite. Either way, he stank out every single scene he was in.

These two elements would have made the series a good bit worse than S1 all on their own but there was a load of other silly stuff which was the nail in the coffin for me.

The whole "crayon map" thing was absurd. Especially when cuddly nerd boyfriend began working out it was an actual map. I mean, come on. Can you imagine how impossible that puzzle would be to put together? And what's with the going up and down walls and along the roof? Why would you do that?!

I also disliked the conspiracy theory journo guy and his silly vodka analogy. "We water it down" Feck off. And what was the whole psycho-analysis of their relationship bit about? That was another lead balloon.

Actually, the more I write about it, the less I like it.

I mean, it was ok, but it was also fairly shit. Very disappointing overall.
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I finished that episode but lost the motivation to watch the rest. I should, I mean I liked it up until this point. Nowhere near as good as season 1.
 
Has anyone else started experiencing messed up dreams after watching this programme. My wife and I are flying through the series in the space of a few weeks and are on season 2 episode episode 7.

I've noticed, especially during the 2nd season, that I've started to have nightmares. Given I very very rarely have bad dreams, mostly my dreams are actually pretty damn good, I'm putting this down to the programme as makes perfect sense.

Only two episodes left so silly to stop now but just curious if anyone else experiencing the same.
 
We need an rvn said:
Has anyone else started experiencing messed up dreams after watching this programme. My wife and I are flying through the series in the space of a few weeks and are on season 2 episode episode 7.

I've noticed, especially during the 2nd season, that I've started to have nightmares. Given I very very rarely have bad dreams, mostly my dreams are actually pretty damn good, I'm putting this down to the programme as makes perfect sense.

Only two episodes left so silly to stop now but just curious if anyone else experiencing the same.
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After I watched an episode I had a dream about elevens mum, proper creepy.
 
I'd happily swap any of the mums over the messed up stuff I've been having - I'm talking one of those alien type things eating someone's guts and then running at me and I wake up sweating type stuff! Pretty tempted for ask for a spoiler so i don't have to watch anymore
 
Finished and enjoyed season two, much preferred the mystery around season one though. Wan't a fan of the whole "smoke monster is back for season three but now it's pissed off" ending though.

The whole other dimension plot device could have been used to introduce other stuff for season three.
 
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