Really surprised they decided to return to that clusterfeck of a saga. Seems they've learned nothing from Andor then, which had managed to give me a new hope for Star Wars.Oh, boy....
The next movie is going to be a Rey Palpatine one. Daisy Ridley is back. I won't be watching but the reactions are going to be fun.
I'm not that surprised. Disney are pretty dumb nowadays, and they'll do anything to get their characters over. Look at what they did to Luke to get Rey over, and then what they did to Obi-Wan to get what'shername over.Really surprised they decided to return to that clusterfeck of a saga. Seems they've learned nothing from Andor then, which had managed to give me a new hope for Star Wars.
They’ve basically done Luke dirty and replaced his character with Rey haven’t they. She’s got his weapon, his last name, his ship, his position as the last Jedi, and now we get to watch as she rebuilds the Jedi order, which is what Luke was apparently doing before Disney stepped in and undid everything that happened in the first 6 films.I'm not that surprised. Disney are pretty dumb nowadays, and they'll do anything to get their characters over. Look at what they did to Luke to get Rey over, and then what they did to Obi-Wan to get what'shername over.
They won't rest until they bury the OG characters and establish their ones as the faces of the franchise.
It's sad reading this, but, yeah, that's it. Everyone knows Kathleen Kennedy hates Luke, and what Star Wars was in general before Disney.They’ve basically done Luke dirty and replaced his character with Rey haven’t they. She’s got his weapon, his last name, his ship, his position as the last Jedi, and now we get to watch as she rebuilds the Jedi order, which is what Luke was apparently doing before Disney stepped in and undid everything that happened in the first 6 films.
It’s the exact same story all over again - poor orphaned desert teenager discovers the force and defeats their evil (grand) father to restore balance to the galaxy. Great job Disney.
It's sad reading this, but, yeah, that's it. Everyone knows Kathleen Kennedy hates Luke, and what Star Wars was in general before Disney.
Looking back, the writing was on the wall when Disney immediately killed the expanded universe. They would've loved to have killed off the first 6 films if they could, too, as you can see by them rewriting the original story into oblivion. RIP Kyle Katarn.
Well, they said as soon as they bought the franchise from Lucas that the EU was non-canon as they wanted their own stories.I'm no fan of Disney SW but how are they rewriting the original story and killing the expanded Universe? I'm not really a fan so...I genuinely'd like to know.
That's a pretty good recap.Well, they said as soon as they bought the franchise from Lucas that the EU was non-canon as they wanted their own stories.
As for the OG story, there's so many examples. The whole Obi-Wan Kenobi show basically tore the story apart. Kenobi failing to protect Luke, Kenobi meeting Leia, Kenobi and Vader facing off before episode 4, etc. Bringing Palpatine back in episode 9 when the entire story was supposed to be Anakin destroying the sith. Turns out his death was pointless.
Others have gone more in depth on all the changes and it's obvious they don't want the OG story to be canon. They want everything to be their own version, which is fine as it's their property now, but sucks for us fans who loved the original story.
Well, they said as soon as they bought the franchise from Lucas that the EU was non-canon as they wanted their own stories.
As for the OG story, there's so many examples. The whole Obi-Wan Kenobi show basically tore the story apart. Kenobi failing to protect Luke, Kenobi meeting Leia, Kenobi and Vader facing off before episode 4, etc. Bringing Palpatine back in episode 9 when the entire story was supposed to be Anakin destroying the sith. Turns out his death was pointless.
Others have gone more in depth on all the changes and it's obvious they don't want the OG story to be canon. They want everything to be their own version, which is fine as it's their property now, but sucks for us fans who loved the original story.
Even with a good writer, the movie will have a hard time, considering the reception of sequel trilogy. I don't understand this decision from business or fan service perspective. Very risky and could possibly be a flop that buries the franchise in cinema limbo for a decade.As long as they get a good writer i'm sure Daisy Ridley will be fine. I do have my doubts about them finding a good writer.
Well yeah, it is fecked anyway with the old fan base.Even with a good writer, the movie will have a hard time, considering the reception of sequel trilogy. I don't understand this decision from business or fan service perspective. Very risky and could possibly be a flop that buries the franchise in cinema limbo for a decade.
Rey is probably the least interesting, worst written character in the entire Star Wars universe and, yes, I am remembering that Jar Jar Binks was in the prequels.Oh, boy....
The next movie is going to be a Rey Palpatine one. Daisy Ridley is back. I won't be watching but the reactions are going to be fun.
Oh, boy....
The next movie is going to be a Rey Palpatine one. Daisy Ridley is back. I won't be watching but the reactions are going to be fun.
Yeah. Lars Mikkelson plays Thrawn.All in on that one.That's Thrawn finally isn't it?
Oh, boy....
The next movie is going to be a Rey Palpatine one. Daisy Ridley is back. I won't be watching but the reactions are going to be fun.
Directing the movies will be James Mangold, Dave Filoni and Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy.
Mangold's film will return to the dawn of the Jedi.
Filoni's will be about the New Republic, and "will close out the interconnected stories told in 'The Mandalorian,' 'The Book of Boba Fett,' 'Ahsoka,' and other Disney+ series," the announcement said.
Obaid-Chinoy's movie will focus on the events after "The Rise of Skywalker," and feature Ridley back as Rey "as she builds a new Jedi Order."
I believe the original script for The Force Awakens was written by the guy who did Toy Story 3 and had Luke as a prominent figure until Lucas film executives stepped in and changed it because he was taking too much attention away from the new characters. Yeah, no shit! He's Luke Skywalker and your new characters are terrible.Ta for that.
Remember the theories about Jar Jar being a sith? Might as well bring him back like everyone else and go that route. At least it'd be funny!Rey is probably the least interesting, worst written character in the entire Star Wars universe and, yes, I am remembering that Jar Jar Binks was in the prequels.
I don't know about you but I haven't watched any Star Wars since episode 8 bar the Luke scenes in the TV shows. Never watched episode 9 and probably never will.Come on. It could be a 1/10 steaming pile of dung but we're all be watching on day 1.
A new Jedi order, the dark fall etc? Could be set for a whole 9 movies.
Maybe... Now that we got her Mary Sue problem aside Rey can finally start to show her acting prowess.
Oh well.. who cares.. movies are cheap nowdays.. good or bad I've seen worse and still pays for the admission fee
Thrawn is coming soon. To one of the shows.I’ve never read the thrawn books or any of the old EU, but I really wish they’d just adapted that to start with. Everyone seems to rate it highly, and they had the story right there laid out. We didn’t need sith coming back, that story was done.
Didn’t they shoehorn Thrawn into one of the cartoons in some other timeline? I guess that’s the end of that then
I’ve never read the thrawn books or any of the old EU, but I really wish they’d just adapted that to start with. Everyone seems to rate it highly, and they had the story right there laid out. We didn’t need sith coming back, that story was done.
Didn’t they shoehorn Thrawn into one of the cartoons in some other timeline? I guess that’s the end of that then
How does that tie in with that cartoon? I take it they just nabbed the character and nothing else, no story ideas?Thrawn is coming soon. To one of the shows.
I have no idea buddy, i havent been watching the cartoons.How does that tie in with that cartoon? I take it they just nabbed the character and nothing else, no story ideas?
Fair enough, me neither. As far as I’m concerned it ends after episode 6 and that’s itI have no idea buddy, i havent been watching the cartoons.
It's sad reading this, but, yeah, that's it. Everyone knows Kathleen Kennedy hates Luke, and what Star Wars was in general before Disney.
Looking back, the writing was on the wall when Disney immediately killed the expanded universe. They would've loved to have killed off the first 6 films if they could, too, as you can see by them rewriting the original story into oblivion. RIP Kyle Katarn.
Personally, I'm not a fan of the EU apart from a few things, but buying the franchise and immediately killing it was a bad sign. Especially when there was popular stuff that would've made for great content like Kyle Katarn's story and Mara Jade.Killing the EU was a great decision. They've been bringing back parts of it so they obviously see value in it, but keeping a canon universe where any random person just wants to make the new character 100 times stronger than Vader is a dumb decision. You can't move a franchise forward with neckbeards on the internet saying 'actually Darth Renglow could take down star destroyers in his sleep with his grasp of the force, he could astral project him fighting Maul, Vader and Palpatine at the same time and is the only one to be in tune with both the light and dark in perfect balance as demonstrated when he blew up Tython and Korriban at the same time with his sheer willpower alone.' The EU had some great stories, and a whole lot of ridiculous. Nixing it and bringing back parts of it is a better decision, and you can still read and enjoy those stories.
Personally, I'm not a fan of the EU apart from a few things, but buying the franchise and immediately killing it was a bad sign. Especially when there was popular stuff that would've made for great content like Kyle Katarn's story and Mara Jade.
They always saw value in it but hated it because it was pre-Disney. Just like they hate the first 6 films, but they couldn't kill them like the EU. What everything pre-Disney is to them is a safety net. When their own stuff fails, they bring something back. They'd rather that stuff be forgotten about, but, they keep needing to bring it back to keep the remaining goodwill they have left in tact.
If all of their own stuff had took off, you'd barely see anything from the Lucas era. However, because everything they've done has come nowhere the popularity of the Lucas stuff apart from Grogu, they begrudgingly bring stuff back. They don't bring the stuff back to honour the story or make entertaining content, though. They bring it back to to put out the fires their stuff causes and then to further their idea of what Star Wars should be.
Disney have had Star Wars for just over a decade, with their first piece of content being less than a decade old, and the apathy towards the franchise is something none of us would've predicted. It's a remarkable achievement to do what they've done to the fanbase in under a decade after everyone was seemingly on the same page after TFA.
Eh?The Star Wars universe is too small for its own good. It’s boxed itself in so now every iteration has to have Jedi, Rebels, Empire in it. Any deviation from those three and nobody gives a shit.
At least Star Trek got it right and they’re not totally revolving everything around Kirk, Spock, Bones, Romulans, Khan etc… they can throw in Picard, Borg, Sisko, Janeway, Dominion in there.
Yesterday I gave Andor a try and it's one of my favorite sci fi shows ever. First 3 episodes are a character prologue while keeping you immersed in the Universe. I am literally shocked at the level of quality writing that is coming from the same studio that made Rey.
Even if you don't care about Star Wars, I would highly recommend this show to anyone that wants a well written, dark, spy, character driven story.
I struggled with it and fell asleep a fee times.Yesterday I gave Andor a try and it's one of my favorite sci fi shows ever. First 3 episodes are a character prologue while keeping you immersed in the Universe. I am literally shocked at the level of quality writing that is coming from the same studio that made Rey.
Even if you don't care about Star Wars, I would highly recommend this show to anyone that wants a well written, dark, spy, character driven story.
It's on my list.Yesterday I gave Andor a try and it's one of my favorite sci fi shows ever. First 3 episodes are a character prologue while keeping you immersed in the Universe. I am literally shocked at the level of quality writing that is coming from the same studio that made Rey.
Even if you don't care about Star Wars, I would highly recommend this show to anyone that wants a well written, dark, spy, character driven story.