Spurs 2018/19
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Not sure but an article on F365 shows that Spurs have made the least amount of in-game substitutions among the big six this season. It's not a big difference but potentially points toward overplaying their star players.
https://www.football365.com/news/bench-pressed-big-sixs-most-subbed-players-and-their-replacements
I don't think that's easy to say. Kane barely missed a minute, but these things can be fairly subjective. Attackers like Messi, Ronaldo or Lewandowski seem to have (had) no problem starting every match for years while others players of the same team aren't so fortunate. And not every injury is affected by freshness. Sometimes you just make an unlucky movement or you get fouled.
So if Spurs don't make top 4 but Ole does, how weird would it be if we got Pochetinno in instead of Ole?
Not that weird. If we miss out on top 4 it will be because of a freak injury crisis robbing Pochettino of nearly all of his key men.
I doubt Ole would be doing so well at United if Rashford, Martial, Pogba and Matic were ripped out of the team like we're going to have to deal with Alli, Kane, Son and Sissoko being missing.
It's a bitch of a situation, I have faith in the team to get through it but I certainly would place no blame on the manager if we were to suffer a lot of dropped points in the coming period. He can't turn water in to wine.
So if Spurs don't make top 4 but Ole does, how weird would it be if we got Pochetinno in instead of Ole?
In that scenario, It would be even weirder if Poch joined us and Ole joined Spurs.
How do people feel about that happening?
It'd only be a loan deal
It'd only be a loan deal
So if Poch fails we can sack him and recall Ole? Yeah, I'll buy that.
If you were to pick three players that Spurs wouldn't want to have missing at such an important time of the season, chances are it would be three from Kane, Son, Alli and Eriksen. Puts a serious dent in their Carabao Cup and CL prospects and if they drop too many points in the PL games coming up they might find their chances of top 4 will take a hit also.
The players Spurs have missing just now probably tips the balance firmly in favour of Chelsea for the semi on Thursday and could also prove crucial in their FA Cup tie also.
The players Spurs have missing just now probably tips the balance firmly in favour of Chelsea for the semi on Thursday and could also prove crucial in their FA Cup tie also.
You’re right of course. Although United have a bit more depth than spurs and could probably cope better. Obviously that’s not the managers fault though and I know you personally were quite disappointed with the lack of signings in the summer.
I think 2 extra points they got in the last minute on Sunday will be crucial to them for top 4. They also have a nice set of PL fixtures over the next few weeks despite the injuries.
Probably, though you would definitely find it hard to play the same kind of fast, counter attacking football if you had to fall back on the likes of Lukaku and Mata. Good players no doubt, but it would make the situation much tougher.
I was disappointed, but in fairness our attacking depth is pretty strong. It's just freak bad luck that all of Kane, Son, Alli and Lucas are out right now. We could do with a better backup striker than Llorente but we're in the position of possessing a world class striker in Kane, meaning that nobody who is decent/in their prime is going to want to come to us to play second fiddle. Son is a good stand in but of course he's away in Asia, so yeah .. just terrible luck. Mostly I wanted signings in midfield, where we're seriously lacking due to a number of injury prone players, especially now Dembele has gone.
End of the day there's no way we could afford a situation like United where you have 40m Juan Mata , 75m Lukaku, 50m Fred or one of the highest paid players in the league (Sanchez) sat on the bench. As a club we're just not capable of doing that so you have to accept that we have certain limitations and this is a case of a really, really unlucky run of injuries. Again, the annoying thing for me is the midfield situation, that was entirely predictable and is not down to bad luck but poor planning.
Yeah, you are seriously having some awful luck. United on the other hand have a massive opportunity now. Chelsea are infighting, spurs are injury ridden and Arsenal have just suffered another injury set back. It honestly feels odd tbh as we have always had our own injury crisis over the years (suppose we could still have one). I almost feel sorry for spurs. Only almost though!
Spurs are a good side and I'd hate to see them drop out of the top four, but I like our chances now of catching them. It's going to come down to Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal for fourth place.
The injuries this season have been ridiculous and getting even more so now. Very annoying they've all been in the same area of the pitch.
I think the aspersions cast on squad depth have been a bit unfair seeing as we've been the worst affected this season and still sit 3rd and in all 3 cups too.
However, with things as they are now, I would be very surprised if we were still in any of them by the beginning of March. Such a shame.
I think the aspersions cast on squad depth have been a bit unfair seeing as we've been the worst affected this season and still sit 3rd and in all 3 cups too.
However, with things as they are now, I would be very surprised if we were still in any of them by the beginning of March. Such a shame.
Spurs can still put out a decent 11, it’s the lack of a goal scorer that’ll ruin their chances of top 4.
Dier, Winks & Eriksen is a decent midfield. Lucas is a good option in attack, but Lamela and Llorente are a bit meh.
Don’t they have anyone in their youth side that could be worth a shot upfront?
Dier, Winks & Eriksen is a decent midfield. Lucas is a good option in attack, but Lamela and Llorente are a bit meh.
Don’t they have anyone in their youth side that could be worth a shot upfront?
The defence and midfield isn't bad now but yep, the goals will dry up. Hopefully with a bit of a run, Llorente will get back into the groove. Its easy to forget that his minutes are minimal.
In terms of youth, there's 20 year old Kaziah Sterling, who was on the bench vs Fulham but not sure he'll end up making a significant impact long term if I'm honest.
The big talents in the attacking department are Roles (a 19 year old midfielder with a knack of getting goals and assists regardless of where he's playing or how he's playing) and Parrott (a 16 year old striker with a great scoring record) but I think neither of them are quite ready tbh. Its getting to the stage where we will likely have to have at least 1 of them on the bench at least. We'll have to see.
All their starting attackers out at the same time is a bit nuts when you consider they don't have the kind of depth that we do. With Lingard Martial and Rashford out we would be starting Lukaku, Sanchez and Mata. Which is why I find it amusing when people say that spurs have a better team than we do.
We would do better with those 4 lost.
This could be the year the lack of spending finally hurts Spurs. It does depend on how well Chelsea and United do as well so spurs may just hold fort. But it's an absurd way to run things and puts too much on the starting 11 and the manager.
I know it can be said to be 'lack of spending' from a United pov. But if you look at this from a spurs POV, we can't realistically expect to have suitable backup for Son, Kane and Alli for an extended period. I actually feel we have strength in depth when it comes to attackers with Lamela and Moura as good options, but with our 3 best goalscorers out we do of course struggle. Remove Salah, Mane and Firminho from Liverpool and what do they have?
Looks like Ibra has got some advice for Kane
https://www.goal.com/en/news/ibrahi...tenham-if-he-wants/1iblvj979mu8i1f5szp5jlq8ws
https://www.goal.com/en/news/ibrahi...tenham-if-he-wants/1iblvj979mu8i1f5szp5jlq8ws
Spurs wage bill is only about half of Utd's, they have a good first team but almost no depth at all. With the world cup and short break not surprisingly the injuries are mounting up. Now they'll be able to rotate even less and will likely get even more injuries. Levy must be cursing the schedule this year. Favours teams with big squads more than usual.
What I'm wondering is how much the total bill for using Wembley for two years and the stadium is going to be.
That win on Sunday could be huge for them. They may have enough of a buffer from United and Arsenal. While it sounds like a long time out how many league games are they actually going to miss? They only have one more league game before Son will be back.
They’ll miss six or seven games in the league, including games vs Arsenal and Chelsea.
I think the key ones for them are the next three league game vs Watford, Newcastle and Leicester, all at home. All of those three will probably be fairly obstinate opponents and Son will be missing for at least two of those. Can easily see them dropping 2 to 4 points there, but if they can navigate through those I think they’ll be fine til the end of the season.
Is this true though? I feel like it gets repeated so often that it has kind of just become fact but we've had by far the worst injury list of any of the top 6 teams so far this season, have had all of Lloris, Vorm, Trippier, Aurier, Vertonghen, Foyth, Sanchez, Rose, Dier, Dembele, Wanyama, Lamela, Sissoko, Moura, Eriksen, Dele (even before this current injury) and Kane and have lost Son for 2 different international tournaments this season.
We've been playing with 4th and 5th choice cms for the past month or so too.
I think we've done pretty well considering tbh and don't actually think there is too much wrong with our depth, especially considering the financial restrictions, some of which you allude to.
Bottled it again?
Ah well, Kane doesn't need to worry about rushing himself back. Unless he fancies a Wembley day trip.
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Harsh, they have a shit load of missing players. Thought they did well to even get to pens.Bottled it again?
You can't really laugh at them today? They played with 3 of their best players unavailable
Hardly, lost on the lottery of penalties. Thought we did great in the second half to get back into the game despite several key players injured. Just wasn't to be. When is Utd's semi by the way?Bottled it again?
Yup. I thought Chelsea would win in normal time. Spurs did alright.
Feels like they injured half their squad over a cup no one wants to win anyway.
They had a tough run as well, contrast to City getting Burton ffs
They had a tough run as well, contrast to City getting Burton ffs
Yeah that's not true. Penalties haven't been a lottery for ages since the technique has been refined and perfected by many players. Spurs' chances of winning a shootout were slim to none as they did not have 3 of their best forwards.
A professional footballer should at least get it on target.
Nah, incorrect.
Penalties isn't a lottery if one of your players fails to even hit the target...
That's the very definition of bottling.
He's a professional football player ffs, he obviously has the physical ability to be hitting the target! It's his mentality that lost it.
He's an archetypal Spurs player, and he bottled it, as archetypal Spurs players always do in that key moment.
Spurs did so well tonight to hang there all match against a better team, but the moment it went to penalties and the option to truly bottle was clearly there - you just know what they'll do.
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