Adam Johnson cannot be more left winger than he already is.
Speculation grows about replacement
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Adam Johnson cannot be more left winger than he already is.
Well if it did happen (and I 100% think it won't happen) it just goes to show the mentality of cITEH
Why any club would let the number one English keeper go, plus one of the most promising young wide men, plus cash, just to get Rooney is fecking madness. How much would cITEH improve by bringing in Rooney and losing 2 really, really good players (potential stars)
I think the answer to that is they won't
Well in which case, we should take the piss and make City an ultimatium. If they want our star player then it'll cost them big. Johnson and Hart for their first Major World Class signing.
Everyones happy...
Well in which case, we should take the piss and make City an ultimatium. If they want our star player then it'll cost them big. Johnson and Hart for their first Major World Class signing.
Everyones happy...
I really don't think we're in a position to take the piss and issue ultimatums
It shows Europe that they're serious. True World Class players won't have the excuse of "they're not big enough", if they can attract and sign Rooney then they're open to pretty much anyone. It's all about reputation.
Well we are. We don't have to let Rooney go and sign for a rival, just like we didn't allow Heinze to goto Liverpool. We'd probably accept a drop in money to allow him to go abroad instead.
Theres always going to be a big rival tax.
Yes and I guess that they'd take Vidic with them too.
Rooney and Vidic for Joe Hart and Johnson ... I think I might throw up a little now.
Yes and I guess that they'd take Vidic with them too.
Rooney and Vidic for Joe Hart and Johnson ... I think I might throw up a little now.
Yep, I clearly implied that, didn't I? Cretinous drone.
Except he plays on the right for club and country at the moment.
People need to relax a little about Johnson.
Disagree, I think he's an excellent prospect personally. We'd be raving about him if he was wearing a United shirt and rightfully so.
You do realise they wouldn't let Arsenal take Shay Given off their hands, Joe Hart, there's more chance Hart will be warming the bench for Julio Cesar or Casilias next season at City than him even being offered as a possible exchange for Rooney.
City have the bargining capacity to expect Rooney + Money for signing Patrick Vieria off their hands.
I'm sure he swapped shirts with United players in his Middleborough days, fans really didn't seem to care much back then.
he didnt last time so why would he this time!!??? dont be stupid
Aguero, best option to play or us within reason of available players and resources.
Rooney is a bigger name than City could ever've expected. There'd be Worldwide awe if they got their hands on him, and they'd do pretty much anything to make that happen. The owners I mean, Mancini probably has more sense, but whether or not he's in complete control is yet to be seen.
this thread is ridiculous.
we're not going to do any swap deals with City.
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we're not going to do any swap deals with City.
end of.
Yeah. City arent going to offer us players that they want to keep. They dont need to. They have unlimited money, so they'll offer as much as it takes.
Either we'll do business, or hopefully refuse to work with them and send Rooney to la liga or serie A, whichever he prefers. We might be offered some of City's players who are going to get reduced playing time if Rooney signs, like Adebayor and Santa Cruz because they could become unhappy in the future. But Johnson and Hart are locked down for sure.
Either we'll do business, or hopefully refuse to work with them and send Rooney to la liga or serie A, whichever he prefers. We might be offered some of City's players who are going to get reduced playing time if Rooney signs, like Adebayor and Santa Cruz because they could become unhappy in the future. But Johnson and Hart are locked down for sure.
Replacing Rooney is difficult.
We will see a change in our forward play I think. When we play 4-4-2, Rooney and Berbatov rotate, dropping off deep and they don't ever, really threaten in behind. They both like to wander. If we watch Anelka, and his goal from last night, this is not something we have really seen at United since Ruud. I love(d) Berbatov and Rooney as a partnership because they are the smartest pairing around. They are capable of some beautiful link ups and touches but replacing Rooney for someone more out and out ie Chicharito maybe this season and then if we go for an Anelka type striker. Berbatov will be the one who drops off all of the time and we will see more typical goals occuring I think. This isn't a bad thing at all. Some may argue that Rooney and Berbatov doesn't pose enough of a ruthless edge anyway.
We will see a change in our forward play I think. When we play 4-4-2, Rooney and Berbatov rotate, dropping off deep and they don't ever, really threaten in behind. They both like to wander. If we watch Anelka, and his goal from last night, this is not something we have really seen at United since Ruud. I love(d) Berbatov and Rooney as a partnership because they are the smartest pairing around. They are capable of some beautiful link ups and touches but replacing Rooney for someone more out and out ie Chicharito maybe this season and then if we go for an Anelka type striker. Berbatov will be the one who drops off all of the time and we will see more typical goals occuring I think. This isn't a bad thing at all. Some may argue that Rooney and Berbatov doesn't pose enough of a ruthless edge anyway.
doing deal with City makes me vomit....we didn't had a choice with Tevez as we never owned him....but Rooney is still under contract with us.
The same worldwide awe when they signed the likes of Anelka, Schmeichel, Foé, Weah even before the silly money arrive? The owners would be focusing on keeping Tévez on form and maintaing City's good run, Rooney is drastically out of form and they've already learnt lessons from Robiniho and Káká in this matter. They care about success more than worldwide awe.
City have a robust midfield and a striker on form, even their defence seems to have massively improved ... yet you think they'd do anything just to sign Rooney?
I'm sorry but they wouldn't exchange two players settled at the club just to get him, there are plenty of on form young strikers they can sign who they can get for cheaper worldwide and if they really wanted to devestate United, they'd sign Vidic.
Manchester City signing Wayne Rooney would be the biggest transfer story in recent history. It doesn't compare at all with Schmikes, Anelka or Tevez. It would make them a GLOBAL brand overnight.
They most definitely would exchange two settled players for a big name. Especially if he came from United. It'd increase their 'power shift in Manchester' and the overall appearance of the name Manchester City. The owners want trophies and they want them fast, so they'll do whatever they can do speed up the process, including bringing in one marquee player and shipping off two or more good players from their squad.
Darren Bent. No joke.
So do I, all the people who want us to go out and blow shitloads on the worlds top players clearly don't know much about United and what makes this club so great. Glazers or no Glazers I'd still prefer we tried to develop youngsters than go out and spend and as you said we do have a lot of talent coming through and the only way they will improve is to play games which is less likely if we bring in new faces.
Could do worse......
I seem to recall a few months ago a well respected poster on here made a thread about this point. I can't remember exactly who it was, but they suggested that by selling a few players off and allowing Giggs/Scholes/Neville/VDS to retire it would open the door for our youngsters.
If we then decided to keep the money and allow our youngsters a chance then yes it may mean that we sacrifice the chase for the title short term. But it would also allow us to watch and be part of a young group of players fighting to become new United legends.
He also mentioned that it would give our fanbase a much needed reality check and fire the Old Trafford atmosphere up. The whole club has become complacent.
I'm not sure if I agree with the thought of this as it could risk our future if the team struggle to gell and we miss out on the top 4. But it would be exciting and we'd always have a huge transfer warchest to fall back on.
Quite correct and I for one would support that.
I'd rather have a lean season while we develop our youngsters and play the right way than spend indiscriminately.
However I do believe SAF is unlikely to spend for the sake of spending. He did say that the transfer market represented no value and I feel he was right. David Villa would have been a great buy but he went to Barca..end of.
Liverpool powerless to resist Torres bid
The pressure on Roy Hodgson intensified on Wednesday night as the Liverpool manager admitted the club may be powerless to resist a bid from Manchester United for striker Fernando Torres and managing director Christian Purslow, his most powerful ally in the Anfield boardroom, departed. United are expected to pursue a marquee signing should Wayne Rooney be granted his desired move in January and Torres, along with Real Madrid duo Karim Benzema and Kaka, is thought to top Sir Alex Ferguson’s wishlist to replace the England international. Though Liverpool have not sold a player to their fiercest rivals since Ted Savage in 1938, and despite the outrage such a transfer would provoke at Anfield, Hodgson insists it would be naive to assume such a move is impossible. “I think we will have to cross that bridge when we come to it. When a great player like Rooney is looking to leave his club, United will be in a position to target a lot of players around the world. I do not think Torres will be the only striker they target and I do not think we will be the only club worried. I am not naive enough to believe there will not be any danger and I am not too naive to believe we will never lose a player like Torres. I do not believe we will lose him, we will do our best to ensure he stays and I only hope I can do everything in my power to keep him happy at the club.”
The pressure on Roy Hodgson intensified on Wednesday night as the Liverpool manager admitted the club may be powerless to resist a bid from Manchester United for striker Fernando Torres and managing director Christian Purslow, his most powerful ally in the Anfield boardroom, departed. United are expected to pursue a marquee signing should Wayne Rooney be granted his desired move in January and Torres, along with Real Madrid duo Karim Benzema and Kaka, is thought to top Sir Alex Ferguson’s wishlist to replace the England international. Though Liverpool have not sold a player to their fiercest rivals since Ted Savage in 1938, and despite the outrage such a transfer would provoke at Anfield, Hodgson insists it would be naive to assume such a move is impossible. “I think we will have to cross that bridge when we come to it. When a great player like Rooney is looking to leave his club, United will be in a position to target a lot of players around the world. I do not think Torres will be the only striker they target and I do not think we will be the only club worried. I am not naive enough to believe there will not be any danger and I am not too naive to believe we will never lose a player like Torres. I do not believe we will lose him, we will do our best to ensure he stays and I only hope I can do everything in my power to keep him happy at the club.”
Buying Torres would be madness. Can't ever see it happening.
Hes a great prospect but nothing more at the moment. Alot of work needed to get near top class.
He's an excellent player in terms of his highlights on match of the day so people tend to be a little blinkered with him. His all round game is still pretty weak imo.
bring back Ole
Who on here would do a straight swap
Rooney for Baloteli
or
Rooney for Hart (+Cash or a thrown in player)
Rooney for Baloteli
or
Rooney for Hart (+Cash or a thrown in player)
Yeah but he did flop at Spurs, the only big club he's been at... and he'd have to get used to doing a fair amount of sitting on the bench for tactical reasons
Didn't have the best of times at Spurs, but wasn't he their leading scorer when sold? Matured quite a bit, and a good finisher.
I am not saying he is a straight replacement for Rooney, but could be a good addition.
the latter for sure.
GK would be sorted for 10 years (unless hart turned out to be a twat and wanted out after 4 years).
Johnson + Hart + Cash. Would much rather that deal
Id go with that.
Usually agree with this sentiment but we can only get so far replacing world class players with potential. I'm ok with the decisions taken since Robaldo and Tevez left but failing to replace Rooney with a genuine world class talent would be negligent IMO.
There's still plenty of upcoming vacancies in the squad for the cream of our youngsters to fight over (and we have to accept that only a tiny minority of them will turn out good enough for a long-term career at the club) but our next great team needs to be built around a nucleus of genuinely world class young players. At present we haven't got enough of these, not if we don't include Rooney.
My impression is that Berbatov plays better with owen or hernandez than with rooney. From here till january we will have a chance to see whether we need a new forward or not - i think that berbatov and hernandez will be ok.
midfield will be a top priority imo
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