Sol Campbell

Until someone from the Ukraine/Poland murdered him, obviously. Because that's what they're like over there, according to Sol.
 
Yea, first he was hurr durring that racists were all over Poland and Ukraine and y'all should hide you kids and wives, then that there are not enough Afroamerican coaches in Europe ergo everybody's racist and now this bullshit.

He's fecked in his head pretty hard.
 
I think it's a pretty idiotic thing to say.

Not really. Racism exists and manifests itself in ways such as this. I don't think he's right in this case though, but his paranoia is understandable.

I think it's fair to say that if he was white he would have been more famous/popular/commended.
 
Not really. Racism exists and manifests itself in ways such as this. I don't think he's right in this case though, but his paranoia is understandable.

I think it's fair to say that if he was white he would have been more famous/popular/commended.
And would have a media career rather than just getting asked occasionally to comment on issues of race in football.
 
Not really. Racism exists and manifests itself in ways such as this. I don't think he's right in this case though, but his paranoia is understandable.

I think it's fair to say that if he was white he would have been more famous/popular/commended.

I don't think it's fair to say that at all. As a player he is widely respected and (rightfully) known as one of the best centre backs to play for Enlgand in recent years.

He had the personality of a dull tablecloth and was a defender, that's why he was not more famous or popular.
 
I don't think it's fair to say that at all. As a player he is widely respected and (rightfully) known as one of the best centre backs to play for Enlgand in recent years.

He had the personality of a dull tablecloth and was a defender, that's why he was not more famous or popular.

So you don't think prejudice exists at all? :wenger:
 
Eh? Where did I say that? My point is that being a black man is not the reason Sol Campbell was not "England captain for 10 years", as Campbell said.

You're already twisting the conversation. Re-read, get back to me.
 
I'm not twisting anything. This is a thread about Sol Campbell and his statement. If you want a debate on race and prejudice in general, start a thread in the CE.

Do you need me to break it down for you?

Just because it's the football forum not the CE doesn't mean you have a license to post incoherent waffle.
 
Who the hell is twisting anything? Sol Campbell is just moaning to the media, he was not picked to be the captain because he was black but because we had better options. I mean the England squad is majority white anyway, and there are always going to be more candidates who are white to be the captain than the black players, its common sense. If he were head and shoulders above the rest, he would have done perhaps, this isn't Italy who only had their first black player (Balotelli) in the squad in the last Euros.
 
Who the hell is twisting anything? Sol Campbell is just moaning to the media, he was not picked to be the captain because he was black but because we had better options. I mean the England squad is majority white anyway, and there are always going to be more candidates who are white to be the captain than the black players, its common sense. If he were head and shoulders above the rest, he would have done perhaps, this isn't Italy who only had their first black player (Balotelli) in the squad in the last Euros.

You've worded that a bit poorly tbh. You mean the percentage of the captain being white is higher due to there being more white players in the squad?
 
John Barnes was on ESPN, its not impossible.
It isn't impossible, no. Chris Kamara is very well known, if not entirely for the right reasons. Yorke does work for Sky, occasionally. Jason Roberts used to be on the BBC (may still be, not sure). No doubt a fair few I'm forgetting but considering the amount of personality and insight lacking white players who forge a career in the media, many of which had a football career nowhere near as successful as Campbell, I find it rather likely he would've been in higher demand if he shared their skin colour, personally.
 
It isn't impossible, no. Chris Kamara is very well known, if not entirely for the right reasons. Yorke does work for Sky, occasionally. Jason Roberts used to be on the BBC (may still be, not sure). No doubt a fair few I'm forgetting but considering the amount of personality and insight lacking white players who forge a career in the media, many of which had a football career nowhere near as successful as Campbell, I find it rather likely he would've been in higher demand if he shared their skin colour, personally.

I think he's a moany, stroppy git anyway and that's why nobody wants to deal with him. Plus, doesn't he demand silly money? Garth Crooks does pretty well for himself tbh.

I think Savage is hired because they can pay him in shampoo or something.