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Sofyan Amrabat | signs for United on loan
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Says here that Amrabat to Barca is now ruled out as they can’t afford it.
Of course - we are aware of him, after all.
I'd take him if it meant Fred and McT out, it would be a transformed midfield
Eye test at the world cup told me that he is good defensively.
Is there actually any top tier reporting this ?
I'm kinda excited about this signing. I was fully expecting us to go into the season with Casemiro / McT for the #6 role.
It's not a Paul Pogba / FdJ / Jadon Sancho kinda summer but so far I'm happy with our targets (Mount, Amrabat, Onana). Pragmatic signings, it's obvious how they'll fit into the larger plan, no real surprises or what-ifs discussions around what changes you'd need to unlock this signing.
The most obvious gap is the CF situation and if we'll go into the season with Rashford / Martial upfront. Maybe we wait until deadline day for the Harry Kane saga.
It's not a Paul Pogba / FdJ / Jadon Sancho kinda summer but so far I'm happy with our targets (Mount, Amrabat, Onana). Pragmatic signings, it's obvious how they'll fit into the larger plan, no real surprises or what-ifs discussions around what changes you'd need to unlock this signing.
The most obvious gap is the CF situation and if we'll go into the season with Rashford / Martial upfront. Maybe we wait until deadline day for the Harry Kane saga.
Won't pretend that I've seen him much for Fiorentina but he was one of the best players for me at the WC and if that is close to an accurate representation of the player he can be, then I'd be really happy with this signing.
Thought that he completely controlled the conference final against West Ham for the first 60mins…..he made Rice look very ordinary.
He was also very effective at the World Cup. Very comfortable on the ball, only concern is that when he starts to tire he starts to lose his head.
Would be a fantastic signing at the right price. We need goals though.
He was also very effective at the World Cup. Very comfortable on the ball, only concern is that when he starts to tire he starts to lose his head.
Would be a fantastic signing at the right price. We need goals though.
He does not contribute much offensively. Keeping the ball in play helps the team control games though.
Maybe a player you bring on to do a number like man mark a KBD or the big threats
Yeah he would just be there to do a job alongside Casemiro in the big games,he can then provide rotation for him in less pressure games
Only ever saw him play at the world cup, and looked good. So did Djemba Djemba in 2002. Based on what I saw and a few YouTube clips, looks like decent back up to Casimiro which we badly need as both Fred and Mctominay are not the right players there.
If we’re adding another CM it really should be a high quality passer
Funny how all the clips I’ve seen of him seem to exclusively be from the world cup. Nothing of him at Fiorentina?
Agree with this.
Can't say I've seen much of him and the Caf opinion is divided but based on the eye test, his world cup performances were good and he can keep the ball. Utd must be one of the worst top teams in any league for ball control and retention which is mainly down to the type of players in our squad.
He's not quite THAT good most of the time. I watch a lot of Fiorentina and he's a good player - not a superstar. Morrocco just had a really good system and team spirit at the WC and he bought into it. He's a really good character, lots of energy, really good defensively, strong and loves a tackle. Usually doesn't get ahead of the ball though and keeps it simple in possession.
Barca were so interested on him during winter.
While I agree he’s a good but not exceptional player , he played a huge part in the team spirit and cohesion. I think the team bought more into his character than the other way around.
Amrabat and Saiss were the two onfield leaders and are really loved in Morocco for their fighting spirit
@MadMike is likely right, he's more a cheap De Jong alternative than Casemiro's backup.
I would feel more confident in big games playing him alongside Casemiro while sending one of Bruno or Mount to the wings.
For the right price, this could be a great option to have
Agree, except he can definitely play as a backup to Casemiro when needed. He‘s more suited than McT, Fred, Mount, Bruno or Eriksen to be Casemiro‘s backup.
Had no idea he was at Utrecht with ETH 
Had no idea he was at Utrecht with ETH
Wtf? Is that true?
Yes
He gave him his debut.
Not a measure of anything these days, they're horrific with transfers at the moment and sign any old dross. Their next option is Oriol Romeu!
The guy who has beyond awful defensive stats to backup Casemiro? An Amrabat-Mount-Bruno midfield would get battered. MCT and Fred are miles better backups. They can actually defend a bit
Amrabat is the guy for one specific role - get the ball off the defense and progress it forwards either by passing or ball carrying. A bit like a quaterback role like Bruno played at Everton. Defending and scoring/assisting he is sht at. He will need a proper DM next to him. Case/Ambrat + Mount or Bruno is a good midfield. Ambrabat as single DM pivot is stupid
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The only ones available are absolute traffic cones everywhere else though. I like Amrabat (although prefer Lavia) and I've been banging the drum that we need Casemiro cover for half a year now. It would be absolute suicide to roll into another season with fecking McT as the cover man for our 30 year old workhorse DM
He is not shit at defending and a better backup than McT or Fred for Casemiro. Many teams play with a dlp rather than a dm, even as a single pivot. Defending is done as a team, not a single player.
I think Arsenal are going to be prepared to release either Nketiah or Balogun this summer and tbh, I'd take either. Not necessarily guarantees but Nketiah has improved a lot in the last couple of years and Balogun could become a very good striker. Both likely to still be relatively expensive but obviously nowhere near the Kane/Osimhen/Ramos range.
His progressive numbers are good in midfield and he plays deep so his attacking numbers will always be subdued as he isn't really a playmakers. The defensive numbers look very low but any analyst will tell you that player statistics become less reliable the further back you play and lots of defensive stats are more indicative of a team's style of play than player quality. For example, there's an argument that really good defenders shouldn't be making lots of tackles as it means they're not anticipating play well and so while low tackling numbers on fbref may be perceived as being poor, it doesn't reflect the context behind it.
Exactly, some on here have already made up their mind he is not a dm, although he plays as a dm for Marocco and highly successful I might add.
As I posted above defensive stats remove a lot of context. He was unbelievable in the world cup playing at six. He mopped up everything for Morocco and was a ball recovery machine. He wouldn't be my choice for a backup role but it's not concern around his defensive attributes.
Theoretically, we will be the dominant team in all but 6/7 league games per season. Casemiro will start in those big games. It is probably more important to have a deep midfielder who is adept at first phase build up for those games than a defensive destroyer. All we need is someone who can competently receive the ball deep in midfield, potentially evade whatever pressure is put on and move the ball centrally to our midfield creators, Mount and Bruno. Amrabat is very secure in possession and is definitely not a liability in defence. From a squad building perspective, I don't think he'd be the smart move for this position but I think you're exaggerating how poor a fit he would be for essentially a deep midfield cover role. Mount is much better off the ball than Eriksen so he'll have plenty of help in those games he doesn't play with Casemiro.
Surely you watched him play enough for us to realise he is not even a workhorse, maybe he was for Madrid, but he is clearly more than that for us.
Not sure signing Arsenal rejects is the way forward for UTD.
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