Could you at least explain why you’re giving such a ludicrously low score?
Sofyan Amrabat | signs for United on loan
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Would be a solid window for me. Improvements across the board at good ages.
Anything credible or just Stretford Paddock?
A defender? An experienced striker?
They're good players, but we'll need more than that.
I don't think we'll sell both Bailly & Maguire, so don't think there'll be room personally. I also don't think we'll get a second striker, and would rather a talented youngster like Hojlund as opposed to someone like Taremi for example.
I think this would suffice for now given the takeover nonsense, with the hope being we're in a position to bring in another player or two in January under new owners.
How do we feel about the prospect of having a bald overlord in midfield?
Easy, bang average, bang average, bang average & bang average.
Those signings if they happen will put us nowhere near winning or seriously competing for the 2 big trophies.
City sign the best defender at the WC & UTD sign someone who barely got a mention at the WC, should be the other way round if we are to close the gap.
Would be really good if we can sign Amrabat. It'll probably happen if we sell both Fred and McTominay and get decent fee for them.
I'm not sure I fully agree with what you're saying. I do agree that it'll be a few years before we're in peak position to make the high quality peak ability signings but if we are making value signings they should be for people with high upside for development. Amrabat is in his peak years at 26 and hasn't been a standout in a top five league. He had a great WC but international football is just not played at the same pace as EPL where he'll be encountering fairly sophisticated pressing in every game. Would love us to take a punt on someone like André Trinidade at Fluminense. Plays number six, is insanely press-resistant and great at the first phase build up play that we are weak in. He's young so plenty of room for improvement and no doubt has some rough edges to smooth off but just a lovely player to watch who does the simple things well.
Yeah because signing players just based on world cups is the way to go.
ten Hag is clearly building a team, I think you just want big names. We’ve tried that approach for years and it doesn’t work. Now we need to try building a bit year on year
Mount and Onana will be big upgrade to this team and our way of play. Amrabat would be meh signing for first 11 but as backup for Case he would be excellent to have.
But Hojlund as first choice striker would be underwhelming signing for that position. We need proven goalscorer, not someone who is in senior football only 2 years. And lets be honest, his stats are average. 16 goals in 42 games last season.
He is maybe potential and maybe he will be top player in future but with striker position we must avoid any gamble. Don't forget that next season there will be 7 strong teams fighting for 4 CL spots. Going into season with striker who can't stay fit (Tony) and young kid would be massive massive gamble. I would rather have cheap, old and average gk and Kane than Onana and Hojlund for example.
It's not as if United don't have years to play after the upcoming season. The team has to be built gradually over time, not just 2 seasons. United must go about it the right way and if that means missing out on a Kane this year and only getting a GK like Onana and possible Hojlund, so be it. Especially if United can relieve themselves of a Telles, Bailly, Henderson, etc. that would be great. Then Fred will leave after next season.
Amrabat would be a very good signing. He's better than McTominay and would provide the quality depth that is necessary.
I really like Amrabat, he’s the kind of profile of player that we should be going for. I think he’d become somewhat of a fan’s favourite.
If you want to play a high press, you need a defensive midfielder with the physical attributes and reading of the game to prevent the out ball. Amrabat is tenacious and pretty press resistant because of his strength and speed, his quick feet and his speed of thought. I’d be disappointed to see him go to a rival but I’d be very surprised if Liverpool weren’t interested given his profile and reported fee
If you want to play a high press, you need a defensive midfielder with the physical attributes and reading of the game to prevent the out ball. Amrabat is tenacious and pretty press resistant because of his strength and speed, his quick feet and his speed of thought. I’d be disappointed to see him go to a rival but I’d be very surprised if Liverpool weren’t interested given his profile and reported fee
It’s quite apparent that our name is being pulled in to draw interest or a bid elsewhere. He’ll probably end up Brighton or spurs, that’s his level.
Skhiri available on a free and we're looking into this guy...
We simply have to get ownership sorted by then
We aren’t signing Kane/Osimhen,therefore who is your choice outside of them two
Yeah I just don't see any gettable strikers who you could consider 'Guaranteed' at the minute. There's a real dearth of quality about.
We're either gambling on up and coming talent or gambling on an older striker making the step up.
Neither are easy fixes.
Well maybe we should have listened to Solskjaer when he offered us Haaland at Molde. Maybe then we wouldn't be having to buy a potential striker after being priced out for Kane & Osimhen as well
We are NOT getting Harry Kane. Even if he kicked up a fuss. Not happening unless he is hell bent on us and waits a year. I would rather have Onana (don't forget distribution from this position is imperative post DDG so cheap, old and average might be a bit of a drop off) who I don't think we are going to get because $$$ and Hojlund whom again is someone I don't think we will get due to.... guess what? $$$.
We simply have to get a Striker
If ETH is the man for the future then why not buy a striker who is 5/10 current ability and 8/10 potential? We already have Rashford heading into his prime whose just scored 30 goals.
I feel like after a Ronaldo left what Rashford did hasn’t received as much credit as it deserves. If a big signing came in and scored 30 goals we’d be saying that’s what you get when you spend well. Well with Rashford it’s even better.. that’s what you get when potential finally gets a great coach.
Personally, I think Osimhen might just come and be a surprise deal. But will be a late deal, will require us selling a few players, and him pushing for the move (possible as his a United fan). Can see both Hujland and Osimhen coming if we sell Sancho.
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You don't think Rashford + Martial are good enough to go for another season at CF?
Amrabat was quite comfortably the best midfielder on the pitch against a better team in West Ham while Rice went for close to a 100 mil. You cannot sign 6 starting quality players in the midfield and for the quality and experience he has would add a lot if we can get rid of Fred and Mctominay. If we are trying to do this deal then it does signal a much better direction to our recruitment than recent years and I for one would be delighted.
Last season would strongly suggest that they are not. We scored 30 goals less than Arsenal and even 12 less than 8th place Spurs. We were carried to 3rd place by our defence. We can’t rely on that again.
Martial isn’t good enough to do anything and shouldn’t even come up in conversation given how little he manages to actually get on the pitch.
Solid cheaper option if we're outpriced for a Lavia
He looks older than he is whilst Frenkie De Jong looks younger than he is.
Buy.
Buy.
Hell no
Good enough backup for uncle Case.
16 goal in 2551 mins last season, equivalent to around 28 games time, or avg 0.57 goals per 90 mins. How many 20 years old had better stats out there?
What purpose would that make?
I'm not really sure, is that something Ajax fans let us know before ETH signed.I never complained about the transfer - just highlighted the habit he has.
It’s something that Ajax fans let us know before Ten Hag signed and I was shocked that Amrabat was actually a player he managed at Utretcht.
I love Ten Hag & support him to do what he wants - including Mount, someone I didn’t rate before and now excited to see how he manages.
I just wonder what the future is going to be like - he isn’t going to have 8 Mason mounts capable to buy every transfer window & who knows, maybe he spends time in the PL long enough to decide he only ever buys PL proven players that prove it in front of his face.
Maybe some fans will or may not like that in the future
Depends what your objective is when defining good enough. If we want another top 4 challenge then sure. If we want to actually start closing the gap to City we need to bin off Martial and buy a significantly better forward
Top 4 isn't even a cert with just those two considering other teams are strengthening and one injury to rashford leaves us with martial who is a shadow of his former self,we need bodies upfront even if it's a promising youngster in hojlund for instance.In Regards to Amrabat aswell He looks a good high energy player and would fit in well imo but He's around the 20-30 million mark and no doubt once we come calling that will rise to 40-50.
Ah, thanks, wasnt 100 percent sure from 4 of your posts. That settles it.
Amrabat would be an excellent buy. Very underrated player. Regarding all the moaning about not going in for Kane has anyone thought about the fact that maybe he doesn't want to come to United? What then? Same for Osimhen. And even if we could go bid for them Napoli and Tottenham would bleed us dry. And then you are left with what? Who to go for? With very few good strikers available around Hojlund would be a reasonable bet with existing squad and maybe get another veteran striker to complement Martial and Hojlund.
100% agree.
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