Sofyan Amrabat | 2023/24 Performances

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I feel he needs to have a run of games to raise his level. Did well today but I think he can be even better.
 
I havent seen all of the 2nd half so im not going to insist this was the case in the 2nd, but this was my impression as well. In the first half he was in the right place to pickup a couple of loose balls, but actually didnt win any tackles or interceptions. I think one of the loose balls he picked up was like a long interception so its semantics on that one. He was caught on the ball and tackled and another time he played a suicide sideways pass straight into a Chelsea counter. He did play at least 1 or 2 good passes forward into players into good positions so, other than being simple with the ball and picking up a couple of loose balls he did have those couple of good forward passes to give some positives to his half. But it was a bad half.

2nd half I havent seen enough of so I'm just looking at the data and I can see he made 3 tackles in that half, which is 2nd only to Reguilon who was only on for 45 mins and made 4. Caicedo made 6 with more passes and touches. Amrabat had 2 dribbles

I'll watch it later but yeah it looked like he went from poor in the first half - with a couple of better moments, to a better more solid 2nd half
What the data doesn't tell you though is that he was fecking awful...
 
Good game today. Had to do the made 1 man mid. But had a perfect side to excel against.
 
Gave the ball away once it twice at the start but was that his best performance for us, he seemed to be closing down everywhere
 
He's not good enough for a £10m loan or £30m signing but he is still good enough to start for us in our best eleven.

We'll play our best football this season if we get Amrabat, Mainoo and/or Eriksen in midfield playing together. Even moreso if Martinez gets back to full fitness.

He closes passing lanes which none of our other midfielders ever do, and he brings a more robust physicality that Casemiro and McT just dont have.
 
That’s the Amrabat that I was happy we signed back on Sept 1st. Really good, particularly in the second half.

But the worry remains for me, that I don’t really see how the system we play (the #6-#10-#10) can work long term. Whoever plays the #6 will be exposed. I hope in time we switch to a double pivot in CM.
 
He started off terribly and I thought I’d made my mind up on him but he was excellent in that second half.
That pass back could have gone a lot worse only it was mudryk that was played in
 
What the data doesn't tell you though is that he was fecking awful...
Not sure what game you were watching. Easily his best performance. A real presence second half particularly. Even when he wasn't winning clean ball, he was right on his man, forced errors, disrupted and his passing was much more forceful and crisp. Big contributer out there tonight.
 
Finally saw a player that I wanted here in his otherwise disappointing spell for us.
 
What the data doesn't tell you though is that he was fecking awful...

You thought so? I can see why you would have that opinion from the first half. He reminded me a bit of Fred in that he made some silly mistakes which could be very costly, but he also made a couple of fairly good passes so he wasnt complete and utter trash.

2nd half again I havent seen it properly. When I do I'll give an overall rating
 
Same, although this could be said of all the players.

I think on an individual level, most played quite decently, even good. The issue is that this was such a bad Chelsea side that if they had a bit more composure, they could have scored 4-5 or even more past us. So many transitions and spaces to exploit. This one man midfield thing is not it.
I agree. I actually am still suprised, that Poch didn't manage to find a way to exploit the space we opened up with our press today. Many forward players were engaged and quite high, a ball in behind and things could have been rough. As they were on a couple of occasions. But to be perfectly honest - if that press thing is what ETH is going for, so be it. I am happy to see 5:3 or 3:2 wins all the time, at least this makes sure theres entertainment.

It must be pointed out that a) Dalot had a pretty fine day today and b) that Dalot was actually tucking into midfield today. A lot. Obviously it helps to have matched numbers in this area of the pitch.

I havent seen all of the 2nd half so im not going to insist this was the case in the 2nd, but this was my impression as well. In the first half he was in the right place to pickup a couple of loose balls, but actually didnt win any tackles or interceptions. I think one of the loose balls he picked up was like a long interception so its semantics on that one. He was caught on the ball and tackled and another time he played a suicide sideways pass straight into a Chelsea counter. He did play at least 1 or 2 good passes forward into players into good positions so, other than being simple with the ball and picking up a couple of loose balls he did have those couple of good forward passes to give some positives to his half. But it was a bad half.

2nd half I havent seen enough of so I'm just looking at the data and I can see he made 3 tackles in that half, which is 2nd only to Reguilon who was only on for 45 mins and made 4. Caicedo made 6 with more passes and touches. Amrabat had 2 dribbles

I'll watch it later but yeah it looked like he went from poor in the first half - with a couple of better moments, to a better more solid 2nd half
Yeah same here. Chelsea became weaker (I think) in the 2nd half so he had a few more moments to win balls and passing forward was good - but also aided by the fact that todays setup helped him as actually most players joined the press so he had many options in front of himself. In 1st half I was actually wondering how this player was able to rack up those passing stats on fbref because it looked so average to bad.
 
He done the dirty work right. If he had someone with better passing ability beside him I believe he be a success - Maybe eriksen or even mainoo who both take the ball on the half turn.
 
Mainoo is a talented kid. I don’t think we’ll ruin him by giving him some licence to get forward from time to time. For his development that would be helpful. I agree he is best suited to the no6 area but he looks comfortable moving forward. He has some qualities in common with FDJ - he’s a natural all-round footballer.

It will be interesting if Amrabat goes on a solid run of form. We’ll see then if they are really competing for one spot or whether EtH tries getting them both in.
I agree, Mainoo and Amrabat together in midfield is something we'll see soon enough. Mainoo is a natural #6/#8 type of player who should be encouraged to get forward. But that doesn't mean he can't come deeper and form a two with Amrabat when building the play.
 
A lot of improvement from Amrabat today. Good defensively. But many of his passes are backward passes for some reason - Mainoo is different in this regard. It would be very interesting to watch how a pair of Amrabat and Mainoo would work together.
 
I agree. I actually am still suprised, that Poch didn't manage to find a way to exploit the space we opened up with our press today. Many forward players were engaged and quite high, a ball in behind and things could have been rough. As they were on a couple of occasions. But to be perfectly honest - if that press thing is what ETH is going for, so be it. I am happy to see 5:3 or 3:2 wins all the time, at least this makes sure theres entertainment.

It must be pointed out that a) Dalot had a pretty fine day today and b) that Dalot was actually tucking into midfield today. A lot. Obviously it helps to have matched numbers in this area of the pitch.


Yeah same here. Chelsea became weaker (I think) in the 2nd half so he had a few more moments to win balls and passing forward was good - but also aided by the fact that todays setup helped him as actually most players joined the press so he had many options in front of himself. In 1st half I was actually wondering how this player was able to rack up those passing stats on fbref because it looked so average to bad.

I really want to believe but not sure I share your optimism as I don't think ETH has shown the tactical nous to really implement this on his own terms. Most of the times we can press high, the opposition are poor teams with not much functional tactical shape other than sitting back or just letting the game flow by. Also this lung bursting box to box style of play is just not sustainable; just look at last season watching Martinez, Casemiro etc playing the game of their lives every match with a siege mentality holding down the forte. It seems McTominay is the answer for ETH in midfield and the result is doomed for failure imo. Of course I'm happy to be proven massively wrong. I really want to see a midfield combo of Mainoo/Casemiro/Amrabat behind Bruno or even Mount sometime but I don't think that's ever going to happen unless our front three start firing on all cylinders; the reliance on McTominay is a poisoned chalice.
 
I saw him make a lot of tackles tonight where I thought he was out of postioin. But it worked. So because of that he gets my man of the match. But on another night where he is 2 seconds late, he is just out of position. He got away with it tonight, but I don't think he was making the rignt decisions.
 
This is the world cup version of Amrabat. He was a beast yesterday. Lost the ball once in the first half but otherwise he bossed it. Looked so mature on the ball and off the ball as well in freeing himself up for a pass. How many ball recoveries? 11? Well played. Really exceeded expectations. Almost everyone was critical of the midfield partnership before the match.
 
He was indeed, great. I do think Chelsea's midfield played a game that suits him completely though and will wait to see how he manages against a better set up team before deciding that he shouldn't be in Tuscany this year after all.
 
The impatience of ouf fans NEVER ceases to amaze me. This lad arrrived super late in our transfer window, no pree season, carrying injury. To a totally new league played at a consistent pace he has never encountered. Yet miraculously folks expect him to be operating at like a Declan Rice. Yet the likes of Rodri himself in the best damn team in the country STILL took over 6 months to fully settle and impact this league.

Heck even at Pool we see the likes of Endo struggling to be in. Above all Caicedo, used to the league, lack of pre season and arrived with injury at Chelsea and is looking almost like a dud yet we all know he isn't. For self same reasons. Give the lad a chance.
 


Was definitely a level up in performance from Amrabat last night.

He had one of the toughest jobs in football yesterday: Playing as the one proper centre midfielder when we committed to the press.

At times Chelsea did get through but if you are home alone, as Amrabat was, you can't expect much different. We should have taken our chances, demoralised them and took sting outta the match.

Happier with him. Hopefully he kicks on from here.
 
People really think we were great, instead of Chelsea actually being crap.

He did have a very good game though. But he also looked good in a World Cup which was probably the level of the game we witnessed last night. Not too dissimilar to a EPL2 game.
 
Not sure what game you were watching. Easily his best performance. A real presence second half particularly. Even when he wasn't winning clean ball, he was right on his man, forced errors, disrupted and his passing was much more forceful and crisp. Big contributer out there tonight.
Read the post. Not amrabat, the poster was using Caicedo’s stats to say he was better, but Caicedo was awful and dominated by our midfield.
 
You thought so? I can see why you would have that opinion from the first half. He reminded me a bit of Fred in that he made some silly mistakes which could be very costly, but he also made a couple of fairly good passes so he wasnt complete and utter trash.

2nd half again I havent seen it properly. When I do I'll give an overall rating
Caicado that is not Amrabat for clarity! Amrabat was great, his best performance in a Utd shirt.
 
He played well, but this won’t be the norm for him.
 
Was very good last night, has to be said.
 
Much better but Chelsea gave him the freedom of the pitch. I don't think we learned much, he is a tidy player when given time and space on the ball as we saw at Fiorentina.
This is where I'm at. Such a hard game to gauge our team by. Chelsea were so appallingly bad that I'm reluctant to use them for a measure of anything.

Much needed win and the joy within the team plus the boost this game will give is more than welcomed, but going to have to see how we look against a competent, non-fodder team to make an assessment.

If he does the same in the upcoming games it'll be fair to say a new chapter has begun.
 
Decent performance. One really bad giveaway in the first half that put us in real trouble but otherwise did well
 
He played well, but this won’t be the norm for him.
Why won't it be the norm? All he needs is regular game time. Can't bench someone 5 games straight and expect instant performance. Game speed is not training speed.
 
Not sure what game you were watching. Easily his best performance. A real presence second half particularly. Even when he wasn't winning clean ball, he was right on his man, forced errors, disrupted and his passing was much more forceful and crisp. Big contributer out there tonight.

I think he meant Caicedo was awful.
 
Good performance last night , he was saying in his post match interview he has been held back by his lack of a pre season and that explains his slow start here .

Will be interesting to see if he gets a run of games now. Still needs to show a lot more consistently to have a chance of been here past his loan term. Everyone can put in a decent shift now and again , that should not be good enough here.
 
His best work last night was defensively, interceptions snuffing out counters, but even with that Chelsea had some counters that should have resulted in a goal had they more competent finishers.

Looked much better in the second half, but you still notice his lack of pace at times.
 
He was great - obviously that terrible first half pass aside - he was all over their midfield.

I thought it was a bit weird that people have been so quick to write him off as a dud. He's made I think 5 (!) starts in Centre Midfield this season and has not really had a run of games at all - Plus he's coming to a new country/league and like most players would obviously need a bit of time to settle. He also (fairly) made the point post-match that he didn't had a proper pre-season

In the vain of not writing him off based on not much evidence - I won't be judging him as a success based on yesterday, but I do think it's fair to say he's deserves a bit more patience.
 
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