So, who had the best summer transfer window?

CnutOfAllCnuts said:
As for our competitors in the Premiership;

Arsenal - shocking summer, and are considerable weakened.

Their key signings:

Arteta - 7/10
Benayoun - 5/10
Chamberlain - feck knows
Gervinho - 6/10
Jenkinson - 4/10
Mertesacker - 7/10
Park - feck knows
Santos - feck knows

Chelsea - a bit like United, building from a very strong basis and with a view to replace older players

Key signings:

Lukaku - feck knows
Mata - 9/10
Meireles - 6/10
Romeu - feck knows

City - like a kid in a sweatshop, but to be fair some potential briliant signings

Key signings:

Aguero - 9/10
Clichy - 7/10
Nasri - 8/10
Savic - feck knows
Hargreaves - 0/10 or 6/10

Liverpool - The Harry Redknapp of football clubs. Basically got a whole new squad compared to 1 year ago

Key signings:

Adam - 6/10
Bellamy - 5/10
Coates - feck knows
Doni - 4/10
Downing - 7/10
Enrique - 7/10
Henderson - 5/10

Spurs - Failed to strengthen, but managed to keep Modric - against the odds

Key signings:

Adebayor - 7/10
Ceballos - feck knows
Falque - feck knows
Friedel - 6/10
Parker - 7/10

United - Like Chelsea, but failed to strengthen in midfield through buying

Key signings:

de Gea - 6/10
Jones - 8/10
Young - 8/10
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Some of these are way off.

And as for all the 'feck knows' - you only have to have a cursory knowledge of football to know how highly rated the likes of Oxley-Chamberlain and Lukaku are.

Mertesacker is never a 7/10 player in the PL - he was barely that in the Bundesliga - and Bellamy is significantly better than a 5/10. I think he could emerge as one of the success stories of this window - if he can play like he did for City the season before last he can do some serious damage in that team.
 
BaldwinLegend said:
Some of these are way off.

And as for all the 'feck knows' - you only have to have a cursory knowledge of football to know how highly rated the likes of Oxley-Chamberlain and Lukaku are.

Mertesacker is never a 7/10 player in the PL - he was barely that in the Bundesliga - and Bellamy is significantly better than a 5/10. I think he could emerge as one of the success stories of this window - if he can play like he did for City the season before last he can do some serious damage in that team.
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Don't you mean to that team?

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BaldwinLegend said:
Some of these are way off.

And as for all the 'feck knows' - you only have to have a cursory knowledge of football to know how highly rated the likes of Oxley-Chamberlain and Lukaku are.

Mertesacker is never a 7/10 player in the PL - he was barely that in the Bundesliga - and Bellamy is significantly better than a 5/10. I think he could emerge as one of the success stories of this window - if he can play like he did for City the season before last he can do some serious damage in that team.
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I can't rate players I've never or hardly seen play, e.g. Chamberlain and Lukaku. How highly or not others rate them is irrelevant.
 
I sort of agree with Cnut's stance here. We've all seen players who come to the PL with stellar reputations and turn out to be absolute shite. Nothing wrong with reserving judgement until after you've watched them a few times.

I've only seen Chamberlain twice, both against United, and I think he'll turn out to be a cracking player. Never watched Lukaku though, so don't have any strong opinion on whether or not he's a good signing.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I've only seen Chamberlain twice, both against United
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Same.

The first time doesn't count, as I was shitfaced, so don't remember anything apart from Owen scoring the winner (or the equaliser...?).

The second time, was a cameo apperance in a game long lost for Arsenal, can't judge on that either.
 
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
Eh?

How can anyone judge footballers they haven't seen play?
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My post was a reaction to you dismissing everyone else's opinion as 'irrelevant'.

In those two cases there's a strong enough body of opinion to know that Arsenal and Chelsea have bought two of the most promising youngsters around. In a debate about the success of club's transfer policies that's surely worth considering as it suggests they've done well to get them at the very least.
 
BaldwinLegend said:
And yet you feel confident enough about Per Mertesacker's potential in the PL to give him a 7 and David De Gea a 6?
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From what I've seen, yes.

But by all means, it's hardly stuff of science or something I take very serious myself.
 
CnutOfAllCnuts said:
Same.

The first time doesn't count, as I was shitfaced, so don't remember anything apart from Owen scoring the winner (or the equaliser...?).

The second time, was a cameo apperance in a game long lost for Arsenal, can't judge on that either.
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The second time he showed a lot more bottle and willingness to get on the ball than the rest of the useless shower of cnuts combined (apart from Ramsey, anyway) Very early days but I think he's gonna be great
 
BaldwinLegend said:
My post was a reaction to you dismissing everyone else's opinion as 'irrelevant'.

In those two cases there's a strong enough body of opinion to know that Arsenal and Chelsea have bought two of the most promising youngsters around. In a debate about the success of club's transfer policies that's surely worth considering as it suggests they've done well to get them at the very least.
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How anyone else rates players is irrelevant in terms of my judgement of players.

If Sir Alex told me that Bellion was a fecking superb player, then that wouldn't change my opinion on Bellion.

Feel free to judge players the way you like.
 
BaldwinLegend said:
So as things stand, you think Per Mertesacker will be a better Premiership player than De Gea?
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Over the next year or two, I do.

As long as he plays, of course. Not convinced he will necessarily edge Koscelny or whathisname out of the team.
 
WireRed said:
Steady on there, we got Young for £15m, you got Downing for £20m. For my money, those values are the wrong way around, Young is worth more than Downing who is never in a million years a £20m player, the absolute highest I'd have expected someone to go for Downing is £13-15m. That's not to say he's not going to do well for Liverpool though because I think he will but you've sure payed a premium to get him.
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We didn't. Hope this helps.
 
People being overly harsh on Arsenal. They done well, considering the time that they entered the transfer window. None of the players that they signed are bad, in fact I reckon Arteta and Mertesacker will be very good for them.

Malaga have also been pretty impressive in the transfer window.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
As usual, you're over-rating City's players and under-rating ours.

I think Phil Jones could well end up the best signing of this summer. Might take another few years for it to sink in just how good he is but he looks like a really special talent.

I also think Ashley Young has been more influential than Aguero and Nasri so far this season.
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How the hell do you work that out?

I have rated our new players very fairly.

Jones and De Gea look like great prospects.

Young is going to be one the best performers in the league imo. He is pure class and I have always thought it.

That said, Aguero and Nasri are two unbelievable signings and any remotely unbiased football would not argue that that is a hell of an impressive addition to the City squad. That and keeping Tevez.
 
Koscielny is a decent defender but his weaknesses are being horribly exposed at the moment.
 
unitedbhoy said:
Are you completely in denial over the inflated prices you's forked out for all 3 of your major signings in the past 9 months or do you know something that everyone else doesn't?
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Not in denial at all. We certainly overpaid for Carroll. If you're going to discuss it, use the correct figures. Don't think you got Young for £15m either.

Kraftwerker said:
M'n'M takes his transfer fees from some Liverpool fansite called LFCHistory.

Hence the wildly deflated (wrong) figures.
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Whereas of course the Cafe is the place for the correct fees :wenger:
 
M'n'M said:
Not in denial at all. We certainly overpaid for Carroll. If you're going to discuss it, use the correct figures. Don't think you got Young for £15m either.

Whereas of course the Cafe is the place for the correct fees :wenger:
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You've still not come up with a credible source for where you got your own oh so correct figures from, so care to enlighten us before you call bullshit on every transfer fee bandied about? Unless of course, it is that fansite mentioned which would just be a joke to be honest in terms of how matter of factly you're speaking about these things.
 
M'n'M said:
Not in denial at all. We certainly overpaid for Carroll. If you're going to discuss it, use the correct figures. Don't think you got Young for £15m either.

Whereas of course the Cafe is the place for the correct fees :wenger:
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You did just overpay for Carroll, you got anally raped by Newcastle
 
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