What if we end up being more successful under Moyes than we were under Fergie? That would be weird.
So what would be success for Moyes next season?
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Charity shield doesn't count.
If I was his Chairman and this was FM I'd give him a bit of money to make this squad his own.
£70m for Transfers and I'd want him to put in a good challenge for the League, Semi's for FA Cup.
Europe is the interesting one. I'd be happy if he got us to the Quarters. He'll have a bit of learning to do in Europe but hopefully the team behind him will help with that.
£70m for Transfers and I'd want him to put in a good challenge for the League, Semi's for FA Cup.
Europe is the interesting one. I'd be happy if he got us to the Quarters. He'll have a bit of learning to do in Europe but hopefully the team behind him will help with that.
Treble or GTFO.
Moyes would get no credit.
It would be because Fergie is pulling the strings from behind the scenes.
I reckon he'll have a lot and will probably move some players too. It's going to be a very interesting summer.
Yeah, he might just go and win the CL three times in a row from next season.
Sir Alex has something like 17 touchline bans. Lets see if he's ambitious enough to top that.
Play all the players in their proper positions and buy a CM?
Okay, on a serious note, challenge for the title and knockout stages in the CL and I will be happy. Anything other than that is a bonus, really.
Okay, on a serious note, challenge for the title and knockout stages in the CL and I will be happy. Anything other than that is a bonus, really.
I think we will.
Barcelona will decline. German football isn't as good as the Madrid-Barcelona tandem of the last few years. Chelsea need to regroup. City aren't that good. Arsenal and Spurs are practically mid-table.
Moyes will win the Champions League within 5 years, and we'll all say "Fergie deserved that trophy." Bullshitpredictionoftheday
Challenge for the league. Doesn't have to win it, just continue the tradition that it is usually us and someone else and he probably has leeway to lose it by a pretty decent number of point in his first season. Second I think he has to win something, anything just to get that monkey off his back. Even if it's just the league cup or the charity shield otherwise it's going to continue on next season and the pressure will build of him not winning anything. Finally getting out of the group stages in the CL. This is probably his biggest drawback, his inexperience in Europe. If he gets past the group stages even if it's an easy group then it's one less stick to beat him with. All of that should be doable with the squad we've got.
If we don't finish within 2 points of the winners, it will have been our worst season since 2006 
If we don't finish within 2 points of the winners, it will have been our worst season since 2006
1 point. We finished 1 point behind Chelsea in 2010 and lost out on goal difference last year. 2 points behind the winner would still be the worst season since 2006.
Same thing that defines success every season, Pinky, trying to take over the world.
Starting with winning the league.
Starting with winning the league.
1 point? 1 point!
I was sure it was 2. It was 1? Of course it was 1!
Moyes has no chance realistically of turning around these "idiots". Win the title or the worst season since 2006.
Win the league. If it was Mourinho coming in, then the idea of success would be to win the league. Surely the people who are happy with Moyes rate him as a manager, so they must surely think that winning the league is the only thing that can be considered a success as well?
Finish above Liverpool of course.
I'd be devastated with 6th place. Call me spoilt.
I'll be fuming if that's the case.
After all Ferguson has done for the club, I hope Moyes has a little more respect for him than that.
Ah but Fergie was the only reason they hadn't won the league for so long, to finish above them next season is a guaranteed title!
Success would be the League or Champions League. That is the standard to which Fergie has made us hold ourselves to. Of course that doesn't mean if we don;t achieve that it will be a failure. There is Wenger Purgatory as I like to call it. Top 3 with decent cup runs.
We haven't done very well in the cups TBH and the last thing I would want is one of those mediocre scenarios where failure elsewhere is made up for with a cup, let alone the Mickey Mouse one.
Title challenge, i.e. win or within 10 points of the leader max and get out of the group stages in the CL. That would be performing to expectation.
Less than that and there will be reasons to worry.
Success would be winning either.
Playing a good brand of football, top 2 in the premier league, getting out of the group stages in europe. Will be another decade before we win another european cup.
We're only going to win one European Cup a decade from now on? Damn. Who's got the rope?
I guess the obvious is finishing top 4 and getting out of the group stages of UCL. Chelsea with Mourinho will be much stronger and I'd assume they'll bring in a few signings as well. Who knows what City will do but I'd imagine it will involve spending a lot of money. I'd be content with a top 3 finish and decent cup runs.
He needs to win either the Premiership title or the Champions League for it to be a successful season IMO.
He has been given the keys to a team that has won the Prem by double digit points. Of course, we will also likely be strengthening our team in the summer (central midfielder please!). If we can keep Rooney too then we will be even stronger than last season.
Oh, and of course we must play some exciting attacking football.
He has been given the keys to a team that has won the Prem by double digit points. Of course, we will also likely be strengthening our team in the summer (central midfielder please!). If we can keep Rooney too then we will be even stronger than last season.
Oh, and of course we must play some exciting attacking football.
Success is winning the league.
The bare minimum or rather an acceptable season should be competing for the league and finishing in the top 3.
The bare minimum or rather an acceptable season should be competing for the league and finishing in the top 3.
You naive soul. His corruption doesn't immediately clear up with his departure. The referees are still in his pocket, just like the entire FA and that evil influence doesn't go away. His diabolical forces will conspire to keep Liverpool down no matter what.
Agreed. Although winning the FA Cup would compensate for falling say 15 points behind the title winner.
The Treble. Anything less is not acceptable.
PS. Add to to league cup
PS. Add to to league cup
Winning the title on goal difference
Haha lawlzies, lol Brwned.
Community Shield will help
well....success is winning the league or champions league...doesn't mean that failing to do so will get him fired or is something that in uncomprehendable, or that that's something that we should even expect the first season, but yeah that's pretty much the only "success" that can be spoken of, although I guess an FA Cup wouldn't hurt either.
I am however sure about the quality of our squad and ability and firepower to win, they just have to be guided the right way, it's not like Moyes is inheriting a weak squad by any means.
I am however sure about the quality of our squad and ability and firepower to win, they just have to be guided the right way, it's not like Moyes is inheriting a weak squad by any means.
not really. Fergie has set up a fantastic foundation team and club-wise....
The league would be success.
Top 2 (or top 3 if Mourinho joins Chelsea) will be nice as well as a decent run in the UCL. An FA Cup win would also take the pressure off him and bring back a cup that's eluded us for a while.
I think all this is feasible and could have easily happened had SAF not retired.
I think all this is feasible and could have easily happened had SAF not retired.
Like every season; compete for the title and a good run in the champions league.
You don't think it would be weird if Moyes achieved a better record than Fergie in say the next 26 years, assuming he would be good enough to even be here that long?