So what would be success for Moyes next season?

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Huge act to follow and he isn't exactly the most popular candidate.

Considering Chelsea and City are likely to spend and rebuild again, even SAF might not have delivered the title next season. So we can't hold him to that standard.

As for Europe, it will be his first season in the UCL.

Would you be simply happy with a title challenge and a knockout round appearance or will the voices of descent appear after the first defeat?
 
Top 4 and get out of the CL group stage is the most that can be expected, anything else would be a bonus.
 
keeping hold of all of our players because no one will want to play for a manager with no champions league experience
whoosh
 
I'd be happy with a top 3 finish, given that Chelsea and City will be strengthening. I also hope we make it to the knockout rounds (even Round of 16, as we did this year). A decent cup run in the LC or FA Cup would be nice. In any case, I'd be happy with a strong showing even if we ended up trophyless.
 
Success? Winning the title or the Champions League. That's what constitutes success for Manchester United.

The expectation? Title challenge and knockout rounds in the CL. Well, that's my expectation at least. I'll be okay with that.
 
One of the domestic Cups would be great.

Make it to the knock-out stage of the CL.

Top 3 finish in the league.
 
Winning the title you dweebs. Anything else would be failure. Different manager same mentality as far as I'm concerned.
 
Provided there's no radical change in personnel, I don't see why we can't be optimistic about challenging on all four fronts. Maybe realistically our expectations should be more guarded, but one trophy would be great. He's not a complete idiot.

Nonetheless, we will go out and aim to win the league for sure. That has to be the number one effort, to try and retain the title. We will come close, too.
 
:nervous: just because we have a new manager doesn't mean the clubs goals should change...one person is not bigger than the club
 
A success would be winning the league.

The expectation will be to be "up there".
 
If he survives the multiple assassination attempts from Barbara next season, that has to be considered a success.
 
Siorac said:
Success? Winning the title or the Champions League. That's what constitutes success for Manchester United.

The expectation? Title challenge and knockout rounds in the CL. Well, that's my expectation at least. I'll be okay with that.
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I agree with what Siorac said.
 
Winning the league and putting up a good show in Europe would be a success. Anything less would have been a failure by this clubs standards.
Hoping for a top 4 finish wouldn't be a failure it would be a disaster of a season, if Manchester United finish 4th next season then serious questions need to be asked.
 
"Success" for any United manager mean lifting the English prem trophy -- all else is gravy. This is as true for Fergie as it would be if Fred the Red were at the helm.
 
I think we've got the best team in the league and we're favourites for the title. Even if we weren't you can be sure every one of those players would say that not winning the title is seen as a failure. After a few years of no success that expectation will die down but every one of these players are title winners. Quite a few of them for the first time this year. Not a chance they'll settle for finishing top 3. The weight of expectation is on them more than Moyes, in my view. They'll want to prove themselves even more.

People seem to be talking about Chelsea "re-building" every season now as if it's going to be some huge occasion. They're just going to add a couple of players like everyone else.
 
Winning the league. If he's manager of Man United with this current team which is a strong one then that's what should be expected of him. Chelsea and City will get stronger so I expect it will be a tougher title to win than this season, but that should still be the goal and there's no reason it wouldn't be. If we don't and have made a good challenge then I won't be completely devastated, however we should still be right up there with this side.
 
Mainoldo said:
Winning the title you dweebs. Anything else would be failure. Different manager same mentality as far as I'm concerned.
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Finally someone with sense.
Why are we lowering our standards here? Moyes has to elevate his. He has decided to become the manager of an elite club. He (and we) can't be happy scrapping with Arsenal and Tottenham for 4th now ffs.
He needs to win.
 
We should expect this team to challenge for the title and the CL.

It's not like Moyes has to rebuild the side. He's got everything at his disposal to win trophies. If he doesn't, then it should be considered a failure.
 
Chabon said:
Exactly what kind of group are you expecting us to get next season, you mentalist.
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What are you talking about? I said get out of the group as in qualify for the knockout stages, I don't see what is so mental about that considering he has zero experience.
 
For me I'd be targeting one of the big too, but I'd be satisfied with a top 3 league and the Cl 1/4's.
 
The sooner he hopefully wins his first trophy the better. Will relieve some pressure from the "never won a trophy" detractors.
 
shaggy said:
The sooner he hopefully wins his first trophy the better. Will relieve some pressure from the "never won a trophy" detractors.
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He can win the first in his first official game.
 
Freak said:
This. It will be a bedding in period for him and we shouldn't expect trophies yet. If they come it will be a bonus.
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If that was the perception then they shouldn't have appointed him. You don't get time for second place here we're not Arsenal.
 
Winning the league is and always will be our target. Anything else is a dissapointment. This is United, this is what Moyes will have to handle
 
Success is trophies, that's the way it should be at this club.

What will I settle for in his first season? Top 3 finish and out of the group stages. 4th or not getting out of the group would be very poor.

To be honest I think I'll judge him more on his approach, at least for this season. The kind of players he goes for during the summer, the way he handles the players, the type of football we play, how he handles the pressure and how the squad reacts to him. If the signs there are good then I'm happy to give him time. If the signs there are bad I'll be a lot more critical at the start of his second season.
 
One of the CL places and a competitive run in Europe itself.

However this isn't to say that Moyes lacks the ability to match this season's return for example.
 
4th :lol:

Winning the league, and putting up a good fight in Europe would be a success. It's Manchester United for fecks sake. Not Arsenal.
 
can anyone actually picture Moyes lifting the premier league? Looks very strange.
 
Brwned said:
I think we've got the best team in the league and we're favourites for the title. Even if we weren't you can be sure every one of those players would say that not winning the title is seen as a failure. After a few years of no success that expectation will die down but every one of these players are title winners. Quite a few of them for the first time. Not a chance they'll settle for finishing top 3.

People seem to be talking about Chelsea "re-building" every season now as if it's going to be some huge occasion. They're just going to add a couple of players like everyone else.
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If they get Mourinho then he'll have a huge transfer budget. There is no way he would take that job without the promise of significant investment, I mean Ba is their best striker which I can't see him accepting. In general I agree with what you are saying, but this season could be a bit different.
 
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