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NO, no player is going to want to play for eddie howe players will think he's a joke.
They are queuing to play for Jose?
NO, no player is going to want to play for eddie howe players will think he's a joke.
NO, no player is going to want to play for eddie howe players will think he's a joke.
It would always be a big risk as you simply don't know how he'd make the step up.
What you do know though is that he would at least try to play the sort of football we want. Which just on its own makes comparisons with Moyes rather stupid as he was never this progressive.
Ah yeah, just as long as he tries its alright isn't it
Howe and Moyes are the same, too big of a step up to manager a big club. The only managers that can instantly manage a top club are top former players that instantly earn the respect of the players they are managing.
NO, no player is going to want to play for eddie howe players will think he's a joke.
Not even close. Also being a former top player doesn't matter that much. Howe would be an excellent appointment IMO.Ah yeah, just as long as he tries its alright isn't it
Howe and Moyes are the same, too big of a step up to manager a big club. The only managers that can instantly manage a top club without a proven record are top former players that instantly earn the respect of the players they are managing.
Didn't people say the same about David Moyes? "Chosen One" who got Everton competitive on a shoestring budget and stuffs...Been saying it for a while, I'd actually give credit to Woodward if he'd take the risk on this lad.
Average team with an average budget yet has done well with them while playing attacking football.
Realistically there's no chance of us appointing Howe unless he manages a bigger club than Bournemouth first, like Spurs or someone.
My point is that even if Moyes had done really well with a club like Spurs and actually earned his appointment here, his ideas on football would still have been ill-suited to United. The same wouldn't apply to Howe.
That's an important distinction given that many fans recognised that even someone with Mourinho's stature was a poor fit stylistically. By your logic all active managers bar a handful are the same as Moyes, which is silly. Some have qualities that others don't and Howe certainly has qualities that Moyes never did.
Didn't people say the same about David Moyes? "Chosen One" who got Everton competitive on a shoestring budget and stuffs...
One plays closer to Sam Allardyce, one plays closer to Pep
Lazy comparison solely because he's British. Their football style is completely different. Plus, Moyes took Everton from lower-midtable to upper-midtable, Howe took Bournemouth from League 2 to an entertaining mid table Premier League side. They aren't even remotely similar.Didn't people say the same about David Moyes? "Chosen One" who got Everton competitive on a shoestring budget and stuffs...
Howe can't organise a defense to save his life, which completely discounts him.
It's quite easy for mid table managers to attack endlessly because they have nothing to lose from doing it. They are safe from relegation and have no chance overcoming the financial gap. It happens all the time and most of these managers don't make the step up.
It is not normal and it is not quite easy. Mid-table teams take every chance they get to close down a game. They are usually in danger of going down towards the relegation zone and it's not like mid-table teams don't harbour the ambition of advancing higher up the table.If you want an up and coming manager take Poch who has shown competency in most areas of the game. It's quite easy for mid table managers to attack endlessly because they have nothing to lose from doing it. They are safe from relegation and have no chance overcoming the financial gap.
It can’t be underestimated how good a job this bloke has done at Bournemouth.
I mean, they’re still playing Simon fecking Francis at right back and win matches playing tidy football. The biggest question mark surrounding Howe is actually his transfer record. They win in spite of it.
I think Pochettino is a better manager. Better in the transfer window too. But yeah Howe is doing a great job at Bournemouth.Half their regular 11 was with them in league one, Francis, Cook, Daniels, Surman, Pugh (although he only plays cups).
They are very well coached. Don't see why they can't go for 7th if europa goes down that low.
Is the job Howe is doing at Bournemouth that much difference to Poch at Southampton? He had more top level experience from his playing days but I dunno Spurs took the punt and right club right time clearly.
Half their regular 11 was with them in league one, Francis, Cook, Daniels, Surman, Pugh (although he only plays cups).
They are very well coached. Don't see why they can't go for 7th if europa goes down that low.
Is the job Howe is doing at Bournemouth that much difference to Poch at Southampton? He had more top level experience from his playing days but I dunno Spurs took the punt and right club right time clearly.
Worth remembering if he did come into Man. United in near future he'd be joining a club who've reguarly been finishing 4th-7th since 2013 so little bit difference to Moyes coming in and following Fergie.
Think it's more Bournemouth have a settled way of playing so some of the signings do seem a bit overpriced when that player can't settle into the gameplan.
They signed Brad Smith from Liverpool for 8m, he played about 5 games and now I think he's on loan in Australia.
Rico is left back they signed from Levante for 18m and didn't make the squad today after playing midweek so seems like he's struggling to adapt (although Robertson was the same this time last year at Liverpool).
Ibe came for decent amount from Liverpool and just a squad player for them. Tyrone Mings also came for a fair bit and another who struggles to make their squad although he did get injuries.
Lerma and Brooks look good for them though and that's example of expensive signings that do lift the first 11 in quality.
AFAIK no manager has 100% record in the transfer market.
TrueEddie Howe isn't going to move north of the M4.
Eddie Howe isn't going to move north of the M4.
Brad Smith was 3m potentially rising to 6m (https://www.skysports.com/football/...ournemouth-sign-Liverpool-defender-brad-smith). Safe to say those clauses were never activated! It was a punt but with PL tv money 3m isn't that big a punt. They won't always come off and he certainly didn't and is now on loan to the MLS.
Rico was around 10m not 18m (https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44931851) and has only been here a few months. I like what I see in some aspects of his game but others need working on to adjust to the English game. One reason why he isn't in the side at the moment but we'll see on that front in time. Way to early to call it anything but a recent signing.
Ibe is the millstone that often gets referenced. His first season was so bad I don't even want to think about it. Last season he actually started to show something, really started growing into the team and was behind a lot of our good forward play that year. I was expecting him to start the season in the first 11 and was hoping he could continue to make progress but unfortunately for him in our last preseason friendly we totally smashed Marseille. Howe then gave the same 11 players that tore them to shreds the chance to start the season. That team included Brooks in Ibe's place and fair to say Ibe is well down the pecking order now as Brooks has been a revelation. I'm not sure where that leaves Ibe but I think his career with us may have a problem. However, as you say not everyone has 100% record.
Mings was signed as LB and did his cruciate within 15 mins of his debut. He has never played left back since and has instead been moved to a central role. Makes me think there is some lingering damage now stopping him from twisting and turning in the same way anymore. Anyway, since he came back from injury his spot in the team has been blocked by Ake who has pretty consistently been our best player since he signed so I can't see him breaking through until Ake moves on. From the little we've seen he actually looks pretty good, it's just a combination of bad injuries and bad luck that have stopped him having a proper chance. I don't think there are any AFCB fans out there unhappy that he is in the squad though. Definitely looks decent!
Cheers for correcting the fees, didn't realise we had a Bournemouth fan on here. I was also going to mention Lewis Cook, another who took a season to fully establish himself in the team. People were calling for him to get an England call up when he wasn't even starting for you guys, do you think he's good enough for that level now he is a regular starter?