after the places it's been it's really the only way to clean it.
So it's renewal time. Anybody else packing in their ST?
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after the places it's been it's really the only way to clean it.
I was expecting someone to say something like this.
So if it was costing you £1200 and you had to book time off work, rearrange family stuff, get to lunchtime kick offs after night shifts, or night games after 12 hr days, etc to watch us have one shot, and see two defensive subs when chasing the game, would it still seem attractive? Not the odd game, but 25+ per year?
Going through the late 70's and 80's it was clear we would not win the league, but at least under the doc, Ron and Fergie, we fought like hell to win every game.
Those times we wished we could add a key player to take us further.
The team's commitment was seldom in question.
Now the manager is responsible for that, and if it isn't there, the board tells him to sort it or else!
It feels like that isn't happening.
The fans have kept to our side of the deal, but the club seem to behalf-arsed, from top to bottom, and we are working hard , to pay them a fortune to short-change us in their effort.
What if they can't afford it?
They're most likely not located in Manchester/England?
or they dont live in manchester?
I for one wont be renewing, but that is down to me moving away from Manchester and back to London, the home of united fans. I came to the uni of manc specifically to get a season ticket for three years. I came at the worst time, Moyes, Van Gaal, Van Gaal. My brother did similar about 6 years ago and had Prem CL win, Prem, took a year out when we lost the league by one point, came back for the Prem title again. I hate my brother.
I for one wont be renewing, but that is down to me moving away from Manchester and back to London, the home of united fans. I came to the uni of manc specifically to get a season ticket for three years. I came at the worst time, Moyes, Van Gaal, Van Gaal. My brother did similar about 6 years ago and had Prem CL win, Prem, took a year out when we lost the league by one point, came back for the Prem title again. I hate my brother.
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It comes down to finance and time commitment. Owning a ST means you automatically buy home tickets to the FA Cup (even replays) / Champs League (if entered), if you want to apply for aways you also have to opt in for the League Cup.
If you don't have a season ticket then all this sounds fine, but just think if you have 2 tickets, then that can easily add the best part of £300 on top of what you already pay, and that's without progressing to the later rounds - and that's just to get into the ground, then you have extra fuel or the cost of booking time off work.
Not all of us live in Manchester either (insert joke here), my trip should only take over an 1 hour, most of the time it takes 2 and getting back can take longer. For a 3 o'clock game (if they even exist anymore), it means leaving at 11.30 and getting back at 7, midweek games won't be back before midnight.
You have to put up with the ever changing fixture schedule, perhaps needing to change your plans because Sky want to show the game at 8pm on a Monday instead of 3 on a Sat.
The after all that there is the football, taking in all of the above, the least you deserve it to be treated to an enjoyable / memorable game (even if that means losing), yet you stand there in disbelief as your manager brings on a attacking midfielder and plays him at RB when you are chasing the game.
It's very easy to say to someone you should renew your ticket, it's for life etc, but it's far trickier when you actually have the decision to make.
I don't disagree with any of that - my post was a reply to the comment "what I'd do for a season ticket" and I'd love to be in a position where it's a realistic option but unfortunately it's not and probably never will be one (both logistic and financial reasons for now). I can perfectly understand why you'd give up on your ST but I do think many of those will regret it in about five or ten years when you might be playing very enjoyable football again.
I don't know the ST procedure at United but the waiting list for a Liverpool one is insane - for instance many of the season tickets are on the name of someone who has died decades ago, it just passes from father to son, it's like a family heritage which is highly valued around there, and almost impossible to get a new one from what I heard at the stadium tours and in local pubs. If it's easy to get a new one after you've given up on your current one, I wouldn't hesitate one bit as a United fan but if it's not, I think I'd regret it rather sooner than later.
I have 3 tickets for my family, so that's a lot of money; I'm not loaded. I now also live 5 hours' drive away from OT these days (but grew up in the area). My daughter comes with me to most matches, she used to live in Manchester but has now moved jobs to London. So there are a number of factors that make this a less straightforward decision than it's been in the past. We've had these tickets for years (gold ST's). If Van Gaal stays I don't think I will renew. Or if no announcement is made before the renewal deadline, I will renew and then cancel if he stays. Before anyone says I'm a fair-weather fan, I've been going to OT since the 1960's and this period has been the worst. Worse than Moyes, for me. It was more fun when United were relegated ffs.
Support them? Always, totally, forever. Give 2 grand for this shite and hours on the M6 every match? No thanks. Not even for a free scarf.
Support them? Always, totally, forever. Give 2 grand for this shite and hours on the M6 every match? No thanks. Not even for a free scarf.
That's absolutely brilliant!
Get the feck out of OT. If you've had a season ticket for the last three years you're defo not welcome, pretty sure you're jinxed.
Agreed.
That's absolutely brilliant!
Get the feck out of OT. If you've had a season ticket for the last three years you're defo not welcome, pretty sure you're jinxed.
it's all so obvious now...
Imagine how annoyed you'd be if you had three years of having a United season ticket and you had the last three years.
I remember winning the title against Villa, the 8-2 etc etc with my uni mates. This lad has had an awful time.
What is the waiting list like at Old Trafford currently? More/ less than 5 years?
Used to be like that (we were over 10 years on waiting list) but it's like that any more now with us - they're trying to flog ST's every year at OT. basically if you want one you can have one.
Then they shouldn't renew.
So why would they renew a season ticket? That would be madness.
Again, I can't imagine they would renew their season ticket in these circumstances.
but you're right, he's jinxed us.
You could get one tomorrow I bet if you rang up.
That is hilarious.
I had a season ticket while I lived in London. There are trains and all sorts!
It's as long as it takes them to answer the phone.
We should have a whip round to get his brother back up here. Good times.
Yeah good shout, feck off @macheda14 , you're not wanted around here any more your brother was well sound.
I don't think theres a waiting list. You probably get one if you rang up
Huh?
The point is that they cant afford a ST, but if they could and they had one, they'd renew it.
Nice - err, not that I want one. Coupled with the ground being full every week, that sounds ideal for you lot.
I was diagnosed with cancer 2 days before a game in 2010 & was desperate to make sure I made it to the game. Likewise, I continued as much as possible to go over the following Year's worth of treatment and surgery. At points I questioned whether I'd manage to go again.
I got an all-clear last year and life goes on.
Things chip away at you though. From the Glazer takeover to the lack of a succession plan for SAF to Moyes appointment.
The Moyes Months weren't so bad as fans, there were some great atmospheres and a good feeling of camaraderie among fans. But I've lost faith that anyone in the club knows a good decision when they see one (unless it's a fried potato snack partner). LvG didn't seem such a bad punt, maybe it would have worked after SAF? Moyes was a man out of his depth, a classic example of the Peter Principle (I wonder if those employing him had heard of that? I wonder if SAF mentions that during his Harvard talks? Or in his book about management?) SAF will always be a legend. The greatest. I wish his books hadn't come out so soon after him leaving and I wish he'd talked Sir Bobby & the Board into a succession plan. He was once in a lifetime, but also a throwback to when there wasn't the same pressure on us. It's a different time now, football's different. It was different when we appointed Moyes to when we appointed SAF. If the club had wished to protect Moyes, they should have protected him more from himself/the media! He managed to make things worse with his smalltime pronouncements after games... Anyway ...
I'm sure I'll still be there next season, but I'm questioning the loyalty to be turning up so often, which is surprising me. No matter what I'll never stop being a fan or caring passionately. But I'm surprised the degree of doubt I have, and it's more focussed on the club's management as a whole than LvG as a big Dutch Albatross.
I got an all-clear last year and life goes on.
Things chip away at you though. From the Glazer takeover to the lack of a succession plan for SAF to Moyes appointment.
The Moyes Months weren't so bad as fans, there were some great atmospheres and a good feeling of camaraderie among fans. But I've lost faith that anyone in the club knows a good decision when they see one (unless it's a fried potato snack partner). LvG didn't seem such a bad punt, maybe it would have worked after SAF? Moyes was a man out of his depth, a classic example of the Peter Principle (I wonder if those employing him had heard of that? I wonder if SAF mentions that during his Harvard talks? Or in his book about management?) SAF will always be a legend. The greatest. I wish his books hadn't come out so soon after him leaving and I wish he'd talked Sir Bobby & the Board into a succession plan. He was once in a lifetime, but also a throwback to when there wasn't the same pressure on us. It's a different time now, football's different. It was different when we appointed Moyes to when we appointed SAF. If the club had wished to protect Moyes, they should have protected him more from himself/the media! He managed to make things worse with his smalltime pronouncements after games... Anyway ...
I'm sure I'll still be there next season, but I'm questioning the loyalty to be turning up so often, which is surprising me. No matter what I'll never stop being a fan or caring passionately. But I'm surprised the degree of doubt I have, and it's more focussed on the club's management as a whole than LvG as a big Dutch Albatross.
Waiting list in an urban myth these days judging by the spam I get from the club asking me to purchase a season ticket.
What he said, I haven't been to a game since mid-december and the boards decision to turn this season into a farce.
Not buying another ticket until Van Gaal and his dogs**t anti-football are gone.
I pretty much did the same but that was 5/6 years ago so I got lucky as well
My dad isn't renewing his season ticket this time round, he was already growing disillusioned with football I think but LVG has certainly confirmed it.
If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle.
Surely the question only makes sense in the context of actual circumstances - where you do live, how much money you do have, and the sort of football we are playing.
If I was a millionaire I'd buy a season ticket regardless of the shit football Vangle is serving up. If we were playing 2008 style football I'd possibly buy one given my actual financial circumstances. As it is neither of these are true, so I vote no, I wouldn't buy one.
It's a fairly simple hypothetical question, and no the response you have laid out is not the only one that makes sense.
Now just imagine us winning the league next season, and UCL the following one.
Fair play to those with season tickets travelling up from London etc. I live about 4 hours drive away in rural Wiltshire and go up about 5-6 times per season, and it completely takes it out of me. I certainly couldn't manage it every other weekend.
I will be renewing as I know the fecker will be gone in a year, were also shite now so ACS isn't much of burden anymore.
Should the 'wait until the last minute to decide' be changed to something about waiting to see if there is a managerial change?
Because the decision wouldn't be based on just this season. For the past 3 years the board have repeatedly shown gross incompetence, and absolutely no concern at all at trying to fix the situation until it's far too late.
Even with van Gaal gone, that isn't going to change.
I can see what it's trying to ask, but it's too simplistic to make sense.
Where is the cut-off for if somebody is rich / near to Manchester enough to be making their decision based on the quality of football?
In reality everybody here has chosen whether to get a season ticket based on a range of factors, and it means nothing for somebody that has no intention of getting a season ticket to claim that they "would renew if they had one".
You'll either get one or you won't, and whether you already have one is not really relevant. The poll would make more sense just saying "will you be getting a season ticket next season?".