Was painfully average in the Euros. Kagawa's signing is going to limit the number of his starts in important games unless Nani gets sold.
Smashley Young
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Yep, he's a confidence player just like Nani was for his first three years (arguably still today). If Young can get us 10 goals and 10 assists as a rotational winger next year, that would be excellent.
I thought he was known for his set-pieces at Villa, but he doesn't really seem to be taking them when playing for us.
He's always been an inconsistent 1 in 4 or 5 game player. You just have to hope that next season the 20-25% when he plays very well come in important games.
As both our wingers in England had to play as wingbacks I don't blame him one bit for Englands performances. Milner either.
He had a pretty shocking tournament. Disappointed.
I have been a bit disappointed in his performances for us in his first season and only saw flashes of him at Villa. He always looks uncomfortable on the wing, where he approaches the full back and almost invariably turns back and passes back. His stats have been a surprise and show he is better than first impressions. Probably unfair to judge on his first season and playing for a mediocre England side where he was by no means the only one who failed to turn up. I suspect you might be right that he'll be better next season but the same end result would do me. It'd just be nice to see him play well.
Regarding his Euro showing, look at the other wide men; Downing, Milner and Walcott - all poor whether they played or not (Downing). Walcott had the advantage of fresh legs vs Sweden and again vs Italy. Of those, Milner was the best of a bad bunch, if only for his defensive work.
Terrible all tournament, misplaced passes constantly, poor crosses, don't think he beat his man once
No, I never, ever thought he'd be shit, and I've never said he's shit/rubbish.
What I was expecting was a 26 year old, Premiership proven winger who had at that stage shown most of what he is made of, and was never going to be as good as Nani or Valencia are (who was 23 when we signed him), therefore I expected him to be a good option as a 3rd choice winger. That's exactly what he has been.
The problem was the price, we completely overpaid, but that's what happens with English players.
I am not yet sold on Ashley Young. It's not that I don't think we should have signed him, I'm not really sure either way. He's had some great moments, and games, but "in general" he's been fairly pedestrian. But, it's important to keep in mind that this was his first season at the club. And the fact that he probably wasn't signed to be a first team regular, at least not straight away - barring injuries. I don't think he'll ever be good enough to make the left wing spot his own, though.
And I agree that he was too expensive, but... that is the reality of today.
And I agree that he was too expensive, but... that is the reality of today.
I imagine it could spell the end for Evra and De Gea too.
It was his first season, but who knows, maybe he'll experience a second season syndrome.
In my humble opinion, he's overrated and I don't like him as a footballer.
More or less sums him up for me.
He's not International level, he's a decent Premiership player, but who else do England realistically have?
How many of any of the England players are international class anyway?
Whether or not he is "international class" is irrelevant. He is definitely the best left winger England have. Johnson barely plays and if he did for England he would expose Cole's frailties as a left back who tucks in too much.
Exactly my point...
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I always wonder would Young be an England regular if he was still an Aston Villa player. Completely out of his depth at international level, that's not to say for a fair few players in that England shirt as well
If I was Robbie Brady I'd be licking my lips, that left wing spot is there for the taking if he can step up this season.
Ashley Cole must be fecking happy (yeah, I know he's not) that Young's smashing it to the bar overshadowed his terrible, gay, gentle attempt at kicking the football.
fecking Ashley Cole. Why he didn't miss the penalty instead in Munich 
I have nothing against Young, he's a valuable squad player. However if we sell Nani and keep him I'll shove cyanide tablets up my ass
Yeah, you really got nothing against him, then.
Under United, Young has seemingly dipped backward in his progress. Whether it's Fergie's doing, Young rarely ever has a direct go at defenders these days (he used to all the time) and he never takes freekicks which was his bread and butter with Villa.
I hope Fergie isn't trying to force him into an efficiency-type player. I fear Rooney has lost his X-Factor since Fergie messed about with him out wide then as a pure striker and now just wants goals from him.
I hope Fergie isn't trying to force him into an efficiency-type player. I fear Rooney has lost his X-Factor since Fergie messed about with him out wide then as a pure striker and now just wants goals from him.
Yeah, Nani is shit.
Who's Robbie Brady?
Our messiah, or something.
Ashley Young is an intelligent footballer. He doesnt just sprint down the wing and cross the ball hopefully; he varies his play, cuts inside, links well, and make unusual passes that other players wouldnt spot. I rate him for Man Utd and think he's had a decent season.
He's a bit lightweight and thats frustrating as he goes down way too easily, AND he has been poor for England at the Euro's (he was great in the pre-tournament games tho)
Dont give up on him just yet. He's no Nani or Valencia, but he's a good solid option to them and does put some pressure on which is always good
He's a bit lightweight and thats frustrating as he goes down way too easily, AND he has been poor for England at the Euro's (he was great in the pre-tournament games tho)
Dont give up on him just yet. He's no Nani or Valencia, but he's a good solid option to them and does put some pressure on which is always good
Dunno about that, he's pretty predictable as a footballer for the most part. He just cannot beat his man like Valencia and especially Nani can, that's his biggest fault as a winger.
He can beat his man, it's just that he has this stupid habit to always check back and try and twist the defender again after he does it or goes past his man the first time. It's quite annoying
Many of you lot are chatting some shit here.
Ashley Young is an excellent player.
Ashley Young is an excellent player.
Everybody is slating him in England, even Man Utd fans. We should get behind him, if we don't who will ?
Nani and Valencia are excellent players. Young is a good player.
It's not a case of completely slating him as a player, it's just admitting he was absolutely woeful for them at the tournament. We have a right to say that considering it's true.
That's inevitable. He missed a pen but unlike Cole he was poor in the match and the fault, for the people at home, is laid on the attackers. There will be boos come the start of the season. Best thing for him is to have a good pre-season and be fresh. Get a good rest now. England did as well as they could really.
You can't deny he had a shocking euros though.