Should the captaincy be removed from Bruno?

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if someone could please add a poll it would be great i can't work out how!

i know Bruno causes a lot of divide on the forum but is it time to remove the captaincy from him?

I don't like his mentality, if things aren't going well, I wouldn't say he leads, he starts whining and it seems to be everyone else's fault, he doesn't dig in and get everyone else to do the same. He's a polar opposite to Roy Keane

Harsh but I'd say he epitomises the current weak mentality that plagues this squad. He's not the only one the vast majority are mentally weak, but as captain it's part of his role to lead by example and drag us through games

The only thing I would say is at least the guy is always available, the other problem is there isn't what I'd call a stand out candidate who's a strong leader to replace him
 
Yes but who do you give it to you? It’s pathetic we can’t find a leader in this squad of imbeciles.
 
The captaincy issue aside, from a manager's perspective, he's simply not a player you can't trust. He's too erratic, inconsistent, and for the most part, when things aren't going well, his body language and overall demeanour, is appalling.
 
Are we not better off playing down the captaincy roll, it creates more issues than it resolves, just give it to the most senior player then encourage more individual communication and leadership, or Departmentalize the role nominate a defender to be the vocal organiser at the back and an attacking player to organise the attack particularly on set pieces.
 
UnofficialDevil said:
He isn't captain material, and that's for sure. But, who is? Cant think of anybody in our current squad.
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If we don't have one single player who can be named captain then we have a serious problem. It's troubling that our current squad does not have a single soul that can lead this team. It's downright scary.
 
Might be an unpopular opinion, but who wears the armband is the least of our concerns right now. Even if Bruno might not be the right person to be captain, there is no need to change it and add more drama and headlines into the mix.

If anything needs changing, deal with it in the summer.
 
There is no alternative option, but you can't be sent off three times in as many months in very innocuous circumstances and expect to continue, it's not good enough.
 
Plant0x84 said:
Harry Maguire. Seriously.
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If only we’ve had an opportunity to know beforehand how the potential captaincy would affect his performances…

Anyway, Maguire clearly isn’t a starter in Amorim’s eyes when everyone’s fit so we’d still need to choose someone else for when he doesn’t play. Not sure if De Ligt’s been here long enough for captaincy but he’s the only natural born leader we have in the squad.
 
Scarlett Dracarys said:
If we don't have one single player who can be named captain then we have a serious problem. It's troubling that our current squad does not have a single soul that can lead this team. It's downright scary.
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Yep, scary but true. A John O Shea would be an automatic first choice for captain in this squad and that says a lot.
 
I think Martinez has the passion and drive, but with his own honking form recently it'd be a bad move. If he recaptured what he was like towards the end of that first season where he dragged the defence along then he'd probably be the best candidate.
 
last year we were all for Martinez. I understand the drop off but still think he has a place and would make a good leader with the right men beside him
 
Oh good, another one of these threads.

soapythecat said:
Bruno shouldn’t be starting, let alone captain.
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I can kind of understand people not thinking Bruno is good enough to lead us to titles, given the state of the team. It's natural, I guess, to question every part of the team when things are this bad.

But come on. This guy has been by far our best player for years. He tries his best every game too. He's not moody, he tries to inspire everyone around him but they just aren't up to his standard. Yet time and again he's hammered by our own fans.

I can't help wonder if some are letting the constant negativity and snide remarks about Bruno from the scouse dominated media influence their opinions. Given that this criticism of him(on here) started when we were much better and actually comfortably in the top 4, I can't think of another explanation.

If a standout candidate for captain starts to show himself then fine, Bruno doesn't have to be captain. Until that time, maybe we should perhaps show the guy some support? A radical suggestion, I know.
 
Short answer is no, as we don’t have anyone else to give it to. Amorim wouldn’t anyway at this point as it solves nothing, we have far bigger problems as armband or not it seems no one wants to stand up to be counted.

Maguire not fit to be captain even if he was playing after those bizarre comments. This is exactly the problem, we have a squad of unaccountable players who refuse to hold their hand up, see a result for what it is and blinkered in their own excuses.
 
Only person in the squad who's remotely captain material is De Ligt, but he's been here 5 minutes and also isn't a guaranteed starter.
 
Kaos said:
Only person in the squad who's remotely captain material is De Ligt, but he's been here 5 minutes and also isn't a guaranteed starter.
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Of course he is. Who would you start ahead of him?
 
He screams of everything that is wrong with the club right now. For all the woes we have, and we have a lot. You can't have your captain getting sent off three times already by December. He's not even that good anymore, We could excuse his behaviour in the past, because he was great for a season or two. But that was a long time ago now. He's petulant child during a game. Doesn't inspire his team, and he is disliked by rival fans for his antics on the pitch now instead of his quality. Adios for me.
 
No, but only because there's so much drama around the club right now we don't need to add to it.

He was a good signing, & has given us a lot in his time here, but he's fast becoming past it... he's not a talisman that's going to lead a revival from where we are right now, but he's not our biggest problem and his exit from the team needs to be managed and not add to the chaos.
 
No point in stripping the captaincy now, it'll just be more unneeded drama for the club which we don't need.

Let him keep the captaincy but needs to be moved on at the end of the season. There's a lot that need to be moved on.
 
Said it in the matchday thread but he talks the talk off the pitch but on the pitch he’s Michael Scott from the fire safety episode
 
Bojan11 said:
Of course he is. Who would you start ahead of him?
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In the current squad only Maguire has a shot perhaps, but De Ligt hasn't exactly looked entirely comfortable in a back 3, hence why I wouldn't label him a guaranteed shoe-in for the side. Going forward there's also no guarantee he'll be in Amorim's plans.
 
There is no point in removing it now, we don't have an actual leader in the club, maybe Cas but his legs are gone, we can't hand it to De Ligt and repeat the same mistake that was done with Maguire when he was handed the captaincy in his first season.

I would love it if Bruno is no longer the captain but there is no point really
 
harms said:
If only we’ve had an opportunity to know beforehand how the potential captaincy would affect his performances…

Anyway, Maguire clearly isn’t a starter in Amorim’s eyes when everyone’s fit so we’d still need to choose someone else for when he doesn’t play. Not sure if De Ligt’s been here long enough for captaincy but he’s the only natural born leader we have in the squad.
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Good shout, I genuinely forgot about him! :o
 
United Hobbit said:
if someone could please add a poll it would be great i can't work out how!

i know Bruno causes a lot of divide on the forum but is it time to remove the captaincy from him?

I don't like his mentality, if things aren't going well, I wouldn't say he leads, he starts whining and it seems to be everyone else's fault, he doesn't dig in and get everyone else to do the same. He's a polar opposite to Roy Keane

Harsh but I'd say he epitomises the current weak mentality that plagues this squad. He's not the only one the vast majority are mentally weak, but as captain it's part of his role to lead by example and drag us through games

The only thing I would say is at least the guy is always available, the other problem is there isn't what I'd call a stand out candidate who's a strong leader to replace him
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Not only captaincy but also as a starter he should be dropped. We played better with 10 men yesterday and the last time he got sent off.
 
There’s no point in switching captaincy again as it has minimal impact but on a side note, I’m sick of people saying Bruno gives his all every game. Giving your all means putting your body on the line, not bottling every 50-50 challenge as your scared of physical contact. He’s a coward.
 
U need 2-3 leaders in United, I mean real men. Roy Keane, Bryan Robson, Steve Bruce, Gary Pallister, Rio, Vidic and other. These are captain material who goes about doing what they need to do and expect everyone to put in a shift. There is nobody in this team except Maguire maybe De Ligt. If we need a cultural reset, then we need get buy 2-3 of such players. Let's start with a commanding goalkeeper, I don't rate Onana. One combative CM with a strong personality to partner Ugarte. Maguire and De Ligt as CB.
 
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