It depends how ready and capable Iqbal and possibly Mejbri are. I dont see us signing another midfielder for a while when we've spent a lot already and still need a striker.
Should Fred be offered a new contract?
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That is absolute guff. So any player in the Championship starts for the Brazil national team?
I don’t give two shits about the Brazil national team. In terms of finding an attacking midfielder who knows the basics of football better than Fred, yeah, I’d gamble on a player in the Championship. Fred is bad.
I'm not asking you to give two shits about the Brazil national. I don't either. I'm highlighting to you the nonsense of suggesting that any player in the Championship is at the same level as him.
Btw Fred is not an 'attacking midfielder' and I don't think I'm being too pedantic in saying that.
What would you call him, sort of an 8, occasionally a 6, but mostly just running around like a dog after a tennis ball?
Hannibal can do better what Fred is doing this season. Hannibal has the heart and stamina to press like Fred and still useful on the ball.
I kinda have to fall on the no side. Hes not shit, but hes inconsistent as feck. And we have far too many of those around. While not deadwood, as the old saying goes, too many inconsistencies in performances, IMO.
Unless we are signing 4 centre midfielders or Zidane and savage are turning into scholes and butt over night unfortunately we have to give him a contract.
Behind casemiro Bruno and eriksen. He's our next best. His work rate is unreal but times are that hard we need him.
Behind casemiro Bruno and eriksen. He's our next best. His work rate is unreal but times are that hard we need him.
Whenever Fred touches the ball, the God flips a coin.
Whenever Fred's contract comes to an end, the board flips the plan.
Whenever Fred's contract comes to an end, the board flips the plan.
Whenever Fred touches the ball, the God flips a coin.
Whenever Fred's contract comes to an end, the board flips the plan.
When Fred gets the ball no one knows what he is going to do. When Fred gets the ball Fred doesn't know what he is going to do
We should probably come to terms with Fred returning to the club as a World Cup winner.
Protect the value FC
he's perfectly fine as a squad player.
Had a shot on target last night.
Did enough for a new 4 year deal.
Did enough for a new 4 year deal.
£40 million waste of money, but no contract he walks away we get nothing. Id over him a 2 year deal and sell at the first oppurtunity,
This, he’s here, he’s not as bad as many make out. Use him for specific tasks or coming off the bench and he’s perfectly fine. It’s not like they’ll be paying him 250k a week.
Feck think back to the performance against Spurs. He chipped in with goals last season as well. Wasn’t so long ago he could have been our player of the year.
Absolutely no problem with giving him another contract especially if it’s just a 3 year job with a +1 it would be stupid not to give him a contract. If Hannibal and whomever else are better then they’ll take the spot. ETH doesn’t seem the type to suffer fools or hold on to players for sentimental value.
We tried this a few times it doesn’t work out because why would he sign for us when he can go on a free and get massive wages ?
he plays a lot higher for brazil than he does at united. i don't think we've used him properly tbh.
Woody, is this you?
It wouldn't be United's style to willingly let a players contract run down rather than it being driven by the player. They would have to be daft like Bailly though to be convinced to sign a new contract when they know they are a fringe player and not fancied by the manager.
We found Woody's caf account
he has one great performance in 7/8 games then the rest he reminds of us why we need new midfielders. Getting a contract at United is EASY nowadays
Thankfully in his time here he’s had more than one great performance, which is why he was mentioned as a POTY candidate.
Yes for me. Some people in this thread clearly have no concept of a squad.
My thoughts exactly.
He's definitely a good squad option to have.
If he wins the World Cup will he get to dine out on it with our fans for years like Pogba?
No we have players who can squad fill. Him and VDB should be replaced with 2 other CMs one a starter and one a promising young player to fill the squad gap
This excuse is being thrown away for every shit player we have. There was a game in EL where he was deployed higher up the pitch and he looked clueless.
To me this looks like a clear case of what behavioral scientist Amy Edmondson would describe as psychological safety. In the national team Fred is able to be himself.
He feels valued, they joke around, their leaders Thiago Silva, Neymar, Alisson, Marquinhos all look like decent people. A tid diva Ney and Silva but overall generous and including. Language helps as well of course.
Now, you could go on and call him soft but he is far from the first case of a player or employee who performs wonders when the setting is right and underwhelms in another setting.
He feels valued, they joke around, their leaders Thiago Silva, Neymar, Alisson, Marquinhos all look like decent people. A tid diva Ney and Silva but overall generous and including. Language helps as well of course.
Now, you could go on and call him soft but he is far from the first case of a player or employee who performs wonders when the setting is right and underwhelms in another setting.
feck me we must have been poor that season.
I don't know what's sadder.
1. We will offer him a new contract
2. It's the right thing to do because of our current quality level
1. We will offer him a new contract
2. It's the right thing to do because of our current quality level
I'm pretty much always middle of the road on most issues, and I guess I am with this as well.
Fred's nothing special, but is a perfectly decent PL standard midfielder if used correctly. Same as the likes of Liverpool and City have got good performances out of some decent, but not special, players.
So if ETH feels he can use him in his system and get some good performances, then I'm happy enough to see him kept and save one less position we need to add in the summer. If, however, ETH feels there's better options available - which I'm sure there are - then I'll be happy enough to see another upgrade in the midfield.
It all depends on what, and how big of a, role ETH sees him playing, and if Fred is happy to stay with that should it be quite a limited, squad player role. Or if he'd prefer to look to be a starter elsewhere. Similar decisions to, say, keeping Lindelof / Maguire as 3rd / 4th choice CB's.
Fred's nothing special, but is a perfectly decent PL standard midfielder if used correctly. Same as the likes of Liverpool and City have got good performances out of some decent, but not special, players.
So if ETH feels he can use him in his system and get some good performances, then I'm happy enough to see him kept and save one less position we need to add in the summer. If, however, ETH feels there's better options available - which I'm sure there are - then I'll be happy enough to see another upgrade in the midfield.
It all depends on what, and how big of a, role ETH sees him playing, and if Fred is happy to stay with that should it be quite a limited, squad player role. Or if he'd prefer to look to be a starter elsewhere. Similar decisions to, say, keeping Lindelof / Maguire as 3rd / 4th choice CB's.
by who?
I'd agree about moving VDB on unless ETH can bring something out of him. Fred is an excellent player and fully deserving of his place in the squad in my opinion.
Hes behind McTominay in the current pecking order… one of the 2 need replacing in my opinion
So Jamie Jackson was completely wrong a month ago saying he would be released. I'm shocked.
Makes sense best case scenario he leaves for a fee in the summer. Worst case he stays around for an extra year and is an option in midfield for Cup games or certain fixtures when an extra pair of legs are needed in midfield.
This is OK by me so far as Fred doesn't get any more than this. We should bring in a long term central midfielder (could also be a Zidane or Mainoo) soon to replace Eriksen in the first 11. That would lead to Fred leaving.